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Does my 5 year old need to see a Dr ASAP?

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Dabrat21 · 07/03/2025 20:09

Hi all,

I need some advice please on what I should do with my DD. Who has ‘difficulty’ breathing ‘episodes’.

my DD is 5. She had been in nursery since she was about 17 months old. Since starting nursery she had cough after cough, illness after illness. She has had really bad chest infections and also had bronchitis when she was about 3, which she had an X-ray for but did not have to be admitted to hospital. I was very worried at the time.

our GP then suggested she have an inhaler - a blue one, and if her coughs got really bad to try a few pumps to see if this helped. We use the blue inhaler for about 10 months but honestly I didn’t feel it made a difference. When she would have coughs sometimes it would be with a temperature, sometimes it wouldn’t. Coughing was worse at night and she would vomit from coughing so much.

since starting school, her coughs have got so much better. The first year she only had about 6-8 coughs/infections. Compared to previously a cough every few weeks. Then towards the end of term, she started doing this thing where she takes a deep breath, and look like she’s catching her breathe, but not necessarily after exercise. This could happen when she was just sitting down watching tv. I filmed her doing this and showed the dr, who prescribed a brown inhaler to be taken once in the morning and once at night ongoing. At this time my DD was 4 and the Dr said that she was too young for an asthma test to confirm. I read up about asthma (as no one in my family has it) and I decided to cut out nuts, she would often eat these whole as a snack. Since cutting them out, the breathing ‘episodes’ stopped. So we cut out using the brown inhaler and I had hoped she had grown out of it.

However this past week, the last three days she has complained to her teacher that she is finding it difficult to breathe but doesn’t look like she is struggling, no signs of wheezing or going red etc. but the teacher has of course given her the blue inhaler. I’ve contacted the doctor for an appointment but could only get one on the 20th March.

tonight the same thing has happened. Whilst she was going up for her bath, she wasn’t running or anything like that. She said her chest hurts and feels like ‘someone is stabbing her heart’ and that it feels tight. I gave her the inhaler and I believe it helped but only after administering it twice.

she hasn’t had any nuts and there’s nothing I can think that might have caused this to flare up.

she is otherwise well but has a dairy intolerance. Her chest bone does ‘indent’ a bit, I would say a little more than ‘normal’ but many doctors have seen this and never said it look abnormal.

what I’m asking here, is if I should get her to a doctor/a&e or a walk in centre over the weekend? I’m worried it’s getting worse and could lead to a full on asthma attack.

Does anyone have children with asthma? Does this sound like that? Any advice would be great appreciated.

thanks

OP posts:
user1471538275 · 07/03/2025 20:17

You've stopped the brown preventer inhaler and now she is having episodes again.

When did you do this? Did you speak to the Dr about it or ask about allergy testing?

It seems likely she is needing more 'reliever' blue inhaler because you have stopped her preventer.

Are you concerned about how she is breathing right now? Or is it a general concern about the increased episodes?

I would suggest contacting 111 to have an assessment.

Are you using a spacer for all inhalers? Have you replaced it recently?

Dabrat21 · 07/03/2025 20:20

We stopped the brown inhaler after no episodes - she was off the brown one for about 6 months and all seemed fine. Yes we use a spacer.

OP posts:
Octavia64 · 07/03/2025 20:20

I have asthma.

It's quite common to get intercostal muscle pain in your chest if you are having an asthma attack.

Do you have a way of measuring her lung capacity?

If I'm getting chest pain my lung capacity is generally right down and I need steroids.

Did you stop the brown inhaler on medical advice?

user1471538275 · 07/03/2025 20:22

The reason she wasn't having episodes is because she was using the preventer inhaler.

If you stop it , the episodes will start again.

Octavia64 · 07/03/2025 20:24

Dabrat21 · 07/03/2025 20:20

We stopped the brown inhaler after no episodes - she was off the brown one for about 6 months and all seemed fine. Yes we use a spacer.

Ok so the point of the brown one is to prevent attacks.

So if you stop it, it'll take a while for the protective effect to go and then she'll start having attacks again.

