Recent study of children joining reception class

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A recent study by kindred2 of a 1000 teachers resulted in finding a quarter of children today joined reception class when still in nappies. Many children are unable to climb a staircase or sit properly on the floor due to lack of exercise & muscle tone. The children used expressions more common in America such as trash & vacation due to excessive screen time. Teachers stated covid is no longer an excuse. They say a lot of this is due to busy parents working & having less time to interact with children & teach them basic skills. Is this a worrying trend.

Wipe your mouth. There's 💩 coming out of it.

Can you link the source please?

I am finding it hard to believe that in a class or 30 - 7 children are in nappies.

I also thought that children had to be able to independently use the loo for H&S reasons - teachers won't change nappies.

Oh please, I'm middle aged and got in trouble as a kid for using 'Amercianisms' and we had 1 TV with 5 channels which I very rarely had use off and no internet etc... on another thread people where clutching pearls over a 9 year old walking alone to a friends house saying it was neglect but we where out and about playing much younger than that.

America has always had an influence through hollywood films, music, books, cartoons, trends etc... for the short window of the day cartoons where on we watched things like Flintstones, Anamaniacs, Scooby-Doo, Looney Tunes and Yogi Bear which are American.

Its hardly new or the results of 'excessive screen time' its always been present.

How sad. It's interesting to see that studies prove the trends that seem obvious.

Whether you both work FT or send your kids to nursery all day, you're rich or poor, live in a mansion or live in cramped social housing...

✅ Don't give your kids touch screen devices
✅ Interact with your children

The solution is easy.

If you look at it from a different angle - in the UK the children are carted off to institutions far too early. Screen time, I agree - this is disgraceful.

This.

there was a thread about it the other week where I said the same thing and was inevitably told I was judgey and unreasonable as "how do I know they don't have autism and the parents aren't able to deal with the meltdowns?!!!"

Erm, no. 99% of the time they're just crap, lazy parents who can't be arsed dealing with a tantrum.

When they say excessive screen times, I imagine they mean excessive screen use by parents more so.I notice parents not interacting with their children nearly everywhere, but scrolling and scrolling.

Funny though both my parents worked in the 80s and I went to childcare. I can use the toilet and climb stairs and so can my sibling. We are perfectly capable adults and have degrees and jobs. But yeh just blame working parents for this… ridiculous

Did you just accuse someone else of being defensive? 😅

My children may have been in nursery but at least their parents can count to 12...

Wtf at all of these earnest claims that children are in for 12 hours a day ..

Nothing smug in my tone at all. I’m just describing the reality of every family I know, like I say no one I know can afford to be a sahp due to housing costs. That includes me.

The way we all have to live now is really hard on families.
housing costs, sky high, both parents working to provide and protect careers, family support non existent or miles away.
life is hard.

I’m not blaming working parents. I’m saying life is hard.
my parents also worked in the 80’s, my grandparents lived round the corner. It was definitely a village. We don’t have the village so much.

I didn’t have grandparents around the corner all mine were dead before I was born. I went to a paid childcare setting. Just making the point I don’t think working is to blame for this plenty of us didn’t grow up with a stay at home parent.

Who would have thought it, removing children TV channels with British content, sure start centres and closing nurseries has lead to this? 😲

Totally unpredictable....
Of course it's not, but here we are, and generational decay will continue, because these kids will grow up with even less skills for adult life than the ones now.

I expect the answer will be to pretend they don't exist, or maybe to admit they do but claim they'll all be diagnosed in the preschool years. Usually the way.

Yeah.

My grandparents were alive but did not do any childcare for various reasons. I was in full time nursery in the 80s and then a childminder after school

I don’t think working parents are to blame either
I don’t think “benefit” parents are to blame either
I don’t think lazy sahp are to blame either.

we’ve lost our village, we’ve lost support.
Life is really hard for families now.

That was unusual where I was, full time nursery didn’t exist. Quite a few mums did child minding which was vaguely regulated. Most used grandparents or if it wasn’t your own grandparents it was Mrs x who lived down the road who did it for a little bit of cash. Whilst school wraparound care wasn’t a thing, there was definitely an army of older retired ladies who’d pick up and just watch your kids for a few hours.
there wasn’t holiday clubs, but it was easy to find childcare that was cheap and unregulated (different times!) there were a few nurseries but they were half days and term times.
the village filled the gap.

I would not be withholding benefits, but have an alternative sanction for parents who have not ensured potty/toilet training for their child before starting school. Including non-resident parents.

It's interesting isn't it more children in nursery's and pre school than ever, being raised by professionals, both parents working is the norm and yet children are starting school less ready than when the norm was for one parent to be a sahp (typically the mother)

I worked in sure start centre when the 2/3 year funding came in, there was so much judgement on sahp, lazy sat on their arse watching Jeremy Kyle. The only thing that could apparently save these children were nurseries.

Some children thrive in childcare, some are better off in it, some would thrive better at home.

Some parents have the support network, skill set , money and health to juggle full time work and family responsibilities and for some it's an impossible juggling act where nothing is getting done well.

Our country should do better at supporting families , one parent should be able to afford to be at home with their children (under 5) if they choose.

Another issue is lack of community , parenting skills were handed down, shared in previous generations. Now everyone is working too hard, services are cut there's no access to support easily.

They’re just looking at the opening hours and assuming the children must be there the entire day.

Where I was (small city in the South East) had plenty of full time nurseries in the 80s. Most of my contemporaries at school had working mothers and I can't off hand think of anyone who had grandparents doing childcare

Regional differences, I guess

Naturally, you will first ensure that access to actually functioning continence services is available to all DC well before this age.

Completely agree

what is right for one family isn’t another and we no longer have that choice of doing what’s right for you and yours.