Employers hell bent on working in the office full time

[NewDayNewLife25]

Anyone else currently job searching and noticed the same thing?

I'm utterly miserable in my current role which is unfortunate as I've been there for 4 years and use to love it, but a new manager has changed things. I've always worked from home.

Anyway, I've been applying for jobs, mainly remote/hybrid working but also a few office based roles. I always state in my cover letter what I'm looking for, and my address is on my CV too.

A few employers have contacted me, saying that I'm perfect for the role, have all the experience/skills that's required and that they think I would make a great addition to the team. But as soon as I've asked about the working set up, that's it, done. They won't entertain it and decline my application.

I just think it's a shame. I know that they probably have plenty of applications, but surely it's more important to hire the right person, with the right skills and experience. Not just because that person happens to live near the office. Half the time they can't even explain why they need the person in the office. Is it control?

I'm fed up already!

You may be only thinking about you but the company will be thinking about morale for everyone. Why should you have preference?

I couldn’t agree more. I love it when someone says you are being defensive when you have a different viewpoint. I wonder if they teach that at business school?

will there you know the industry location and what is required so well do you for every single job ??? not every job will have 100s people lined up. by the time of offering the job they company will probably have interviewed a good few people and turned majority away ans settled on about two finalists. Once medicals references etc and offer gone through that's about more likely 2 or 3 months time gone by. then person turns it donw second preferred candidate has got another job. then they have to go through the whole rigmarole of interviews again which takes time and cost money

Th is life and that is what happens when you recruit. And you know what the business survives and keeps on going. It really is not the end of the world

It always makes me laugh when someone throws in their education, some line on their senior management experience and psychology when they are posting anonymously online, like everyone is suddenly going to listen to them 🤣

Yes, agreed. Some love to be in the office. Some don’t. Best to offer flexibility, where possible. Win win.

It made me chuckle

maybe ife but if business don't adapt to the changing world they won't survive and then it will be like the end of the world
weather you like it or not

Businesses have survived long enough without your opinion and this maybe shocking but they will continue to survive without it

they also have survived and failed with out your opinion too 😁
shocking to say that on a forum that your allowed to give advice and your opinion 🤣🤣🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

How absolutely childish. All because someone doesn’t agree with you

🤣🤣 your the one who started it. I don't quote you to begin with today so I am not the one being childish
you don't agree with me but chose to keep disagreeing with me 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Again another childish comment. I don’t “start” anything merely disagreed with your opinions We are not in secondary school “staring” anything. And I can keep disagreeing with you if I disagree

Starting anything

Ah you missed this one and didnt quote me. do you need retaining again?
🤣🤣 you started it by quoting me disagreeing with my opinion, which wasnt directed at you in anyway then kept the table tennis back and forth disagreeing with me again
I can keep up the "childish" responses to your disagreeing responses to my opinions

So you agree he gets to decide.

Who said that was the only reason though?
We don't know that, he could have other reasons. But like I said, even of he doesn't, that's his choice.

Same as it's a candidate's choice to take the job or not.

he can decide yes I agree however the two who were not productive didn't happen overnight and he could have dealt with the them individually on a performance plan or even fire them before a complete oh two people are not working properly while wfh let's bring the whole team back to office instead. it's worked now but in the future could fail might have no choice but accept in future

You agree but then say it's best to offer flexibility where possible.

Point is, it's the company who decides whether to offer wfh.

It may seem possible for some companies to do so, but if they choose to have people in, there's not much a candidate can do than accept it or look elsewhere.

If the company fails, it fails.

Loads of companies that do well without a wfh policy.

I can quote you anytime I want to. You unfortunately are the reason why businesses are not offering you wfh or hybrid as much as you would like. Self entitlement is not an attractive feature and it really has t got you anywhere because businesses still aren’t going to listen to you

But you don't know the procedures behind the scenes and whether that's the only reason he brought everyone else back.

Whatever the case, as you agree, he decides.

Not really - even if they're paying rent, not having staff in the office still reduces power bills, insurance etc. And the contracted rental period comes to an end so companies can divest themselves of the bricks and mortar office space. However, many companies are finding staff taking the absolute piss while supposed to be 'working' from home.

yes you can if you want 😁😁🥱
can you explain to me exactly why "I" am the reason why business are not offering me wfh or remote ??🤔
how has it not got me anywhere ? please have a look at my life where I live what stage at my career and my bank balance etc that can tell you it has not got me anywhere ??

no I don't I only went by what you said and probably telling everyone
that two people were not working properly when wfh and decided to bring everyone back to the office
which appears to say a few not performing so instead of dealing with directly let's bring everyone back

I’m not defending anything personal, I have my own business and get to set my own conditions. It’s brilliant. I have no skin in the game, per se, I just have a general irritation with blinkered thinking and would love the UK to have a thriving economy.