Yes, she needs to see a doctor.

Any kind of chest pain is an automatic see a doctor.

The brown inhaler is something she needs to keep taking daily until you are told to stop as otherwise the asthma will be uncontrolled which is not good.

EdnaTheWitch · 07/03/2025 20:24

Dabrat21 · 07/03/2025 20:20

We stopped the brown inhaler after no episodes - she was off the brown one for about 6 months and all seemed fine. Yes we use a spacer.

No episodes, presumably because using the preventative inhaler?
Go back to using it regularly, as a preventative medicine, and see what happens.

Dabrat21 · 07/03/2025 20:26

We stopped using the brown inhaler as it was getting difficult for her to take it, she was getting very upset etc. I then thought, mistakenly that she may have grown out of it. She had around 6 months of taking nothing, without any coughs and no ‘breathing episodes’. And now it has suddenly started up again this week. I know now I have made a mistake by stopping the brown inhaler. I did not inform the doctor that I stopped this.

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verycloakanddaggers · 07/03/2025 20:27

Dabrat21 · 07/03/2025 20:20

We stopped the brown inhaler after no episodes - she was off the brown one for about 6 months and all seemed fine. Yes we use a spacer.

On the advice of a doctor?

I would get an urgent GP appointment for any breathing difficulty. Ask them if the brown inhaler should be restarted.

Never mess about with asthma.

verycloakanddaggers · 07/03/2025 20:28

Dabrat21 · 07/03/2025 20:26

We stopped using the brown inhaler as it was getting difficult for her to take it, she was getting very upset etc. I then thought, mistakenly that she may have grown out of it. She had around 6 months of taking nothing, without any coughs and no ‘breathing episodes’. And now it has suddenly started up again this week. I know now I have made a mistake by stopping the brown inhaler. I did not inform the doctor that I stopped this.

Given this update get an urgent appointment.

Dabrat21 · 07/03/2025 20:29

Urgent appointment at the doctor or a&e? I have given her the brown inhaler tonight. We have plenty in the house.

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Devonshiregal · 07/03/2025 20:33

You need to describe the breath intake thing she’s doing better. Is it once every few minutes? Is it every breath? Is she aware of it? And does she have a cough or wheeze? If she has chest pain take her yes.

Shallysally · 07/03/2025 20:33

How is she this evening OP? If she is still complaining of chest pain and struggling to breathe you need to seek medical advice. Don’t wait for 111, get her to an and e.

If she is struggling, keep her as still as possible so she isn’t using energy on anything other than breathing.

Octavia64 · 07/03/2025 20:34

The brown inhaler is a long acting agent which opens up airways. It's good to restart it but it won't help in the current situation.

Ok, so she's complained of chest pain and you've given the blue twice. The blue is a short acting drug which takes about 15 mins to work and then is good for a few hours.

Is her chest still hurting/does she have any difficulty breathing/can you hear her wheezing? If so, then pack a bag and head to a and e.

If it's settled and the pain is gone and she's ok breathing then watch and wait, keep and eye on her.

iliketobereasonable · 07/03/2025 20:34

I’d go to an out of hours doc tomorrow. She might need steroids to get it back under control.

MammTorr · 07/03/2025 20:37

You need to take her to A&E really because you don't mess about with asthma. You need to be honest and tell them that for whatever reason you decided to stop her preventer inhaler so she's not had that for however long it's been since you decided it was pointless.

You will be referred to your health visitor because of her age and you might be referred to social services because you have caused this essentially and it is a safeguarding issue.

I'm a dr and I would be concerned that you just randomly decided she was 'cured' as an A&E dr I would want to see her because the blue inhaler hasn't worked tonight.

Studyunder · 07/03/2025 20:38

111 NOW. You’ll get the correct advice sooner and if they advice A&E (which is likely) they will tell them to expect you.

