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NHS Banding - Pay steps

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msagile2605 · 07/03/2025 23:39

I currently work for the NHS on XN06. Prior to this, I worked in another trust for one year at Band 6. When checking my ESR, I noticed that my pay step/increment is listed as "Pay Step 1 of 9."

Given that I have already completed one year at B6 in my previous trust, I expected my pay step to be "Pay Step 2 of 9." Could you please help me understand why my ESR reflects Pay Step 1 of 9 and whether my previous experience should be taken into account for my pay progression?

I would appreciate your guidance on this matter.

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Imgoingoutforawhile · 07/03/2025 23:47

When you change jobs you don’t necessarily start at the same pay step you were on.
if it’s a totally different role then you are starting the band 6 again essentially.
starting on a higher pay step is something you would have needed to negotiate before starting I believe

DarkForces · 07/03/2025 23:50

Check with HR, but I'd assume you need to complete another year (so 2 total at band 6) before you moved up a level. Moving up a band restarts the clock. So currently you are at the first pay point in band 6, then after 2 years at this band you'll move up level 2 of band 6.

TartanMammy · 07/03/2025 23:52

If you're moving to a different health board you'll usually always start on the first increment, unless you negotiated otherwise in your contract at the outset. This is usually very clear on the job advert for nhs posts.

Waitingwaitingwaiting33 · 07/03/2025 23:56

I had similar and I just rung HR, and they checked with my previous employer and changed it

msagile2605 · 07/03/2025 23:57

Imgoingoutforawhile · 07/03/2025 23:47

When you change jobs you don’t necessarily start at the same pay step you were on.
if it’s a totally different role then you are starting the band 6 again essentially.
starting on a higher pay step is something you would have needed to negotiate before starting I believe

Right - it is the same role, non clinical, but it is the same role just with a different title

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msagile2605 · 08/03/2025 00:00

Waitingwaitingwaiting33 · 07/03/2025 23:56

I had similar and I just rung HR, and they checked with my previous employer and changed it

That is good to know. What was your situation - did they put you on the lowest starting point on your band? On your previous trust, how many years had you worked on that band?

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msagile2605 · 08/03/2025 00:04

TartanMammy · 07/03/2025 23:52

If you're moving to a different health board you'll usually always start on the first increment, unless you negotiated otherwise in your contract at the outset. This is usually very clear on the job advert for nhs posts.

Oh ok i wouldnt have thought so since they do HR to HR transfers - I can't remember the terminology, but Trusts can check previous trusts to see what band you were in - oh well😢Thanks for replying

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msagile2605 · 08/03/2025 00:06

Waitingwaitingwaiting33 · 07/03/2025 23:56

I had similar and I just rung HR, and they checked with my previous employer and changed it

OK, I will do that next week, especially since my pension statement was been transferred (TRS)

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Waitingwaitingwaiting33 · 08/03/2025 00:07

msagile2605 · 08/03/2025 00:00

That is good to know. What was your situation - did they put you on the lowest starting point on your band? On your previous trust, how many years had you worked on that band?

I was a band 7 at my midpoint (had been a 7 for just over 2 years). When I started in the new health board I was put back as the lowest banding for a 7.

HR were very helpful and just needed to look at my exit form from my previous role.

User1786 · 08/03/2025 00:09

They should have stated in your offer letter what your starting pay would be. At that point you could have asked to be stated higher, they usually will but not without you asking.

msagile2605 · 08/03/2025 00:14

DarkForces · 07/03/2025 23:50

Check with HR, but I'd assume you need to complete another year (so 2 total at band 6) before you moved up a level. Moving up a band restarts the clock. So currently you are at the first pay point in band 6, then after 2 years at this band you'll move up level 2 of band 6.

Edited

Oh Ok i thought so - since I have to be on spine one for two years {0-2} then move up to the next spine 2-3, chances are as this is my second year on B6, once I complete my year in this role, I will be moved up the spine to spines 2-5.

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msagile2605 · 08/03/2025 00:17

Waitingwaitingwaiting33 · 08/03/2025 00:07

I was a band 7 at my midpoint (had been a 7 for just over 2 years). When I started in the new health board I was put back as the lowest banding for a 7.

HR were very helpful and just needed to look at my exit form from my previous role.

Thank you - that is good to know. I will check with HR

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msagile2605 · 08/03/2025 00:19

User1786 · 08/03/2025 00:09

They should have stated in your offer letter what your starting pay would be. At that point you could have asked to be stated higher, they usually will but not without you asking.

Maybe they did only just noticed today

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movinghouse12 · 08/03/2025 07:34

I've worked at lots of NHS organisations in England and all of them would start you on the right point if they knew. It's probably a lack of communication with HR. Orgs nearly always (everywhere I have been) budget for jobs at midpoint, so even if you're a little bit higher than the bottom, it'll still be under budget for them.

TwinklyRoseTurtle · 08/03/2025 07:38

Imgoingoutforawhile · 07/03/2025 23:47

When you change jobs you don’t necessarily start at the same pay step you were on.
if it’s a totally different role then you are starting the band 6 again essentially.
starting on a higher pay step is something you would have needed to negotiate before starting I believe

This is incorrect if you have applied for a job of the same band- agree with others and contact HR and they will sort out for you as there is now only 5 years from bottom band 6 to top, so after another year you should move to mid point x

DarkForces · 08/03/2025 11:09

msagile2605 · 08/03/2025 00:14

Oh Ok i thought so - since I have to be on spine one for two years {0-2} then move up to the next spine 2-3, chances are as this is my second year on B6, once I complete my year in this role, I will be moved up the spine to spines 2-5.

Edited

That's what I'd expect. Someone I manage has just changed roles completely and I'm still expecting to award them the increment they're due. It is an internal transfer though

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