To be shocked watching back kids movies from my childhood with DD

[Picklepower]

DD is 6 and we watch quite a few films together, mixture of old and new. Last Halloween I was so excited to watch a film from my childhood, decided against hocus pocus but went with Casper. Well, turns out not once but TWICE Eric idle's character shouts BITCH at Carrigan. (She's is tbf but a bit much for a Pg film).

Just sat down to watch Charlie and the chocolate factory (from 2005!) and mike teevee says 'even a retard could figure it out'. What the hell!

Any other corkers you've come across watching back your childhood films?

I'm sitting here thinking, "trains planes and automobiles", is that really an "old classics to watch"? I was 22 and in my first job after university when that film came out.

"...and if anyone has any recommendations..."

Well, for starters, I would pretty much avoid any film from the 1980s.

Well except, maybe, for the 1983 film "WarGames" where a very young Matthew Broderick played a nerdy teenage computer geek.

Or maybe "Beverley Hills Cop" (1984) a great action/comedy with Eddie Murphy (so many people had "Axel F" as a ringtone back then).

Speaking of Eddie Murphy, another film I would recommend is "Trading Places" (1983) with Eddie Murphy, Dan Aykroyd and Jamie Lee Curtis. A really great film.

And of course, speaking of Dan Aykroyd, you have to say, the original "Ghostbusters" (1984) is a really great film for a teenager to watch.

But I do remember that my younger brother said that he always also really liked a very overlooked film (that also starred Bill Murray and Harold Ramis) called "Stripes" (1981) where they joined the US army.
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Having said that though, here are some suggestions for some older films for a 13 year old boy.

I will start off with saying, just about any "Carry On..." film he will probably find funny (it will also give you an opportunity to talk afterwards about differing attitudes towards the roles of women).

I would likely start off with Carry On Spying (1964), Carry on Cowboy (1965), Carry On Up the Khyber (1968) and Carry On Cleo (1964). Some of these are currently on ITVX.

But, if you aren't happy with that (although he will likely enjoy them), how about:

"Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" with Kevin Costner (currently on Netflix). It's even newer than the other film (1991) but is an enjoyable historical romp.

https://www.netflix.com/watch/60028308

Even though Kevin Costner was the lead (with Morgan Freeman as his sidekick), I absolutely loved Alan Rickman as the evil Sheriff of Nottingham. He had some really memorable lines like "Call off Christmas":

“That's it then. Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings, and call off Christmas.”

In the original theatrical release of the film there was one very small part of a scene, that lasted maybe three or four seconds, that absolutely shocked me. But whenever I have seen the film on TV or streaming, that part of the scene (or often the entire scene) has always been removed.

Going back a bit further, how about Grease? The 1978 musical with John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John. I first saw this when I was 13 and my brother (who was 12 at the time) also really enjoyed it. It's currently on Amazon Prime.

You might also want to think about some "westerns"

For example, "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" (1969) with Paul Newman and Robert Redford, the film won four Oscars. A lot of action and also singing "Raindrops Keep Fallin' on My Head". This is a trailer:

Incidentally, also think about "The Sting" (1973) with the same actors. That won seven Oscars.

Or also "The Magnificent Seven" (1960).
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Also think about some of the early James Bond films. Anything from the first three films "Dr No" (1962), "From Russia With Love" (1963) and "Goldfinger" (1964)
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There are also some fun little comedies like "Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines" (1965) about a fictitious air race race form London to Paris in 1910. It has Terry Thomas as the classic evil villain who eventually gets his due rewards. It was nominated for an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay in that year.

Then there was a follow up to that in the same vein called "Monte Carlo or Bust!" (1969)
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But, for me, "old classics" are slightly older than that.

Trying to think about what my brother might have liked at that age I think of the old Ealing comedies.

For example, the 1959 film "The Mouse that Roared" with Peter Sellers.

Or his later, much darker, film "Dr Strangelove" (1964) set during the Cold War.

