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Council spends £8000pa on a taxi due to VAT on private schools

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Iwishicouldflyhigh · 17/02/2025 08:10

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14403627/Labours-VAT-raid-teenage-girl-private-school-council-fund-8-000-taxi-bill.html

So now a place is being taken up in an overscribed school, a 15 year old has had her eduction severely disrupted and the local council has 8k less in the pot.

Well done Labour!!! One of many stories, i'm sure and so predictable.

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Burnoutforever · 17/02/2025 10:32

Andwhoisasking · 17/02/2025 10:31

Those of you scraping information from elsewhere are doxxing and that is illegal. The scraping together of information isn’t. It’s the other offences committed with the intended use. For example to shame or harass. Just a FYI.

She has already put her name and her daughters in the public domain . Even a picture of her in her uniform . Surely they realise people will search them ?

Completelyjo · 17/02/2025 10:33

Andwhoisasking · 17/02/2025 10:31

Those of you scraping information from elsewhere are doxxing and that is illegal. The scraping together of information isn’t. It’s the other offences committed with the intended use. For example to shame or harass. Just a FYI.

Public articles or accounts isn’t illegal or doxxing.
No one is harassing anyone by commenting on an article someone went to the press in order to have it published.

Burnoutforever · 17/02/2025 10:34

If it’s illegal then @mnhq can delete any posts they see fit. I believe that actually if you’re going to do what they have then they need to be open to scrutiny

Beekeepingmum · 17/02/2025 10:34

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I wonder if they are charging VAT on the horse given they seem to have a horse business.

Andwhoisasking · 17/02/2025 10:34

Burnoutforever · 17/02/2025 10:32

She has already put her name and her daughters in the public domain . Even a picture of her in her uniform . Surely they realise people will search them ?

Look up the term doxxing and then you may understand what you’re doing.

Oioisavaloy27 · 17/02/2025 10:34

Burnoutforever · 17/02/2025 10:26

Oh and they have other ponies to sell too!!!!!

Could I ask what job you and your husband do?

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 17/02/2025 10:36

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 17/02/2025 10:30

As I said above, perhaps the policy of not moving children before GCSEs needs looking at.

Why? And which children are you going to apply this to?

Lots of schools also start GCSEs in Y9 - DD's has a 3 year pathway.

Once the council has offered a place and it's been accepted then it is locked in until end of Y11.

Can you imagine the court cases if councils started moving children around from school to school, and the disruption to children's lives and friendships.

Child A moves house and no local place, so council send him 15 miles away and pay for transport. 3 years later local place is available so council decide he must instantly move schools causing potential emotional and educational detriment... the lawyers would have a field day with that!

Washinghanginginthesun · 17/02/2025 10:36

Beekeepingmum · 17/02/2025 10:34

I wonder if they are charging VAT on the horse given they seem to have a horse business.

Ah, so now you are saying children of people who run businesses are not entitled to state education?

Andwhoisasking · 17/02/2025 10:38

Completelyjo · 17/02/2025 10:33

Public articles or accounts isn’t illegal or doxxing.
No one is harassing anyone by commenting on an article someone went to the press in order to have it published.

Yes it is, as I say it’s the offence that goes alongside the doxxing. It comes under harassment and cyber crime laws. People are scraping from her socials to humiliate her here. That is doxxing.

Lovelysummerdays · 17/02/2025 10:38

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 17/02/2025 08:33

Hopefully, the government will learn from this case and introduce means testing for transport in situations like this. This problem is entirely of the parents' own making so they should pay for it.

Surely the council has a responsibility to provide a child a school place? If someone moved in then they’d have to find a spot or provide transport. My view may be skewed as all my children get school transport. Rural community so everyone does. I own/ wfh but most people are in tied cottages belonging to local estate so are farmers/ shepherds/ gamekeepers / beekeepers.

There’s children who attend the local highschool who spend a good two hours getting there every morning on a school bus ( tbf it may be a 45 min drive but the bus obviously stops / does aconvoluted drive to collect the other pupils). There is no other school option closer.

Kingsransom · 17/02/2025 10:38

Andwhoisasking · 17/02/2025 10:34

Look up the term doxxing and then you may understand what you’re doing.

Doxxing refers to sharing private information. Information publically shared (whether on the daily mail or facebook) is public information. The general public are entitled to disagree and comment. This is why we shouldn't be plastering our children over the internet or newspapers.

Burnoutforever · 17/02/2025 10:39

Andwhoisasking · 17/02/2025 10:34

Look up the term doxxing and then you may understand what you’re doing.

Well as I say I wasn’t aware and if it’s illegal @mnhq can delete any posts

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 17/02/2025 10:39

Everything in the story falls apart. But daily mail readers don’t want the truth. They just want her ridiculous sad beliefs confirmed

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 17/02/2025 10:41

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 17/02/2025 10:39

Everything in the story falls apart. But daily mail readers don’t want the truth. They just want her ridiculous sad beliefs confirmed

That doesn't actually matter.

