To think 71 is too old for state pension age?

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This isn't just for people who are 21 now - that's for people born after 1970 - so 55 now. I can't imagine being fit enough to do my job at 71.
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Pensions should be funded by NI contributions. They're sustainable if NI is properly ringfenced and invested but UK governments run a Ponzi scheme, they spend your NI and pass the burden to future generations.

It sort of works if the population and economy keep growing. It fails when birthrate falls and the economy stagnates.

It's not pensioner's fault that government failed to manage the funding crisis that it's irresponsible policy led to.

Ha ha. We had one who had a mobile phone in 1995. We called him the yuppie.

Fucking hell, that's preposterous. My Mum died at 73. DH's Mum was 61. How fucking unfair that you pay your NI contributions all your life and then don't get your money back. What a bloody con.

Realistically you have to be well off to afford to do that

This idea that everyone in their 50s is sitting on a golden nest egg is laughable.

@Meadowfinch I never said otherwise.

I worked for a number of large retail companies but didn’t get a pension before I started teaching in 2007.

This idea that everyone in their 50s is sitting on a golden nest egg is laughable.

Quite.

Especially when the next generation of adults to retire (the ones included in this group) will include those who haven't enjoyed free higher education or houses that could he bought with 3x a single salary.

Parents on both sides of our family were all dead within a few years of this retirement age. So work till you drop.

I voted you are being unreasonable because this is an unrequested report from a small (15 people work there!) think thanks. It is not government policy, it has not been compiled for the DWP, let alone published by them. It's just a small group's opinion, nothing more.

My point is that it is your responsibility. We've all been aware for years that the current model is unsustainable and we will have to work for longer.

I am.

I really don't understand the reliance on state pension.

If you want to retire at a reasonable age and not have the age you recieve state pension dictated to you by the government, make other arrangements. It's pretty simple.

Especially when the next generation of adults to retire (the ones included in this group) will include those who haven't enjoyed free higher education or houses that could he bought with 3x a single salary.

Which is worse again for the generations below them so the idea that "it's ok, they have years to plan for their state pension age moving out" is not going to wash.

I know the average age is rising, but there are still families who never make it to their mid 60s. It's not lifestyle (smoking, drinking), being in the wrong place at the wrong time (car accidents)

A friend's husband and his family all died 63-66 from cardiac arrests. His grandparents had 10 children who had 45-50 children between them. Only two of friend's DH's cousins are still alive and they are the youngest two. Think they are 58.

Im 68 so currently I do get the state pension (last two years) but in the last year one place I worked at closed down and my other job went kaput as well so I would be 68 with no wages and no chance of getting another full time job at my age , so I would be in the position of trying to live on nothing as my partner is already retired and over the threshold for me to be able to claim anything , not a pleasant prospect , I already got stuck in the working 6 more years due to being born in the 1950s

If you want to retire at a reasonable age and not have the age you recieve state pension dictated to you by the government, make other arrangements. It's pretty simple.

Simples!

And, if you do retire and only have the state pension to fund your retirement, it will be a very limited and frugal life you'll be living.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/young-people-leaving-uk-emigrating-abroad-gen-z-b2694046.html#:~:text=In%20a%20separate%20report%20from,were%20considering%20the%20move%20imminently.

I don't think the pension idea will change their minds

The 'boomer'' and before them, the ''silent'' generation had it all! free university tuition, Grants {not needed to be paid back} great NHS, cheap housing in real terms, retired at 60 if female, 65 if male.
Big house near Richmond Park £10,000 in 1971

Yes it's much too old. You won't get any retirement time while you still have the energy to do things.

I think 65 should be the max.

@MoosakaWithFries its not always that simple my partners pension total at retirement was £350000 that equates to £16000 a year taxable (as he gets state pension too ) so not a huge amount of money to live on luckily mortgage free due to him taking pension drawdown but if we had to pay rent that would be over half of his pension just in rent alone , so state and private pension would still only be £16000a year

It definitely too old - I plan to go on benefits before getting my pension. I am not working until I am 71.

You really don't understand that some people can't afford to save a significant enough pension pot to make them not rely on state pension? Are you generally so lacking in imagination?

It will happen. I have no retirement plans. This is what I expect and I will work till I can't. when we can't afford to live if we are both still alive we have a double suicide plan.
My grandparents retired in 1988 age 65 and lived till they were 86 and 90.
Old age pension was only meant to see you through a couple of years of a little crest before you died not 25 plus years.

They were very lucky. They lived above life expectancy. My mum died at 75, my dad at 73.