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To ask this about abusive parents ?

39 replies

Devilgate · 04/02/2025 19:12

Why do abusive parents behave like they do?

Surely they would know that their behaviour destroys their child’s self confidence.

children who are not self confident are more prone to get themselves into difficult situations thus making the parents life subsequently more difficult in turn?

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ServantsGonnaServe · 04/02/2025 19:48

Because they aren't doing it to you.

They live the definition of a selfish life and usually don't have the cognitive skills to think about reaping what they sow, and when they sow a problem the shrug their shoulders and ignore it.

They literally just care about instant self gratification. It's not about you.

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 04/02/2025 19:49

LittleRedRidingHoody · 04/02/2025 19:17

I'm shocked by how naturally it can come if you grew up with it. I grew up in a very verbally and emotionally abusive environment and I swore DS would never experience the same - thinking it takes a conscious effort. But sometimes something truly awful finds it's way right to the tip of my tongue and I have to bite it back. If I hadn't put in the time/effort/therapy/hours of anxious worrying into exactly how I'd deal with those words if I thought them (Ie never, ever say them) I imagine I could've said plenty without really noticing.

Good point. When my daughter was young and I would brush her hair, everytime she wiggled I had to squash a response to hit her around the head with the brush. I never did but because my mum always did with me it was in me. I was so surprised when the feeling came over me. I’m naturally calm so it was easy to repress but it was there nonetheless.

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 04/02/2025 19:51

Yotoyoto · 04/02/2025 19:24

@LittleRedRidingHoody absolutely agree, and well done for being brave and saying it. I’m the same. I’m in therapy and I’m trying so so hard. I’m not a violent person, at all, I’m a people pleaser, introverted and quiet. Never been in trouble in my life. But with my children, I can feel such rage and that I want to hurt (physically) and punish them. It’s almost dehumanised / disassociated. When I’m pushed to the edge (as all small children do), I want to slam her head into the wall.

I never have, by the way, I’m just saying it’s frightening that it exists somewhere inside of me.

This is so good for what you’re talking about:

https://www.awesomebooks.com/book/9781742377018/buddhism-for-mothers/used

MrsSethGecko · 04/02/2025 20:01

My father enjoys it. He'll be horribly cruel and then laugh at your reaction.
My mother, she just doesn't like to see anyone happy, or having what she thinks is a better time than she is. And again, she enjoys cruelty.

She liked to tell me I could go and play at a friend's house, for example, and when I got back she would scream at me for hours until she was literally frothing at the mouth, about how she'd never said any such thing. I'd made it all up out of selfishness, etc. She'd only stop when I "admitted" it.

Power and cruelty.

Psychoticbreak · 04/02/2025 20:03

Control. Pure and simple. If they knock you so much then belittle you then all you have is them meaning they have more power and control over you as your self esteem is at rock bottom so you cling to them as they are really the insecure ones. It is horrific but it happens. Happened to me, my mum thought she could control me all my life but she could not. I will never do it to my kids. It is abuse.

Thepossibility · 04/02/2025 20:05

My parents are simply very immature people. This means they treat their children like a grumpy 2 yo might, biting when they are frustrated. Or a raging hormonal teen screaming “it's not faaaaiiiir!”
I don't think overall they want to hurt me, more that they are lashing out because they are feeling big feelings. And had no business having children.

Yotoyoto · 04/02/2025 20:11

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 04/02/2025 19:49

Good point. When my daughter was young and I would brush her hair, everytime she wiggled I had to squash a response to hit her around the head with the brush. I never did but because my mum always did with me it was in me. I was so surprised when the feeling came over me. I’m naturally calm so it was easy to repress but it was there nonetheless.

What did you do to get over these feelings? Just squash it down? Did it ever go away and is your relationship with your DC as an adult affected? (Ie did you manage to develop a dynamic without these feelings?)

Devilgate · 04/02/2025 20:16

Thepossibility · 04/02/2025 20:05

My parents are simply very immature people. This means they treat their children like a grumpy 2 yo might, biting when they are frustrated. Or a raging hormonal teen screaming “it's not faaaaiiiir!”
I don't think overall they want to hurt me, more that they are lashing out because they are feeling big feelings. And had no business having children.

Yes I think it was immaturity in my parents as well

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ChiliFiend · 04/02/2025 20:21

I think they were not shown love as children, and they repeat what they know. I would bet very few are thinking about the long term consequences of their parenting in the way you describe.

Togetheragain45 · 04/02/2025 20:21

I really can't imagine how any parent would want to harm their own child. Don't they feel that rush of love when they are born?
But if they have grown up in an atmosphere of violence themselves, I can see why past trauma would make them more susceptible to repeating patterns of behaviour.

Miaowzabella · 04/02/2025 20:45

Some people have no capacity for happiness and resent it in other people.

Orino · 04/02/2025 21:11

OhBow · 04/02/2025 19:38

Jay Reid on youtube explains this extremely well.

I'll have a go: some abusive parents have a mentality where they have to constantly be superior/in control of others, even if their own dc have to take the hit. Especially their dc, as they can't get away.

The fact it might make you a more difficult child (it often doesn't, as a pp said) they couldn't care less, if anything they might get sympathy for that, and even more reason to tear the child down.

Love to anyone else who went through this.

Just listening to him now. Thank you for suggesting.

Happyinarcon · 04/02/2025 21:38

I know with my mum after reading about it, she expected me to act like her parent. She wanted me to focus my energy on how great she was and also be there as an emotional punching bag if she needed to rage at something. She broke my confidence because anything I did which indicated I was going to grow up and be my own person meant I couldn’t be her captive cheerleader.
I don’t even know what it would have been like to have a supportive loving mother and sometimes I look at other mother daughters and wonder

thrive25 · 04/02/2025 22:01

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 04/02/2025 19:21

I think few abusive parents enjoy it. Most have their own trauma or attachment issues which lead to their actions. Not an excuse at all, but definitely a reason.

^ I think this. Emotional immaturity and ‘needing’ their children so they never let you be your own person

There is no excuse though & I think my own Narc parent could have done a lot better

I have been reading ‘adult children of emotionally immature parents’ and it’s helped me a lot

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