Facts do.

Child was at private school - all costs paid for by parents.

Inept government bring in badly thought out policy...

Net result is £16k a year cost to taxpayer.

Oioisavaloy27 · 17/02/2025 10:41

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 17/02/2025 10:39

Everything in the story falls apart. But daily mail readers don’t want the truth. They just want her ridiculous sad beliefs confirmed

Absolutely and it's so sad that there is a child in the middle of all this who's family are being torn to shreds because they wanted to try and give her a better start in life. Probably from a story lifted off Facebook.

Washinghanginginthesun · 17/02/2025 10:42

Selling a horse, car, flock of sheep, or tins of baked beans for eg £20k does not mean they then will have £20k to spend on something else. They might well have loans or debts to repay out of that money. If they are running a business then they might need to use it to replenish stock, buy lambs, more cars, a young horse…

MrsSunshine2b · 17/02/2025 10:43

Completelyjo · 17/02/2025 08:20

Perhaps your outrage should be at the family who were happy to pay for private schooling but believe it’s the LA’s responsibility to bring their child to school.
A childminder to drop her or the taxi would have still left them with a significant amount of extra cash if the VAT increase was over £3k.
Maybe your rant should be aimed at those bleeding the system dry instead of Labour?

Why should they? They found a solution, which cost the government nothing and involved self-funding their child's education. The government wanted extra money from them on top of the money saved on education. The LA now has responsibility for her education.

Xenia · 17/02/2025 10:43

Labour chose to go in for the politics of envy even if it makes no money out of it. The Sunday Telegraph covers this story about the travel expenses, but I do not subscribe so cannont read the full thing - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/labour-forced-my-daughter-out-of-private-school/
Let us hope the school fees litigation is won.

The court hearings on the VAT issue will be between 1- 3 April 2025 at the high court in London.

https://www.isc.co.uk/media-enquiries/news-press-releases-statements/vat-on-fees-date-set-for-iscs-case-in-the-high-court/

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 17/02/2025 10:44

Oioisavaloy27 · 17/02/2025 10:41

Absolutely and it's so sad that there is a child in the middle of all this who's family are being torn to shreds because they wanted to try and give her a better start in life. Probably from a story lifted off Facebook.

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Didn’t the family choose to go public with their perceived injustice and put their daughters face in the newspapers.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 17/02/2025 10:44

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 17/02/2025 10:36

Why? And which children are you going to apply this to?

Lots of schools also start GCSEs in Y9 - DD's has a 3 year pathway.

Once the council has offered a place and it's been accepted then it is locked in until end of Y11.

Can you imagine the court cases if councils started moving children around from school to school, and the disruption to children's lives and friendships.

Child A moves house and no local place, so council send him 15 miles away and pay for transport. 3 years later local place is available so council decide he must instantly move schools causing potential emotional and educational detriment... the lawyers would have a field day with that!

Well, I would legislate against starting GCSEs earlier in any case. They are supposed to be a 2 year course and we should require schools to provide a broad and balanced education until the end of year 9 instead of gaming the system and forcing children to narrow their option too quickly. But that's a whole other thread.

I do understand that moving children is disruptive, but children do have to move schools for all sorts of reasons and most cope with it perfectly well. As stated, i wouldn't move a child in exam years, but lower down the school, unless there are specific reasons why it would not be suitable for the child to move (e.g. SEN that might make the transition more challenging), I think it's ridiculous for the taxpayer to keep funding thousands of pounds worth of taxis if there is a state school place available in the child's local community.

ProfessionalPirate · 17/02/2025 10:44

Burnoutforever · 17/02/2025 09:54

He’s in security now

I still can’t see where it says that in the linked article, but I will take your word for it. I stand by what I said - this family are far more deserving of state assistance in this matter than many others.

Eight8eight · 17/02/2025 10:45

x2boys · 17/02/2025 10:28

Parents don't pay for special needs schools,private or otherwise, they can cost an eye watering amount

Of course they do. My niece attends an independent specialist school for SEN, fees paid by her parents. VAT has been added to everything, including additional learning support. They are not alone in self funding.

I worked in a different independent SEN school and many of the families paid the fees.

SoapySponge · 17/02/2025 10:45

So basically they cannot really afford all the costs associated with private education for their children and are looking to the local taxpayers to bail them out.

Cheeky fuckers.

The vary last people I blame are the Labour Government.

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 17/02/2025 10:46

Washinghanginginthesun · 17/02/2025 10:42

Selling a horse, car, flock of sheep, or tins of baked beans for eg £20k does not mean they then will have £20k to spend on something else. They might well have loans or debts to repay out of that money. If they are running a business then they might need to use it to replenish stock, buy lambs, more cars, a young horse…

it’s laughable that you think that justifies their behaviour. I feel sorry for the daughter

luckylavender · 17/02/2025 10:46

Daily Fail link of course.

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