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Headteachers personal dog in playground whats your opinion

206 replies

Grk · 27/02/2025 09:11

Just wondering what's your thoughts
Our headteacher will sometimes bring her dog to work with her some days and takes it from classroom to classroom and the lunch hall, she also brings it on the playground at morning drop off and afternoon pick up . This dog is a rescue personal pet, it is not a professional emotional/ support/ assistant dog (I know this as im within the school)
This really bothers me both as a parent and a colleague for many reasons
Health and safety, allergies, children are also scared of dogs, dog looks anxious and scared, hygiene issues - the children also play on the playground at playtime and lunch often sitting on the ground , and the main one being parents of the school are not allowed to bring their dogs onto the playground and this has been communicated numerous times it's not really setting an example.

Am I thinking too much into this or would this bother you also ?

OP posts:
TeenLifeMum · 27/02/2025 09:38

BattIestar · 27/02/2025 09:21

It's not a positive thing for many of us. If people want their kid around a dog, they can facilitate that. A dog should not be imposed on children. My children are both allergic too, plus have had several very negative incidents with dogs.

People don't risk assess their own dogs at all - they all think their dogs are soft and soppy and wouldn't hurt a fly. Then when they do, it's oh, he's never done that before, or oh, I never imagined he'd snap/bite/whatever.

But they will need to live in a world with dogs. Service dogs/police dogs/people walking so they need to learn coping mechanisms and doing that in a safe, risk assessed and managed way is positive. That said, if managed appropriately, dc should be able to choose if they engage or not.

MagicalMystical · 27/02/2025 09:38

I think this is really poor judgement by the Head

TeenLifeMum · 27/02/2025 09:39

TommyShelbysRazor · 27/02/2025 09:23

People don't risk assess their own dogs. That way of thinking is exactly what causes accidents. Because everyone will say "oh not my lovely, fluffy, soft dog".

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All the schools that have brought in a dog that I know of have definitely completed a risk assessment. Other people can’t be trusted and rightly can’t take dogs onto school property.

Toomanysquishmallows · 27/02/2025 09:40

I really wouldn’t be happy about this , both my younger children dislike dogs .

HelenWheels · 27/02/2025 09:40

i think its a lovely thing to do

Femb0t · 27/02/2025 09:43

I agree with you OP. I'm a dog lover, but don't agree with the way dogs are allowed everywhere now: shops, cafes, even schools...
It's different for service dogs obviously.

Whinge · 27/02/2025 09:43

This dog is a rescue personal pet, it is not a professional emotional/ support/ assistant dog (I know this as im within the school)

How long has the headteacher had the dog?

I understand your concerns, have you asked to see the risk assessment? It's also worth pointing out that many rescues won't rehome dogs to families with young children, I wonder if the rescue knew that the dog would be spending a lot of time in a busy school environment.

HelenWheels · 27/02/2025 09:44

i think you need to let the head make her own decision regarding this

Hoppinggreen · 27/02/2025 09:46

I love dogs and used to take mine to school pick up BUT school had a no dogs policy so I waited in a corner by the gates so nobody had to walk past too closely if they didn't want to.
The Heads dogis not there to benefit the school or its pupils, its so she doesn't need doogy daycare or a walker I would imagine. its inapporopriate and shouldn't be allowed

ARichtGoodDram · 27/02/2025 09:46

For me it depends entirely on how impartial the dog owner can be in the risk assessment.

I worked in one school where the DHT's dog came in and it was a great thing. It was a school with two separate buildings so allergies could be properly managed, the risk assessment was done properly and the time children spent with the dog was closely monitored and beneficial.

In another school the HT was completely blind to the fact her dog was entirely unsuitable. The dog frequently escaped her office and had to be chased around corridors barking its head off disrupting lessons. There were also at least 4 incidents where children or staff were nipped by the dog. Each time the HT managed to blame them - they were in the wrong place, they were too loud, or some other thing. At the pint I left staff were getting the union involved

HelenWheels · 27/02/2025 09:49

so it is not that unusual a scenario by the sounds of it

SwingTheMonkey · 27/02/2025 09:50

twistyizzy · 27/02/2025 09:21

At DDs school many of the teachers have their dogs with them, not in lessons but around the grounds and the kids love it. DDs housemistress has a labrador who is usually found lounging on her sofa in her common room office. Never heard of any child/parent having an issue with it and the kids love interacting with the dogs throughout their day. Makes it feel like a home from home.

Same at my kids’ school, and their last. Reading the comments it’s feels like something perhaps more normal/ accepted in an independent school?

TommyShelbysRazor · 27/02/2025 09:51

TeenLifeMum · 27/02/2025 09:39

All the schools that have brought in a dog that I know of have definitely completed a risk assessment. Other people can’t be trusted and rightly can’t take dogs onto school property.

I didn't say no risk assessment. I said people don't risk assess their own dogs. Meaning they shouldn't because their view is biased. They can't remain impartial.

