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School is asking children to say ‘peace be upon him’ anytime Mohammed is mentioned

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Kitkat189 · 15/02/2025 16:55

My child’s teacher asks the class to always say ‘peace be upon him’ if the prophet Muhammed is mentioned in RE, for example. Used in a sentence it would be something like ‘Muhammad peace be upon him is the founder of Islam’

The teacher explained that this is to show respect to the Muslims in the class.

This is the first time I’ve ever heard of this. Is there an expectation that non Muslims use this expression? Or is it more of a courtesy? I am guessing the latter?

And if it’s the former, should people be compelled to utter this phrase out of respect? To literally wish peace upon a prophet of a religion they don’t belong to? I realise this is not a problem for the majority of people but out of interest, would a devout follower of another religion have objections to this?

(This is year 6, teacher is not Muslim, there is one Muslim in the class whose family are pretty secular, he told the teacher he doesn’t use this expression himself.)

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Mrsdyna · 15/02/2025 18:07

This is awful and so wrong!

RingoJuice · 15/02/2025 18:08

Chunkychips23 · 15/02/2025 18:03

Just because I don’t believe in something, doesn’t mean that I shouldn’t grant something with respect when in the presence of those who do.

As mentioned in a previous post, I was brought up in a very religious household. My Dad is a Reverend - we were brought up to respect everyone else’s religious beliefs, regardless of whether we believe it or not.

It’s something that is not a big deal to someone not religious, but shows respect and tolerance to those that do. Especially as the latter appears to be lacking a lot these days.

That’s your choice.

For me, I’ll not respect a religion that does not respect me (as an atheist female)

Mrsdyna · 15/02/2025 18:08

Leave our kids alone. Did we lose a war that I don't know about?

SerendipityJane · 15/02/2025 18:09

I've been told by Muslim friends that they don't expect non Muslims to say PBUH when mentioning Muhammed.

If that were the case, it would have taken half an hour to say "Good morning" in some offices I have worked in.

HoraceCope · 15/02/2025 18:09

i doubt the teacher actually said that,

SanctusInDistress · 15/02/2025 18:09

it sounds like the teacher is terrified of being seen to say or do the wrong thing which I understand in this day and age where everything seems to be offensive to everybody and it’s an absolute minefield. The other day I was accused of calling somebody fat because I commented that they looked quite squashed in the corner of the train and I offered to swap seat as I was in the aisle.

cocoromo · 15/02/2025 18:09

Hard no.

SwerveCity · 15/02/2025 18:09

Absolutely no way.

LuluBlakey1 · 15/02/2025 18:09

It is all awful- making any child involve themselves in any religion in schoolis appalling. Teaching about religions is one thing- instructed chanting/prayer/ genuflecting or any 'practise' of a religion is unacceptable.Schools should be entirely secular.

HoraceCope · 15/02/2025 18:10

Endofyear · 15/02/2025 17:04

Have you spoken to the teacher? On the face of it, this seems batshit crazy - could your child perhaps misinterpreted what the teacher was saying?

i agree

Deargentlereader12 · 15/02/2025 18:10

Worlds gone mad!

SerendipityJane · 15/02/2025 18:10

Just because I don’t believe in something, doesn’t mean that I shouldn’t grant something with respect when in the presence of those who do.

My respect is based on people and how they act. Not some bollocks about how they are supposed to act (and rarely do).

I guess I'm weird.

SuperTrooper14 · 15/02/2025 18:10

My child’s teacher asks the class to always say ‘peace be upon him’ if the prophet Muhammed is mentioned in RE, for example.

So it's in the context of a lesson that teaches children about different religions and their customs? That's fine.

OP's deliberately baity heading on the other hand is not. It's got posters frothing and disparaging another religion, like kids are being forced to say it in the dinner queue or during PE, when they clearly aren't.

Quercus30 · 15/02/2025 18:11

Winterwonders24 · 15/02/2025 18:05

You can respect without 'going through the motions': personally, I think not just going through the motions us more respectful

Yes but it's not just about respect. It's about learning. And learning is more memorable if you actively engage in the lesson. And so as a teacher, you provide opportunities for children to actively engage in their learning.

Chunkychips23 · 15/02/2025 18:11

Winterwonders24 · 15/02/2025 18:05

You can respect without 'going through the motions': personally, I think not just going through the motions us more respectful

My parents say grace before a meal. I’ll still show respect and partake. It matters to them. ‘Going through the motions’ is respectful to them. When visiting the Vatican I have ensured I am appropriately dressed. I have covered my hair and removed my shoes when visiting a mosque.

I think we have to agree to disagree on this one :)

Upstartled · 15/02/2025 18:11

SuperTrooper14 · 15/02/2025 18:10

My child’s teacher asks the class to always say ‘peace be upon him’ if the prophet Muhammed is mentioned in RE, for example.

So it's in the context of a lesson that teaches children about different religions and their customs? That's fine.

OP's deliberately baity heading on the other hand is not. It's got posters frothing and disparaging another religion, like kids are being forced to say it in the dinner queue or during PE, when they clearly aren't.

You realise that teaching religion, and asking children perform act of worship is different though, right?

Mopsy567 · 15/02/2025 18:13

This is one of those things that is very minor but is always going to get random people out with their pitchforks.

Yes, Muslims say it. No, Muslims do not expect everyone else to say it but the teacher was being MINDFUL and RESPECTFUL about another religion - remember when that was a thing?

For those people saying they would write to the head/ remove DC/ burn down the school or whatever, get a grip. The OPs DC are not going to come home wearing a burka.

Upstartled · 15/02/2025 18:15

It's not mindful or respectful - it's a sham.

Bye77 · 15/02/2025 18:16

ThejoyofNC · 15/02/2025 16:56

It would be a no from me. I doubt they'll show Christianity the same respect.

We say the same for Jesus PBUH and all other Prophet's actually.

LastTrainsEast · 15/02/2025 18:16

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 15/02/2025 17:29

Bullshit. It's not even a Muslim phrase.

Do you want to expand on that as Muslims all over the world disagree with you.

See The Islamic Information Center or just google the phrase

caringcarer · 15/02/2025 18:18

BlueSilverCats · 15/02/2025 17:36

Brainwash them into....?

Worshipping Mohammed.

RainingRoses · 15/02/2025 18:18

All prophets in Islam are followed with PBUH, including Jesus. So if they want to be respectful, then it surely it makes sense to refer to Jesus in the same way, which I suspect they’re not which confirms it’s just a token gesture.

LastTrainsEast · 15/02/2025 18:18

Anonym00se · 15/02/2025 16:58

I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Muslims would also say pbuh after they mention Jesus as well.

That's not out of respect for Christianity, but a reference to their Jesus who is not god but a prophet. Every time you hear it they are denying your god.

mumedu · 15/02/2025 18:18

Anonym00se · 15/02/2025 16:58

I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Muslims would also say pbuh after they mention Jesus as well.

I'm not religious but I think wishing peace upon anybody is a wonderful thing.

OldChinaJug · 15/02/2025 18:19

Winterwonders24 · 15/02/2025 17:56

Or mindless pantomime when done by someone who doesn't believe, that when done by a believer is important to they're expression of beliefs

I taught in a few Catholic primary schools for a few years. I was required to participate fully in all religious aspects, including Mass.

I was required to cross myself with Holy water when I entered, genuflect before entering the pew, recite the rosary and participate fully in all responses during Mass. In one school I was asked why I hadn't taken Communion and they were shocked when I said it was because I wasn't Catholic - apparently I passed really well!

It wasn't a mindless pantomime. It was a requirement of my job and a mark of respect to the staff and pupils for whom it was important.

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