do you think man calling his baby/toddler fucking idiot in public is abusive to his whole family

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Couple of days ago I was walking in a big Surrey town on a shopping street, early evening around 5.30 pm and a man next to a car told his baby/toddler : what do you want fucking idiot. The child was crying but not in any overdone way, just normal child's crying. The mother or the woman who was there was pretending nothing of that happened and was packing whatever and entering the car

Well no, it's not abusive to his whole family. It's abusive to the baby, yes.

I felt absolutely horrified and terrible. I do not know the people though, just a random town for my weekend shopping trip

This is so so sad 😢

Yeah thats abusive to the baby, not the whole family. It's obviously normal to then since she didn't bat an eye.

It's a horrid way to talk to your kid. I vehemently disapprove!

Why ask the question? Obviously it is.

He's probably exhausted so i can understand snapping, but sharing and being aggressive is no way to behave at all. It suggests he's done worse to the baby's mum as well 😬🥺

It would suggest he's an all round abusive wanker

I'm wondering because I've seen few other examples of such behavior in car parks in England but never thought the woman would just keep quiet. If it was me, that would be fuss there and a divorce

Sounds like my mother when my stepfather was belting me and calling me a useless bastard. She'd just sit there ignoring the whole thing.
Of course it's abusive. It's horrendous.

It’s appalling that a mother doesn’t come to the defence of her own child.

Shocking.
Men who lose it are so strong as well to a child.

Oh god this just makes me so sad to read something like this. The poor little baby, children deserve so much better

Not really, and that's a bit victim-blamey. If he's abusive to a baby, in public, can you imagine what he's doing to her behind closed doors? She clearly needs help.

Its vile. I know someone who referred to his very young baby as a “little fucking cunt” in front of his in-laws and can’t work out why they don’t like him.

It is abusive to the toddler and for all we know the woman treats the child in the same way which was why she showed no reaction. Or she has got used to everyone in the family being treated like that so it's just another Friday.

He probably speaks to her like that too. Likely there will be some element of domestic abuse which makes leaving necessary but not always simple.

I’d guess she’s scared of him so doesn’t speak up.

She’ll either be scared of him or completely dependant/brainwashed. Imagine what he’s like in private if he’s happy being like that in public. Absolutely vile. And Surrey no less! I bet he was some guy in an SUV who thinks he’s a big shot man when he’s actually a pathetic bully.

I think I’d take the number plate and report to social services myself. If I’ve overreacted no harm done. But it’s not ok to treat dc like that. My memory of safeguarding is if in doubt, report.

Next time if they are by their car note the reg plate and report it

The trouble is as a mother if you leave men like his then he gets unsupervised contact and you are not there to protect them. My abusive ex was actually violent to my child that's why I left and he got unsupervised access. For the first few years I was sure the kids would have been better off had i stayed as then I would have been doing most of the parenting and there to step in between them when he was getting violent in response to their irritating cries. Now things are better but only because ex has a new woman doing all the parenting and my kids are not toddlers so know to stop 'winding him up'. Any woman wanting o leave who reads online the stories of other women leaving abuse will know she won't be able to protect her children. People who haven't lived it really do believe the system works and children are protected but that's absolute horse shit.

Take the reg number and report it. That's half of why so many men get contact it's mums word against dad. When I left me ex the people downstairs said to me thank god you left we used to hear him and worry for you and I think why the fuck did they not report it then?! If a mum can prove abuse she has more chance of protecting those kids when she leaves

She's very likely on the receiving end of it too.

If that's how he behaves to that poor baby in public...

I hate if I see things like this because if they talk to their kids like that in public what on earth must it be like behind closed doors.

Obviously 🙄 Jesus wept

Yes. If he does that in public, he likely does much worse behind closed doors.