to think it doesn't really matter what you do when WFH as long as you get the job done?

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When I WFH, I get most of my household tasks done in the day, I will do top up shops, pop to the library to return books etc.

Occasionally I have been to IKEA.

The work gets done. I just do it between life admin and tasks.

I have won an exceptional performance award in the past and my manager told me last week that he wants to nominate me for another.

It depends on the nature of the job of course but it works for me.

No my job can't be outsourced to India because it involves some face to face work along with expertise.

If I have done all my ‘tasks’ there is always plenty of other stuff to do - admin, new business, file sorting, client liason, research for new trends/kit, social media etc etc so it’s not as easy to say oh i have done x, y and z do now i’m going to ikea - i’m being paid to fulfill a role bot just certain tasks

I think you’re being cheeky , to be honest, and it’s threads like thus which will encourage more employers to have their staff back in the office. Putting washing out, fair enough, only takes a few minutes, but a shopping trip to Ikea is an hour or so. If you’re completing your work, then you haven’t got enough work to do, or you’re being overpaid for the numbers of hours you work.

If you're efficient and quick, and have a specific expertise to offer, then go for it.
I guess where you have to be careful will relate to the extent work activity monitoring could come into play (and that means companies literally tracking use of keyboards). That is catching out a lot of people in the US

Quite - people complain about being 'forced back into the office' but the tone of some is almost gleeful as they rush to post about doing anything but work during the working day.

My work comes from the manager and the team. They are very happy with the quality of my work and the speed with which tasks get completed.

Maybe it is cheeky to you but you are not my manager. My manager is nominating me for an exceptional performance award.

My thread will encourage employers to have staff back in the office?? Really?

No plans for monitoring work activity at my workplace. The nature of my work can't be monitored by tracking my keyboard anyway.

There are mouse jigglers available on Amazon and other ways round the tracking 😂

It depends on the job you do. I generally am more focused WFH - I can get my head down at my computer all day without any interruptions, but there are also times when my 'work' is thinking about how to tackle a difficult problem and then for me sitting at my desk is less productive than going and doing something else to clear my head. If I were at work I'd go for a walk around the block, if I'm at home I'll sometimes go for a walk, sometimes do some chores. And tbh the latter - with a longer break from my desk than I'd take if I were in the office - is normally more effective. Meaning I can come back to my desk refreshed and with a good idea of how to approach the task and take less time in total (including the time away from my desk) to actually complete it than if I'd stayed at my desk the whole time.

Luckily, I've generally worked with people who are smart enough to afford people the flexibility to work in the way that best suits them.

But sometimes the job dosent get done properly. I phoned the inland revenue not that long ago
and a guy answered who was trying to juggle a small child and Work. Child was screaming, dog barking on the background. He was actualy
quite rude to me. Talking to others this seems to be an ongoing issue.
I had to end up hanging up on the call as the guy couldn’t hear me.

Seems to me that if someone can do all their household tasks, plus dog walking, shopping trips etc, they are clearly not then also putting in 7.5 hours work as per their contracted hours. Also many WFH seem to think they no longer need to pay for childcare. My DH regularly has problems when in meetings with some WFH colleagues as their kids are running around screaming, dogs barking, or they have to answer the door etc. How selfish and grossly unprofessional. Friends also have had the same experience. Also so many customer service jobs now WFH where you have to wait forever to speak to anyone ( and then hear their kids in the background) . Probably out walking their dogs or strolling round IKEA. WFH has been a godsend to piss takers, of which there are many in these entitled times. No wonder so many companies want employees back in the office.

@Gwenhwyfar call centre so I need my headset on which is on a wire

Seems to me that if someone can do all their household tasks, plus dog walking, shopping trips etc, they are clearly not then also putting in 7.5 hours work as per their contracted hours

They are getting all their work done. So why does it matter to you?

Keith and Jenny in the office aren't working for 7.5h straight either - brew runs, chatting about holidays, nipping to Katie's desk to ask about her wedding plans, sorting a collection for someone's retirement. All this stuff happens in the office too.

No, threads like this don't encourage all of us to make the come back to the office. Quite the opposite, actually - I'm pleased to hear people are enjoying their lives and fitting work around life and trying to force people into the office would be stupid.

The question was about the meaning of the word output and I googled the definition. Nothing to do with working for google.
The Cambridge Dictionary online also defines it as 'amount'.

But if you're wfh, do you still need the headset?

Some people haven't realised that not all work is monkey work where hours in = work out. I'm paid for who I am and what I create, not the hours I put in. Same for my team. Being able to fit our work around our lives is amazing! Good for us, good for the work (we're happy and productive) so it's a win win.

Yes, but people's jobs are different.

@Gwenhwyfar yes - you can't take phone calls without it otherwise you can't hear the person and it also sounds very echoey and faint to the person calling

Your manager needs to give you more work to do.

Why? The role was built and a job description and salary applied. If the OP can achieve it all, to an exceptional standard, in fewer hours than allocated, why should she then ask for more to do?

Someone else in the role may need the full 37 hours per week. She doesn't. The outcome is the same. Or are we at the point of punishing for efficient working?

Have you posted the same anywhere else where you aren't anonymous? I wonder whether your company might decide to give you some more tasks ot ask you to reduce your hours if your work doesn't actually fill your time and you are under utilised. I appreciate what you are doing is good enough to win an award but if you were onsite they would see you weren't at full capacity and fill all those hours where you are doing your own life admin.

No the reality is if onsite they would see she wasn't at capacity and ensure she was. It's always been that way.

Because you are presumably paid to work x amount of hours. Not x amount of tasks.

How would they necessarily see that she's not busy? It's not that easy to tell without very close and intrusive monitoring.

I'm all for the flexibility on a wfh day, put the washing on whilst making a cup of tea, have a supermarket delivery etc. but if you're.m flexing it to the point where you are actually breaching your contract then you only need a change of management before that can come crashing down. The manager now may not be raising any issues but that's not to say the next one would be the same. Those not doing the contract hours on wfh days are stealing from their employers, yes if generally getting your work done then it is unlikely to get pulled up on but as soon as it does get looked at it's an easy one to dismiss someone for.

Those saying the get the work done so it's fine, if you are cutting your contract hours short with all the home and life stuff on wfh days, are you actually getting to the total end of your work to do lists? Genuinely getting to the point you would be sat at your desk with absolutely nothing to do. If so then you are kidding yourselves, as you haven't actually got the work done. You've got an amount of work done that you consider to be enough, but your employer has contracted you to do more hours and hence more work.

Ah another person who tries to get away with slacking.