To think people without kids who use parent and baby spaces are just lazy and selfish!

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local Tesco and nearly every single week I have a run in with someone over this. I am 7 months pregnant and have a 1.5 year old. For me it’s not even about the walking, it’s the extra space at the sides so that i can get the baby in the trolly/pram at the side of the car rather than at the boot where there’s traffic.

i don’t mind if there’s older people who clearly are struggling with mobility but fit, healthy people who park there and not a child in sight. A car actually cut the one way system a few days ago to park in the last mother and baby spot. Was a man on his own, plenty of other spaces in the car park. I wouldn’t even park in them if I don’t have my baby with me. I just think it’s so lazy and selfish.

There already are spaces close, p & c, disabled. What you want is more of both, so just admit that.
The lack of space is not the fault of the 'able-bodied' nor the reproducers, yet you expect the rest of the world to collectively boycott perfectly legitimate spaces.
The Entitlement is strong in this one, Obe Won Kanibi...

What on earth are you gibbering on about? I use neither P&C nor disabled spaces - I don’t need to. But I’m aware that there are people with mobility issues who may not be eligible for either of those. To be just a tad more helpful, I park far from the entrance to allow more space for those who need it more.
Why is that upsetting you so much?

Because then parents wouldn't nip into Tesco and get a few bits. People seem to think carparks are full of boy racers driving erratically at small children. So if faced with supermarket A with no P&C an done with, you're more likely to go there. And then being close to shop gives you the illusion that they care.

They don't. The only reason they are there is to get you to go in the shop, spending money.

What do you do in normal carparks, if which there are many that don't have big bays?

If you read it properly, my post did not accuse you of doing that. Sadly, you seem unable to comprehend that your post, suggesting that those able-bodied people leave the 'normal' spaces that are close to the entrance as some sort of overflow car park for parents and children, is nonsense.
If you had said there should be more p & c and disabled spaces, it would be less offensive than suggesting thhe legitimately parked people without kids or a disabiity park further away.

Do you spend a lot of your day watching supermarket car parks for just such people?
What's the per centage rate of these so-called parking abusers in reltion to those who don't abuse it?

How do you know they are lazy? That's a fuck of an assumption!

I use them for my (fit and fast) teen with severe learning difficulties. no road sense. Supermarket car parks are really tricky so always try to park close to the entrance where we don't have to cross roads. We do not have a BB (despite being on high rate mobility). Appealed and lost it. I just try to keep them safe! Judge away!

They are literally labelled parent and baby??

Again I’m not talking about people who have a valid reason. I’m talking about the people who use them just because they’re lazy. The people who would not be impacted parking a few bays up but are just lazy and selfish

so what?

It's just a courtesy, not an obligation.

Well, how do you know if people have valid reasons or not? You can't tell by looking at my aunt that she actually can't walk that far.

What are your acceptable reasons?

The point is that you don't know.

If you came up to me and my 14yo who looks fit and healthy and had an argument then you could well trigger a fit which takes her days if not weeks to recover from because you feeling emboldened to have a go at random starangers over a sodding parking space.

All the people who are saying that you can't see if someone is disabled: you can see if they a) have a blue badge when you are literally looking at their car or b) have a temporary physical disability that isn't long term enough to get a blue badge.

Honestly, the people on here sometimes!

You’re arguing with yourself and talking nonsense. I’ll leave you to it. Have a good day now.

You can't always tell.

Like what if someone has incontinence issues and the only a quickest space was that one. You'd have no idea. You'd just assume.

Plus WGAF? It's just a car parking space that's a nice convenience. You don't get to park in it and have the convenience? So what?

They are not statutory. People using Blue Badge spaces when they don't have a BB on the other hand are scum. People choose to be a parent, with all the trials and tribulations that brings, disability is not a choice.

many people don't qualify for a BB despite severe needs. It's not as easy as checking a BB. if we had a BB, we would use the BB bays instead.

My 40 year old friend looks like a fit and health male to anyone who doesn’t know him. What they can’t see is the MND diagnosis and the struggles he has just to be staying mobile. He does have a blue badge now but that has only been recently issued. If you saw him getting out of the car on a not too bad day you would NO idea what was going on in his body.

There are all sorts of disabilities which you can't see that don't meet the ridiculous criteria for a blue badge, but may require accessible parking.

"The people on here sometimes" indeed, living in their own world and not giving a shit about those pesky disabled folk needing accessibility.

I really feel for you. I have just been given a blue badge but have spent months with 4 herniated discs, sciatica and many other back issues which means I need my door to be fully opening to exit. I'm also using a wheelchair. The week before my badge arrived my husband wanted to park in either a disabled badge or parent space and I had to beg him not to as I didn't want anyone having a go at us. Even with my wheelchair. Anyway the pressure is off us now but I do feel for those needing the larger spaces to get in and out of a car when they have disabilities which isn't always obvious.

It’s for safety reasons. To get my babies out of car more safely!

Whilst you simultaneously couldn't give a fuck about anyone else's safety, or health, or problems.

So is holding a door open for someone struggling with a pram/wheelchair/kids/bags etc. I don't think yours is an attitude to be proud of.

It's always the same with stuff like this, people say they park in them because they have blue badge or mobility issues. Clearly noone would begrudge anyone a P+C space for this reason, unless they are a complete idiot! At my local supermarket there's about 10 of these spaces very near the door, and when I turn up the people I see returning to them without kids are almost always young, able bodied men who are alone. See also, pregnant women on the tube - noone obviously begrudges others who obviously need to sit down, but when I'm on the Victoria line and it's often men going to do manual jobs with tools with them in the priority seats staring at their phones and not giving them up to pregnant women and the disabled i find it annoying!