What will happen when the thousands of sacked US federal workers have no wages this month?

[Serpentstooth]

Thousands dismissed. Can someone explain why this is a good thing? There aren't jobs for them to fill. Maybe it'll be fire and re-hire? Surely they can't have prevented their military from being paid? That would be a very bad idea.

Hopefully a movement of extremely angry people will form in opposition to the ridiculous and dangerous Trump regime.

What makes you say there arent jobs for them to fill? The US is a big place, there are over 169 million employed people in the country..one report said there are currently over 7 million available jobs

Chill, they get pay-offs.

Actual it’s until the end of September

I thought it was voluntary redundancy with an 8 month pay package?

There's heaps of jobs in the US, and there will be even more if they deport all the illegal immigrants.

Maybe some of them will wake up to the fact that workers' rights in the US are dog shite!

The US military isn't part of any of the federal worker lay offs and there are a number of government entities that are not included, for example USCIS are not part of this.

Most were offered the voluntary resignation that would offer pay up until Sep IIRC.
A number of the lay offs will be those likely on their probationary periods too.

With anything governmental, they'll work out pretty much the minimum they need to get the output they desire and trim down from there.
So less breathing space for contingencies.

Thank you for replies and explanations. I thought it was all a bit more immediate than it appears that it will be.

I think it is more immediate. Relatively few responded to the stop work now, get paid till September and no money has so far been approved for this. The ones on probation (so I’m the job but still in their probationary period) appear to have been fired wholesale for ‘poor performance’ without any assessment of this - so no payout? And no reference etc

I think it is immediate. There are many many threads on an opposing forum where people are scared shitless. Thousands of people laid off, a promise of payment to September but there seems to be some doubt as to whether this will be honoured, and few genuine jobs. Price hikes with the Trump tariffs imposed, cost of living crisis anyway, etc.

And isn’t the saying if America sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold?

YANBU OP.

Employment rights are notoriously poor in the US.

USAID give food aid - produced by US farmers - to the tune of several billion dollars. Guess those Trump voting farmers are going to be a bit pissed off when they don’t get paid as the food aid’s no longer needed.

Indeed. Musk didn't honour the promised Twitter staff payoffs, so no idea why anyone thinks he'll honour these this time.

And what about their health insurance? Isn't insurance almost always linked to employment in the US?

I can't pretend for one second that I understand what it happening in America at the moment. It has, though, reinforced my view that I would never ever want to live there.

If we all wait for around 2 years, the government completly run out of money, and be unable to pay anyone ….

The same thing as happened to, say, steel workers in the US, I imagine. Between 1980 and 2015, 257,000 jobs were lost in the steel industry there. That's an average of almost 7,500 every single year for 35 years

Repeat for other sectors.

Employment rights are notoriously poor in the US most people are always 2 weeks away from loosing their jobs. I think it is something they have to accept and just get on with.

Musk is doing what Dominic Cummings wanted to do here. Unachievable here, thank god, given the independence of the Courts, which is not the case in US. Disgruntled ex-employees here in UK would have been protected from a rogue government to a great extent. Has Cummings still got influence with the Republican party? Is he involved in this? Or did Elon think it all up alone?

Um...

Per the BBC News website, 11th December 2024
"Savings targets could cost 10,000 civil service jobs"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdek2ygzz8eo.amp

With most jobs/companies health insurance won't commence until the probationary period is complete.

So those who were let go whilst in their probationary period would not have had any employer sponsored health insurance.

For workers past probation, employers set the guidelines for their own health insurance sponsorship. So in most cases it'll expire either on the employees last working day or at the end of the month that the employee stopped working.

They had to immediately leave the premises but legally they are on paid leave pending the paperwork being done then will get severance in line with whatever is agreed. The second wave of firings was put fully on hold pending a court case

Got what they voted for I suppose. Turkeys and Christmas

I’ve never felt so grateful to live in this damp little island as I have since Trump gained power. The comparison with Dominic Cummings is so pertinent - in his case it ended in farce, with Musk, it looks like tragedy.

USA has got the Government it voted in. Must be awful for all the decent, intelligent, more thoughtful, caring, responsible members of the population who are having their lives changed, but it’s the USA’s problem. Sadly the rest of the World has to sit out another few years until a decent option comes along. Fingers crossed nothing really bad kicks off globally. How anyone could vote for Trump beggars belief really, but hey ho, all you need in USA to become President is huge wealth. Morals, decency, honour, intelligence……nah, none of that stuff required. The clowns are in charge of the circus. Going by the state of both him and Biden, they perhaps need to consider putting an age limit on taking up office as well. Some of us remember Reagan’s last term, he was hardly functioning by the end……cup cake anyone?