PeanutCat1 · 07/03/2025 20:38

I think she needs to be taking the brown inhaler as this is for prevention so that might be why the episodes have come back. It does sound like she has asthma to me. My sister used to complain of having stabbing heart pains when she was little and she has since been diagnosed with asthma, she actually had a scary incident where she was hospitalised for a week last year because her asthma was unmanaged. Coincidentally her chest is also slightly sunken in but I'm not sure if that means anything really.

I would call 111 or see if you can go to a walk in centre if you can.

I would be using the brown inhaler though and make sure you take the doctors advice as if its Asthma it's not something to mess around with.

Hope she feels abit better soon and you get to the bottom of it Flowers

PeanutCat1 · 07/03/2025 20:39

Sorry if she is complaining of chest pain and struggling to breathe now she needs to go to A&E

PonkyPonky · 07/03/2025 20:40

You need to be under an asthma nurse, not a GP. GP’s are awesome but they can’t be experts in everything. When we got put under the asthma nurse for my DS when he was 2, I couldn’t believe how knowledgable she was. We get regular appointments and can easily contact her if I feel something isn’t working or I need advice. They can’t really do the official asthma tests until age 5/6 but our asthma nurse said that if they suspect it before that then they treat it as if it is confirmed. Blue and brown inhalers aren’t the only options and a specialist will know what else to try for your daughter if you don’t think those are doing the job.

Dabrat21 · 07/03/2025 20:43

Just to be clear, I’ve not messed around with anything. The whole time I have been taking my daughter for regular appointments at the doctors. I’ve just discussed this with my partner and we did have a review about 4 months ago they said swap back to the blue one if and when. I had a hospital appointment before she started school for asthma and they said they didn’t think she had asthma but did not conduct any tests just asked me about her history.

she is acting completely normal now. Is breathing fine and has never wheezed, today or any other time (but I know you can still have asthma without the wheeze)

I will seek medical advice now. Thank you for your help.

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verycloakanddaggers · 07/03/2025 20:44

Dabrat21 · 07/03/2025 20:29

Urgent appointment at the doctor or a&e? I have given her the brown inhaler tonight. We have plenty in the house.

The brown inhaler won't help tonight, it has to build up in her system.

Get urgent advice now.

what2dowith · 07/03/2025 20:46

Dabrat21 · 07/03/2025 20:43

Just to be clear, I’ve not messed around with anything. The whole time I have been taking my daughter for regular appointments at the doctors. I’ve just discussed this with my partner and we did have a review about 4 months ago they said swap back to the blue one if and when. I had a hospital appointment before she started school for asthma and they said they didn’t think she had asthma but did not conduct any tests just asked me about her history.

she is acting completely normal now. Is breathing fine and has never wheezed, today or any other time (but I know you can still have asthma without the wheeze)

I will seek medical advice now. Thank you for your help.

Did the asthma nurse not do a peak flow test ? My ds did one aged 4/5

Stressedout150 · 07/03/2025 20:46

Dabrat21 · 07/03/2025 20:43

Just to be clear, I’ve not messed around with anything. The whole time I have been taking my daughter for regular appointments at the doctors. I’ve just discussed this with my partner and we did have a review about 4 months ago they said swap back to the blue one if and when. I had a hospital appointment before she started school for asthma and they said they didn’t think she had asthma but did not conduct any tests just asked me about her history.

she is acting completely normal now. Is breathing fine and has never wheezed, today or any other time (but I know you can still have asthma without the wheeze)

I will seek medical advice now. Thank you for your help.

Sorry but yes you have messed about, you stopped her brown preventer inhaler without medical advise - as you suddenly decided she was cured. Did the fact it was called preventive inhaler not give you a clue to its point? And the fact no issues happened probably meant it was doing its job.

get Medical advise now

WhatALovelyWayToBurn · 07/03/2025 20:50

Did I read right that you’ve only given two puffs of the blue inhaler? That will make next to no difference during an asthma attack, she would need up to ten puffs.

Pieundchip · 07/03/2025 20:52

Could the dairy intolerance be causing reflux?
have you got a new cat etc?
it does sound odd.
im asthmatic and mine is only triggered by running/colds and cold weather. But also laughing too much.
the brown is long acting but wouodnt be 6 months.