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PoisedWriter · 04/03/2025 09:54

I am sick to back teeth of seeing cancer ads, " Together we can find a cure", seriously!! How stupid are folk, this alleged charity has been asking for donations ( and receiving) since 1971, 53 years!! Not a 1 cure in 53 years, the CEO of the charity buys a brand new motor every 12 months, its all about the donations.!! Why are folk still funding this, it's the world's richest charity with 0 ZERO results. There will never be a cure, ever. Stop funding scrounging alleged charities. Wake up people!!

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ladyofshertonabbas · 04/03/2025 12:00

Agree, have had two friends work at that charity. I cancelled my payment after hearing a few things.

fourelementary · 04/03/2025 12:03

@PoisedWriter The only joke here is you.

I had cancer 21 years ago and am still here due to the immunotherapy I had alongside the chemo which was groundbreaking at that time and is not part of the gold standard treatment. These things don’t come about by chance- research and trials and money are required.
I now nurse people at end of life, and often charity support is used to help families cope overnight and have some respite when losing a loved one at home.
Call centres with professionals to answer people’s queries and fears for free? Priceless. Cancer charities do an amazing job and no we may not have “a cure” as there is no one cancer- but we have far better understanding of the causes and and how to help prevent them, and many many more palatable treatments that support people to live with cancer even if they cannot be cured, and supported to have a decent quality of life which is also amazing.

nc0007 · 04/03/2025 12:04

ladyofshertonabbas · 04/03/2025 12:00

Agree, have had two friends work at that charity. I cancelled my payment after hearing a few things.

Ah yes, gossip
Unless someone's had criminal charges brought against them then it's hearsay. Unless you've heard things from the executive assistant to the CEO

randomchap · 04/03/2025 12:09

PoisedWriter · 04/03/2025 09:54

I am sick to back teeth of seeing cancer ads, " Together we can find a cure", seriously!! How stupid are folk, this alleged charity has been asking for donations ( and receiving) since 1971, 53 years!! Not a 1 cure in 53 years, the CEO of the charity buys a brand new motor every 12 months, its all about the donations.!! Why are folk still funding this, it's the world's richest charity with 0 ZERO results. There will never be a cure, ever. Stop funding scrounging alleged charities. Wake up people!!

"Wake up people" the slogan of the fundamentally gullible.

I bet you do your own research don't you. Which consists of watching YouTube videos of people you already agree with

ladyofshertonabbas · 04/03/2025 12:28

nc0007 · 04/03/2025 12:04

Ah yes, gossip
Unless someone's had criminal charges brought against them then it's hearsay. Unless you've heard things from the executive assistant to the CEO

What? My friends' direct experiences of working at that company were enough for me to cancel my standing order- nothing to do with gossip or their CEO.

Jade520 · 04/03/2025 12:29

I don't donate to these huge charities because they're more businesses run on other peoples money than anything else IMO.

The CEO of Cancer Research got paid £276,900 base salary in 23/24. I'm not inclined to line his pockets but I have no problem if other people choose to.

ladyofshertonabbas · 04/03/2025 12:30

fourelementary · 04/03/2025 12:03

@PoisedWriter The only joke here is you.

I had cancer 21 years ago and am still here due to the immunotherapy I had alongside the chemo which was groundbreaking at that time and is not part of the gold standard treatment. These things don’t come about by chance- research and trials and money are required.
I now nurse people at end of life, and often charity support is used to help families cope overnight and have some respite when losing a loved one at home.
Call centres with professionals to answer people’s queries and fears for free? Priceless. Cancer charities do an amazing job and no we may not have “a cure” as there is no one cancer- but we have far better understanding of the causes and and how to help prevent them, and many many more palatable treatments that support people to live with cancer even if they cannot be cured, and supported to have a decent quality of life which is also amazing.

Agree that palliative and other care and advice is invaluable- money directed to looking after the unwell IS money well spent. (Can't watch the Macmillan Caner nurse advert and not cry.

titchy · 04/03/2025 12:38

ladyofshertonabbas · 04/03/2025 12:00

Agree, have had two friends work at that charity. I cancelled my payment after hearing a few things.

Ooh what did you hear - that Mavis roots through the donated bags of clothes and snaffles the best stuff for herself?