Or how about "Kind Hearts and Coronets" (1949) a comedy/drama where Alec Guinness (Obi Wan Kenobi in Star Wars) plays several different characters that get killed off so that somebody can inherit a title.

An actress who appeared in that film, Joan Greenwood, also appeared in the film "Whisky Galore!" (1949) which is a really amusing film about a ship full of whisky being wrecked on a Scottish island during the war when there was rationing.

Or, "The Titfield Thunderbolt" (1953) a comedy which involved trying to keep a railway line running.

Or, "Passport to Pimlico" (1949) where the residents of Pimlico found out that they could declare independence from the UK and so not be subject to rationing anymore.

Or there are any number of films by the Boulting brothers. For example "Private's Progress" (1956) and "I'm All Right Jack" (1959) that starred Ian Carmichael, Richard Attenborough and Terry Thomas. Amusing films; the first is about life in the army and the second is about then contemporary industrial relations. Peter Sellers won the BAFTA for Best British Actor in a Leading Role for that film in 1959.

Incidentally, Jack Lemmon won the BAFTA for best Foreign Actor in that year for "Some Like It Hot" which is also another really good film that I think he might enjoy.

Talking about Ian Carmichael, another film worth watching is "School for Scoundrels" (1960) a comedy about a man who takes revenge against those who have taken advantage of him.
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Then another couple of suggestions. "Lawrence of Arabia" (1962) a really stunning film starring Peter O'Toole (along with Alec Guinness and a whole load of other famous actors) set during World War One.

Or a couple of films about thieves:

"The Pink Panther" (1963) the original film in the series with David Niven and Peter Sellers.

"To Catch A Thief" (1955) directed by Alfred Hitchcock and starring Cary Grant and Grace Kelly. Cary Grant is a retired burglar in Monaco who has an imposter copying his former method of operation.
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And then, just finally, something totally off the wall. A film I remember with pleasure that seemed to be shown on BBC every Christmas when I was young "Born Free" (1966) based on the true story of a couple in Kenya caring for an orphaned lion cub called Elsa.
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ps I'll just end all this by saying that my brother saw the film "Animal House" in the cinema at the age of 13 (he sneaked in under age, it was a "14" film) when it was first released in the UK. He enjoyed it very much at the time but says that on watching it now as an adult a few scenes did make him cringe and he would not want his own son to go and watch it at that age without him talking to him about it afterwards.

Big. Totally cringes me out. This is a kid having sex with a grown practically middle aged woman! It’s paedophilia territory and I’m sure if it was a young girl sleeping with a grown man it would not be seen as a family friendly comedy! 🤢

I had a colleague who was very upset when she discovered that a friend's mum had allowed a group of 10 yr old boys to watch The Human Caterpillar.

My DS is obsessed with Ghostbusters and we thought it would be fine for a 6yo with a love of all things spooky… turns out it’s a 12!!!?!?

He was absolutely fine, but 2 things:

1- I don’t remember anyone saying “shit” but they do. Tbf nothing DS hasn’t heard from other kids at school and he thought it was hilarious (they said a naughty word mummy!) I think it was just the once.

2 - He asked “why are there so many smokers?” (What he calls cigarettes) - which really shows the difference in generations because until he pointed it out I didn’t even take notice of people smoking, it just went over my head. Growing up it was so normal to see adults smoking pretty much everywhere! He doesn’t have any adults in his life that smoke, and found it really weird. Made me feel old, but pleased some things have changed for the better.

We also LOVE the three Amigos in our house, it’s my ultimate silly comfort watch

To not like the Princess Bride is inconceivable.

Same woman. Biff tried to rape Marty’s mum (when she was a teen)

Me & my friend got into see Saturday night fever when we were 13, didn’t think we would but did so 🤷🏻‍♀️😁

Teenagehorrorbag Grease was a PG when it came out not an 18. Practically all the girls in our class went to see it back in ‘78, we were 14.

DD loved all the 90s films. We laughed at Ace Ventura and Mrs Doubtfire and cried buckets at Casper.
My fave film to watch with her was Denis.
Shes 35 now and we always talk about the films we watched.
Oh and she loved Bad Girls when she was about 15. Shock horror!!
Christ, the ‘hard watch’ brigade 🙄 what bores.

