AIBU to think that WASPI women should not be entitled to compensation?

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They've been on the news again marching for compensation in a climate where the government is having to make very difficult decisions about funding to stop our debt ever increasing.

I think there are far more deserving cases for goverment money than women who didn't act on information at the time and sort their pensions out or keep working (p/t or f/t) until retirement age.

Moreover, the people paying this compensation are those who will be working until they are 67 to 70 to claim a state pension. Surely, it's a bit ick to expect them to bail out women who retired at 60?

Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I should have said those statistics were from the number of students at universities, not the whole population. So 23%of women at universities compared to 77% of men. Only about 12% of the population actually had university degrees. Times have massively changed.

Is this an extract from a Barbra Cartland novel?

The pension age has already gone up twice in my working life and will be increased again in the next few years. Who do I moan to?

Was just thinking exactly the same

It was 4% in the early 1960s- all people at uni.

Disagreeing with the nonsense claims regarding the pension age being equalised isn’t being anti older women. Yawn.

People can disagree with you because your points are stupid without it having anything to do with being older or a woman.

All these MC, educated women saying they were fully aware of the changes etc. Many women weren't in that position eg my MIl who is a WASPI.
Mining town in NE England. Left school at 13 to work in a mill, got married at 19 and left all financials up to her husband. Worked 2 hours per day as she was at home raising her kids + carer for her parents. She would never have even opened a letter, let alone understand the content. She doesn't watch news or read any paper other than the local rag. 1000s of women were in a similar position.

Very easy to judge from a position of education and awareness.

Even if the WASPI women were not informed at the time of the change, did they not check their entitlement and amount before retiring?

That way, even if you'd not been informed at the time of the change, you'd still be informed before you actually retire and it's too late.

And if you do retire and find there's no pension for you yet, you can go back to work, no?

Changes do happen. Laws change. I think we are all required to react accordingly when they do.

The way I see it is that most posts here are from Waspi women who agree that the campaign is wrong.

Thank you explaining it so well. I remember it being in the news at the time so I've always felt confused about the whole waspi issue.

What era are you? I started work in 1980 aged 20. Admittedly I couldn't join the workplace pension until I was 24 but I joined it then. Because I couldn't I whapped £50 a month into a ten year savings plan. And took out another a couple of years later. They each paid out £10k which was very handy when I started a family.

Don't make location the issue.

How old is your MIL? Because the school leaving age was not 13 if she's now in her 60s or early 70s.

The SLA was 15 in 1947 and 16 in 1972

So she's confused or you've misunderstood.

So whether she retired at 60 or 70 she took absolutely no interest or role in her future and somehow that’s the fault of other people?
Never opened a letter, read a paper, or watched the news? Are you aware these changes were announced in the mid 90s not 1901?!

Yep she's early 70s. It is irrelevant what the school leaving age was, that's when she left school. We really aren't that far away from when kids had to work in order to feed the family.
Location IS part of the issue, NE is still behind the South in terms of culture + attitudes.

Yes and see my other comment about the culture + expectations where she lives.
She left everything up to my FIL because that was his role.
She has reading age of approx 9 years old and takes no interest in any current affairs.

Well I will have worked for over 50 years when I get my pension unless it changes again

You could not leave school at 13 then.

Even my parents (one would be almost 100 now if alive) couldn't leave school till 14.

It's not irrelevant. It was the law.

It doesn't matter what the law was, she left school at that age! Not sure how else I can phrase that.

I though waspi women were born 1950 - 1960? School leaving age has been at least 15 years since the 2nd WW.

Also it was on the national news which is why I knew about it and I'm not even affected.

Well she was playing truant or she's confused at best. As you weren't alive then not sure how you're so sure she's right!

By that argument, no changes can ever be made, just in case the less well educated don't understand or choose not to engage.

Or she was earning money. Jesus christ just because this is outside your own experience doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I’m from one of the most deprived post codes in the UK and your nonsense exaggerations about “culture and expectations” in the NE are completely stupid.
The majority of women in 1995 when this was announced had tv, satellite tv even, access to the news etc and weren’t living in some Dickensian life too busy hand washing their rags to hear anything about the pension changes.

Not arguing that at all just stating the experience of 1 woman as to how some women may not have been aware.

But even if she had of known as PP stated, what would she have done differently?