One of my DCs worked in a research team of that charity - amazing work they did.

wherearemypastnames · 04/03/2025 12:38

I feel happier lining his pockets than the pockets of say the chairman of BT who takes home two or three times what you cancer guy takes home

He is managing a large business - just a bit for profit one, and one that does such good that it's entitled to tax breaks

UninterestingFirstPost · 04/03/2025 12:39

It’s a mistake to think of it as a single illness, or to think of a cure as the only goal.
A well paid CEO may be worth their salary if they bring in more than they cost. Their salary alone won’t tell you their value.

Hairoit · 04/03/2025 12:48

wherearemypastnames · 04/03/2025 10:10

Zero results ?

Really ?

So a greater chance of recovery though better treatment and better detection is nothing to you?

It’s through detection though, sadly not treatment. That’s not a cure, that’s catching it early.

Technonan · 04/03/2025 12:49

Cancer is a massively complex illness, and the one word covers a multitude of conditions, so there will never a 'a cure' for cancer. There are, however, massivley improved treatments, including the ability to provide 'tailor-made' DNA treatments for individual cancers. More people are surviving cancer, including those whose condition can't be cured but who can live comfortably with it for a long time.

Cancer charities put significant amounts of money into the system. They are huge businesses, and the people who run them need to be paid appropriately - the charities need good senior management. Most people will want the going rate for the job. It would be nice if they were prepared to accept a lower rate because they were working fro a charity, but they're under no obligation to do so.

Whoarethoseguys · 04/03/2025 12:51

LittleRedRidingHoody · 04/03/2025 10:00

Hmmmm I think if we take that mindset though we never find a cure for anything.

Charity CEOs need to be well paid. No one is going to spend decades learning to run companies well to then live on a low salary. Not sure how much the one you're referring to is, but most CEOs bring far more to the charity then they take, and are massively unpaid compared to similar private companies (obviously this is fair enough, but continuing to flame them is not on IMO, and is why I'd never take a pay cut into the charity sector even if I wanted to!)

You are wrong when you say nothing has changed in over 50 years there have been huge developments in cancer care and for many people now having cancer isn't the automatic death sentence it once was.
Why are you so angry about people giving money to fund medical research? Without it thousands of people would still be dying from polio

Whoarethoseguys · 04/03/2025 12:54

JennyElection · 04/03/2025 10:29

I never donate to a charity where the CEO earns more than I do. I encourage everyone to donate to local charities where up to 100% goes to the cause.

Why shouldn't CEOs of large charities be well paid ? They have an important stressful job.

titchy · 04/03/2025 12:55

It’s through detection though, sadly not treatment. That’s not a cure, that’s catching it early.

And what do you think happens once it's caught early? Treatment, or sitting back and watching.

JennyElection · 04/03/2025 12:59

KrisAkabusi · 04/03/2025 11:56

Do you think that Jane working part time out of her kitchen is going to be able to cure cancer? Sometimes big problems need big resources. One of the reasons a CEO of a charity can earn a lot more than you do is because he has a lot more responsibility. Budgets of millions, hundreds of staff. It takes time and skill to do this effectively, so of course you pay to attract that talent.

Let me get this straight woman who work to support charities can only bake to provide any meaningful benefit to her chosen charity and the CEO of a major charity can only be must be a man?

Really hope that you are a man otherwise were doomed if women like you are actually out there!!

KrisAkabusi · 04/03/2025 13:06

I never mentioned baking. Jesus! Most local charities do not have CEOs or indeed any full time managers. It's a simple fact. Something like cancer research cannot be done on a local basis. It requires doctors, scientists, laboratories, accountants, HR, procurement officers etc. And all those people need paying, including the person at the top. And I'm specifically referring to a man in my post because this thread is about a particular male CEO.

JennyElection · 04/03/2025 13:38

KrisAkabusi · 04/03/2025 13:06

I never mentioned baking. Jesus! Most local charities do not have CEOs or indeed any full time managers. It's a simple fact. Something like cancer research cannot be done on a local basis. It requires doctors, scientists, laboratories, accountants, HR, procurement officers etc. And all those people need paying, including the person at the top. And I'm specifically referring to a man in my post because this thread is about a particular male CEO.

My original point was that I choose to promote and give to local charities who do not have huge overheads whilst running one of my own local chairty . I encourage other people to do the same.

