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Solo train men with no awareness

33 replies

Veryverycalmnow · 19/02/2025 22:18

I am probably being unreasonable as it is about public transport where you sometimes see an awful lack of manners, but this really stuck out today.
I was catching a train (no reserved seats but not that busy) with my child and we managed to get a table seat- great for playing card games or a bit of drawing on the journey, but feels a luxury for us 2. A mum with 4 kids got on and was desperately trying to seat them all together or as close as possible. It wasn't possible, so I looked around to see if we could help. Me and my DS pick up all our stuff and move to 2 other seats so she can get her kids sat down in a 4 (1 on her knee), which I didn't mind at all- DS was happy to be doing the right thing etc. As we were moving, I noticed a couple of the tables she had tried and not been able to use were only occupied by solo men with legs spread wide and bag on seat etc and even though neither had headphones on/ in, they had let the woman and kids struggle or just been oblivious of the situation somehow even when I was moving all our stuff around.
Anyway, if you've read this far, you may be thinking, like me that it wasn't surprising, but I still can't grasp why this happens!

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Patchworkted · 13/08/2025 18:40

I know some men are pigs, but this isn't my experience at all.

I regularly get a very crowded train out of London and IME, especially young men, just expect to stand, leaving the seats for others.

Istilldontlikeolives · 13/08/2025 18:42

MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/08/2025 18:34

I can't say I've noticed that. Where I live, there's no real queue at bus stops, but everyone remembers the order in which they arrived at the stop and boards the bus accordingly. It's a pretty strict, albeit unwritten, rule. If anything, it's the men who are more likely to let people go ahead of them.

Ok.

Mumrant123 · 13/08/2025 18:44

Are you in London by any chance? Absolute d@@k heads on the commute in.
Worst experience was when I was heavily pregnant (3 times), every commute there was always single women and men who were the worst at not giving up the “disabled seat”, clearly not pregnant or elderly or disabled (please don’t do the whole invisible disability comments!!). At busy times I was left dangling hanging on for dear life, despite asking them to move, no one would look up and pretended not to see me!

MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/08/2025 18:50

Istilldontlikeolives · 13/08/2025 18:42

Ok.

Did you only want replies that also criticised men?

Chinsupmeloves · 23/08/2025 22:52

I do find it very sad and rude that so many travellers plonked their bag on window seat and won't consider budging until asked.

I love a window seat and will put my bag on aisle seat if not busy but rhen read the room and move it to my feet.

I also find it's mostly young men who do what you said. Xx

PInkyStarfish · 23/08/2025 23:44

Feminists wanted women to be treated equally as men but then when women aren’t given preferential treatment they don’t like it!

Make your mind up!

5foot5 · 23/08/2025 23:54

I wouldn't put my bag on a seat, I do think that is rude and entitled. But, honestly, if I had snagged a table seat I wouldn't willingly give it up.

Veryverycalmnow · 24/08/2025 18:41

PInkyStarfish · 23/08/2025 23:44

Feminists wanted women to be treated equally as men but then when women aren’t given preferential treatment they don’t like it!

Make your mind up!

If it was a man with a young family struggling to seat them all I would do the same and move for them to sit together.

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