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Does this sound like benefit fraud?

40 replies

onlyjames · 20/02/2025 14:42

Someone I know has separated from their husband but they are still living together as neither has anywhere else to live.

He still pays all of the bills and mortgage and nursery fees, her phone bill, petrol, everything.
She works and is now claiming UC as a single parent.
Is this right? She's getting all bills and mortgage paid by him and her wage is practically her own plus UC.
She's never been so well off and is going on holidays with the kids and having expensive days out because she's got no expenses other than food.
I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it if she's entitled to it fair enough but something doesn't add up.

OP posts:
spuddy4 · 20/02/2025 14:46

This is the third benefit fraud thread I've read today. If you all want to report them just do it, you don't need the internet to validate your decision.

onlyjames · 20/02/2025 14:48

spuddy4 · 20/02/2025 14:46

This is the third benefit fraud thread I've read today. If you all want to report them just do it, you don't need the internet to validate your decision.

Well I don't want to report it if it seems perfectly legitimate to others which is why I was asking.

OP posts:
christmasearly · 20/02/2025 14:50

Why do you care?

Fencehedge · 20/02/2025 14:51

If living together, they would need to be doing so as singletons who do not share their finances, so all bills divided by half. She can still claim UC legally if she is prepared to do this.

Cattreesea · 20/02/2025 14:51

Yet another so called 'benefit fraud' thread today?

It is almost as if there is a concerted attempt to push a particular agenda...

onlyjames · 20/02/2025 14:53

Cattreesea · 20/02/2025 14:51

Yet another so called 'benefit fraud' thread today?

It is almost as if there is a concerted attempt to push a particular agenda...

I'm not in control of what other people post. I just asked a question.

OP posts:
ThymeScent · 20/02/2025 14:54

onlyjames · 20/02/2025 14:42

Someone I know has separated from their husband but they are still living together as neither has anywhere else to live.

He still pays all of the bills and mortgage and nursery fees, her phone bill, petrol, everything.
She works and is now claiming UC as a single parent.
Is this right? She's getting all bills and mortgage paid by him and her wage is practically her own plus UC.
She's never been so well off and is going on holidays with the kids and having expensive days out because she's got no expenses other than food.
I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it if she's entitled to it fair enough but something doesn't add up.

Just report it and let the authorities decide if it is or isn’t fraud.

BishBashBoshClick · 20/02/2025 14:54

If they're not in a relationship, it's not fair for one person to be denied benefits on the basis that the person they live with is responsible for their financial welfare.

So no, it's not fraud, even if your friend has the audacity to be on benefits and also enjoying their life.

LadyKenya · 20/02/2025 14:54

What is it with some people? Get on with your own life!

Hulahooplaa · 20/02/2025 14:57

ThymeScent · 20/02/2025 14:54

Just report it and let the authorities decide if it is or isn’t fraud.

Don't do this. Mind your business and live your life. Maybe he will move out and cut all what he is paying and thats that. Maybe he won't. Who cares.

Puppydogjogs · 20/02/2025 15:18

Have I accidentally stumbled into Nazi Germany?

I would be curious to learn of the median intelligence of the average informer.

2catsandhappy · 20/02/2025 15:25

It could be possible that they live separately, share/take turns child care and he pays for dc and she claims UC.
At some point UC will go over her claim with a fine tooth comb. 3 months of bank statements, pretty much line by line. She will have to explain who is paying her bills or regular payments into her bank account.
Just leave her be. She possibly has house move, divorce, maintenance, court, and upping her work hours to come yet.
I don't know why 2 parents, parenting together doesn't "add up" for you.

TheMoment · 20/02/2025 15:38

It is allowed and not fraud. It’s also pretty common. Her kids are probably entitled to FSM too if she isn’t working - as anything paid for by father is not counted in any calculation of income etc. So on paper to the government she gets nothing and receive full entitlements.

HeChokedOnAChorizo · 20/02/2025 15:45

2catsandhappy · 20/02/2025 15:25

It could be possible that they live separately, share/take turns child care and he pays for dc and she claims UC.
At some point UC will go over her claim with a fine tooth comb. 3 months of bank statements, pretty much line by line. She will have to explain who is paying her bills or regular payments into her bank account.
Just leave her be. She possibly has house move, divorce, maintenance, court, and upping her work hours to come yet.
I don't know why 2 parents, parenting together doesn't "add up" for you.

Why would UC do this? I claimed as a single parent a few years ago as me and DP split up. We still lived in the house together as I couldn’t get the nasty abusive fucker out.

All UC did was split the rent in half so that’s the only deduction they made. They knew he was living there. Only difference was he refused to pay anything so I was bloody skint only getting half rent from UC as all the bills and Direct Debits were more than my wages. UC didn’t care who paid what, they might have been interested if he was still here after a year for example but he moved out after 3 months.

i never had to provide proof that we had split up or who was paying what.

Huggybear16 · 20/02/2025 16:32

It is none of your business.

Maverickess · 20/02/2025 17:04

Cattreesea · 20/02/2025 14:51

Yet another so called 'benefit fraud' thread today?

It is almost as if there is a concerted attempt to push a particular agenda...

Exactly this.
Make up dodgy benefit claim/fraud stories and get people all good and frothy.

GRCP · 20/02/2025 17:05

How is it any of your business? What do you gain from reporting them? Life is hard enough.

HauntedBungalow · 20/02/2025 17:07

No, it doesn't sound like fraud.

Are you very underutilized, OP?

Hadenough2022 · 20/02/2025 17:08

You can report anonymously and let the relevant people decide. It may well be legitimate or it may be done to claim benefits.

ValentineValentineV · 20/02/2025 17:11

Report it if you really think it is fraud (I don’t think it is) but probably nothing will happen even if it’s dodgy.

I’ve reported the same person three times (it 100% is fraud) and so far there have been no consequences.

ThreeFeetTall · 20/02/2025 17:21

She won't be getting that much as is working as has no rent to pay. (Unless she is claiming the nursery fees which he is paying which does seem a bit dodgy)

Showerflowers · 20/02/2025 17:34

Cattreesea · 20/02/2025 14:51

Yet another so called 'benefit fraud' thread today?

It is almost as if there is a concerted attempt to push a particular agenda...

This

FurAll · 20/02/2025 17:36

No it’s not benefit fraud because these people are a figment of your imagination OP.

SwisswolvesLilley · 20/02/2025 17:46

An acquaintance of mine once said her husband had met another woman and they were splitting up, but there was something odd about her reaction that I couldn't quite put my finger on. It was as though she wasn't really bothered, and the story had been rehearsed, no tears, no emotion, no nothing. It later transpired the husband lives on paper with his mother and my acquaintance was now claiming UC as a single parent, with hubby living unofficially in her house. I think the 'other woman' story was exactly that, a story for them to separate and claim benefits. I would never report it, but have my suspicions about why the split really came about.

BobbyBiscuits · 20/02/2025 17:53

It's none of your business. Why can't people just focus on their own finances rather than writing on here about shopping their family and friends to the government for suspected fraud?
Their loss won't be your gain so just forget about it.

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