Some people as in Ops case are fed up with large charities for their own reasons and they maybe have stopped donating to charities all together. A lot of people that have donated to my charity £100 here £10 there can see direct results from their hard-earned money and have then been encouraged to donate more and found more joy in doing so.

I really appreciate you taking the time to explain how charities and clinical research works and I will take this on board to go along with my 25 years as a volunteer in local charities.

Hoardasurass · 04/03/2025 13:48

JennyElection · 04/03/2025 12:59

Let me get this straight woman who work to support charities can only bake to provide any meaningful benefit to her chosen charity and the CEO of a major charity can only be must be a man?

Really hope that you are a man otherwise were doomed if women like you are actually out there!!

I think that poster meant that Jane would be doing her research at home part time rather than baking to fundraise

ErrolTheDragon · 04/03/2025 14:20

I'm not sure what either of those posters was driving at but re 'And I'm specifically referring to a man in my post because this thread is about a particular male CEO', if we're talking about the CEO of Cancer Research U.K., isn't that currently a woman?Confused

Not that it makes any difference the inane, deeply ignorant rant from the OP!

Maggiethecat · 04/03/2025 15:05

JennyElection · 04/03/2025 13:38

My original point was that I choose to promote and give to local charities who do not have huge overheads whilst running one of my own local chairty . I encourage other people to do the same.

Some people as in Ops case are fed up with large charities for their own reasons and they maybe have stopped donating to charities all together. A lot of people that have donated to my charity £100 here £10 there can see direct results from their hard-earned money and have then been encouraged to donate more and found more joy in doing so.

I really appreciate you taking the time to explain how charities and clinical research works and I will take this on board to go along with my 25 years as a volunteer in local charities.

Spectacularly missing the point!

The OP’s ire is directed at a specific cancer charity. People can of course choose to give to whichever small local charities but that does not diminish the importance of the work of cancer research charities.

You’d soon be singing a different tune if you were afflicted.

XenoBitch · 04/03/2025 15:13

YABU
Zero results? Decades ago, cancer was a death sentence. Now we have so many new treatments... stuff like stem cell treatments etc.
1 in 2 people will get cancer... that does not mean 1 in 2 are dying from it... and that is down to progress

The CEO issue is a separate one. Big charities do need paid staff, and knowledgeable ones at that. Or do you think a huge national charity that raises millions should have a CEO on NMW?
Even the lady that founded my dog's rescue pays herself a wage from donations. It is her life, and she needs to live too.

EmmaMaria · 04/03/2025 15:19

I'd like to see some evidence for your claims, and, in particular, your medico-scientific qualifications to substantiate your claim that cancer(s) will never be cured.

Survival rates have massively improved over the last half century, and improved detection rates at earlier stages mean that more people survive cancer than ever before. In my lifetime I have seen cancer go from being a certain death sentence to something that you may survive, and if not, something that you can live with for longer and with an improved quality of that life than previously. My close friend died of cancer in January. The fact that she wasn't dead six years ago is because of research into cancer, which put her cancer into remission after treatment. When it came back a year ago, the fact that she had 12 months of reasonable living quality was due to experimental treatments, giving her extra months and contributing to everyone's future with that research.

You tell her six year old son that getting one last Christmas with his mother wasn't worth the effort. Now tell all the families who have had longer with their loved ones, or even got to keep a loved one, that it wasn't worth the effort.

Maggiethecat · 04/03/2025 15:24

The Joker hasn’t bothered to return. How funny…

swimlyn · 04/03/2025 16:00

wherearemypastnames · 04/03/2025 10:11

And isn't it warped that you are happy for some people to be paid well with responsible jobs - bankers, CEO of industries - just not those people whose work is perhaps more valuable to society ?

OP didn’t say that though…

I also look at how charities behave with their money. Many years ago I dropped the RSPCA and more recently the NSPCC.

The former have lavish assets and their sites around the country always want people to work for no pay. Try calling them out for an emergency. If your experience is anything like mine, you’ll be very disappointed. It’s nothing like their repetitive TV adverts.

The NSPCC were (and probably still are) giving very bad advice to organisations such as Girl Guides concerning trans matters. Those recommendations were, imho, putting kids at risk, so quite the opposite to what you’d expect.

I’ve given up contacting any charity to ask questions. It’s my choice where I put my charity donations, ditto for you of course, and for OP.