Pelot · 27/02/2025 09:52

Both kids have teachers' dogs in school and in the classrooms. There's lots of data on how beneficial it is for children. It has to be well managed like everything else. We play rugby in school, swing from the play set etc. School is not a risk free environment.

twistyizzy · 27/02/2025 09:53

SwingTheMonkey · 27/02/2025 09:50

Same at my kids’ school, and their last. Reading the comments it’s feels like something perhaps more normal/ accepted in an independent school?

Possibly yes. We are rural so most kids grow up with dogs hence no allergies/fears of dogs. The kids get so much from being able to interact with the dogs, especially if they are upset/worried. They aren't trained therapy dogs but from what DD says, the majority act like they are 😆. Personally I feel really strongly that the dogs add a special aspect to the school.

Bonkersdogmum · 27/02/2025 09:55

I would ask to see if there has been a risk assessment carried out. I think it does also depend on the breed. I would also imagine that school will welcome parents views and feedback.

HT at DS old school had a lovely cocker spaniel he brought to school with him and I can genuinely say that she brought all the children much pleasure - but will also add she was very well trained and well socialised and had her own area during the day that she could rest in. I had no concerns

Parents at DDs school are allowed to take dogs onto the school playground at pick up and collection and over the last few years I have seen no issues. I will add as a dog owner myself, with an old dog (collie cross breed) and now also a very giddy puppy (spaniel) I have discussed with the HT about bringing puppy on the school run with me explaining she is giddy - HT has no concerns at all but as her owner I will be keeping her on a very short lead and have carried her a few times when she has been too excited - because I do appreciate that no child wants a dog jumping up at them. I do think it’s healthy for children (even one’s scared of dogs) to see dogs regularly to see that generally, dogs are not to be feared, and I do allow with close supervision, children to pet the dogs.

Miaowzabella · 27/02/2025 09:55

Ridiculous. The headteacher is presumably earning a decent salary. Why can't she get a dog sitter?

BigSilly · 27/02/2025 09:57

She will have risk assessed it.

MaggieMistletoe · 27/02/2025 09:57

I wouldn't be at all happy.
My children are all very nervous of dogs. They didn't start out like that but through hiking and the beach being our main pastimes, they've been chased, jumped up at, bowled over, barked at etc countless times (won't even get started on all the incidents that are simply disgusting rather than daunting). My husband has been bitten multiple times in his old line of work where he had to visit people in their homes. We know someone who was badly mauled with terrible consequences. Many dog owners are the scourge of society and anyone who bleats 'he's just playing/he wouldn't hurt you/he's friendly' deserves to be punched. And now increasingly even schools are not safe from constant threat of dogs. Completely unacceptable.

Cattery · 27/02/2025 09:58

Perhaps all staff should do what they like and bring their pets into school. Just because she loves the dog doesn’t mean others do

Gall10 · 27/02/2025 09:59

TeenLifeMum · 27/02/2025 09:18

Head teacher knows their dog and can risk assess appropriately. Can’t do that for parents’ dogs.

Allergies - it’s outside so minimal risk (I say that as a family with serious allergies - me and dd3).

Evidence backs up the impact of a dog being in school with improved attendance and better mental health (especially in dc with autism and adhd). So many schools have this and it’s a very positive thing so long as it’s managed appropriately.

Love this response!

Lyn397 · 27/02/2025 10:00

I would have loved this when i was at school! I think it's great and really good for kids that have a fear of dogs that their parents think is best treated by keeping them far away from all and any dogs. I'm allergic to dogs and cats but it wouldn't have put me off having a dog at school, I'd have loved it.

Of course random other dogs shouldn't be brought onto school grounds though, you could have all sorts of large, powerful dogs arriving with their completely irresponsible owners.

My concern would be for the dog if it is stressed and anxious due to the environment. If that's the case then it's not fair for it to be brought to school.

RandomButtons · 27/02/2025 10:01

Moveoverdarlin · 27/02/2025 09:19

It would very much depend on the breed of the dog for me.

I’ve been bitten by Labradors, never been bitten by any of the “ dangerous” breeds.

Training and personality is more important than breeding. Obviously then power of said dog is critical here too. No bully breed should ever be allowed in a school.

LoveFridaynight · 27/02/2025 10:03

DDs school had a school dog but it was trained not to react and was incredibly gentle. It helped DD1 who was terrified of dogs (she's still not keen but much better than she was) and DD2 loves animals.
However that's different to just bringing a random dog in. I wouldn't be happy but I expect complaints would be ignored.
I was thinking the other day it would be nice if DS's school had a dog. He's low functioning autistic but does love animals but then I remembered when he was at nursery a staff member brought in their tortoise and DS tried to pull it's leg so perhaps it's just as well there's no school dog.

elliejjtiny · 27/02/2025 10:05

My dc secondary school has a therapy dog who is great and the children love him. I wouldn't be happy about a head teacher bringing in their pet though.