Disney’s Peter Pan.

The sexism, the way all the female characters want Peters attention and are all jealous of each other.

The creepiness of Peter sneaking into children’s bedrooms at night to kidnap them.

The way Tinkerbell is portrayed in general.

And of course the racism.

Another one I watched and realised Peter was a total cunt. If he was my kid I’d tell him to fuck off to never never land as well

My kids adored Grease. It was the dancing. They had a sound track tape and played it every lunch time at school and made up dances - to be put forward for performances at school assembly. Ha ha ha.
They did the same with Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid.
They loved Little Rascals, The Simpsons.

I liked The Sound of Music, Kimba the White Lion and Snow White. I also loved Lassie and ALL the DisneyLand films like - The Three Lives of Thomasina and Pollyanna.

What about Top Gun, where he follows her into the toilets like a stalker?

Omg! A 5 year-old drew barrymore says penis-breath in the first 5 minutes of e.t. I took my kids to see this wholesome u at the cinema for it's anniversary age 5 and 7. I nearly choked and was so stressed the rest of the film. Can't believe they allowed this on a u. Super shocking.

I remember it being shown at school and one of the kids saying there was a naked woman in one scene for a split second and no one believed her. But it turned out to be true 😆

The scene where Elliot says it was an unexpected surprise for the lady who plays his mum. I remember seeing an interview with her (think it was an anniversary event). Rather than reshooting the scene Spielberg loved the way she looked and was indeed very shocked but also how she kept her composure and finished the scene 😆

Yep the pussy wagon in grease went over my head until I was an adult.Watership down was really bloody scary!! The flasher gremlin!! David Bowie wanting a child bride in labyrinth,legend and never ending story traumatised some kids lol.
Andre is a lovely film about a girl and a seal we all loved as a family.

Ok I just had to double check and Snopes say it is definitely is
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-rescuers-topless/

The first f-word broadcast on UK TV was Kenneth Tynan in 1963 (although Miriam Margoles said it by accident earlier).

NRTFT but I remember some years ago an MNer being utterly horrified when she was reading the Harry Potters to her child when the word "Git" was said by Ron.

I remember posting that she should stop now as the language would get worse, not least Ron calling Malfoy a bastard in the final book!

Kids are better hearing this stuff and being taught context at home than when they are at school.

Blue lagoon, we had it on tape such a weird disturbing movie

Honestly, try Thumbelina. I remembered it so fondly then I played it for DD. Talk about problematic...

My kids just got into the movie “Ratatouille.” I forgot that Remy (the rat) literally gets shot at by an old lady. Also, I feel like the whole plotline of Linguini being the son Gusteau never knew he had is kind of adult. They literally collect hair samples and run a paternity test.

Re: ET and “penis breath” - my husband and I talked once about how we interpreted that line as kids. I just thought, “Why would someone’s breath smell like a penis? That doesn’t make sense. Huh.” My husband thought it meant someone’s breath smelling like sweaty genitals, because sweat smells bad.

(points to username)

It’s definitely a slur in the US, though it was considered less so during the 2000s. That was the same era when people said “that’s so gay” to mean “that’s so stupid.”

I’ve never heard anyone use “crippled” for a living person. Maybe for fictional characters like Tiny Tim.

Can’t speak as to the UK, but in the US, at least, “retard” has never been a correct term and has always been considered insulting, though “retarded” hasn’t (provided it was being used to describe a person actually diagnosed with mental retardation).

The Steve Martin many fucks scene in Planes, Trains and Automobiles is an excellent scene for children, within reason. They almost certainly know of the word anyway whether you like it or not. Don't forget the end of the scene, where the airport woman says, "oh dear... You're fucked".

It is a good example of suffering the consequence of one's actions as the woman would probably been more inclined to help him if he had kept a civil tongue in his head. That's a teaching moment.

Plus, it's really fucking funny.