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ILs and food issues

29 replies

lorrainelorraine · 02/02/2025 11:45

Sorry this is so long but want to avoid a drip feed! For context DH works in NHS health strategy & policy specifically food at present, so he is very interested in reducing UPFs and so am I. We’ve got 2 DC, eldest pre school age youngest not really eating much yet. I make A LOT of our food (for example this week I’ve batch cooked my own stock/bone broth, sausage rolls, pasta sauce as well as breakfast/lunch - pack up for nursery & adults/tea bar one takeaway tea which is pretty average for us). We are far from perfect, and are both a bit overweight as are our families. I try not to demonise food with everything in moderation, as I am acutely aware of how common disordered eating is amongst women. We prefer our kids to eat socially at a table with the family, with sweet stuff offered with or after the main meal (if at all, and mainly fruit). My mum has poor body image but always sheltered us kids from this and tried to instill body positivity in my siblings and I. She also makes most of her own meals and offers in pretty much the same way, with occasional irritating habits around offering chocolate younger than we wanted, but DH and I try to let it go and not to nag as 1. they’re grandparents, it’s kind of the point to spoil GC and 2. we are grateful that both sets of grandparents look after our DC while we are at work. My dad was horrible to my siblings and I when eating, always snapping to sit up straight/ finish our food/ keep mouths closed when chewing and dieted on and off through our childhood with no real results except for a terrible mood, but has made peace and stopped doing this around 15 years ago as we grew up.

My ILs have huge issues around food and have the entire time I’ve known them, my MIL lost most of her teeth through crash dieting and refused to eat in public at all for six months last year including over Christmas which was very distressing to witness, but she doesn’t comment on other people’s food. Their other adult child is very obese with a diagnosed eating disorder. My FIL does however pass judgement on mainly my/ my children’s eating frequently after drinking at parties (they have lots of relatives so we’re often at catered events with standard party/ buffet food and take an 80:20 approach with parties being a 20% exception to our normal eating habits) which is causing me a lot of strain. Consistent snipes about my eldest eating ketchup (FIL doesn’t use sauces), cake, chicken nuggets, then the latest has been turning from my child to focusing on my plate of food. He said something along the lines of “so you’re not ok with DC eating off the sweet trolley, yet you’ll sit there and trough a massive plate of UPFs?”. My DC had fetched a bar of fudge which my husband had already taken off her WITHOUT MY INPUT because it’s too sticky so he was worried about choking and he didn’t want them to be sick with all the sugar. It really upset me but I didn’t manage to respond pithily, so bumbled an answer along the lines of not appreciating comments like that as he’ll give DC a complex, I’ve no fillings so must be doing something reasonably right and perhaps FIL should complain to his family seeing as they have organised the caterers.

How do I deal with this or respond better? I’m really feeling the pressure of sheltering/ defending my children whilst also raising them to love themselves whatever they look like, but to make healthy choices where they can. The world is cruel enough to women and girls, I don’t want them to face judgement from their own family too.

YABU - don’t read so much into it/ let it go with FIL
YANBU - defend yourself and your children

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AgentJohnson · 02/02/2025 11:49

Spend less time in his presence, you won’t change him and your children are your priority.

Fitzcarraldo353 · 02/02/2025 11:49

I wouldn't defend myself but I would tell him that I'm not remotely interested in his input on the matter and to stop making comments. And every single time he made another comment I'd tell him again and walk away (and remove my children from his vicinity) if needs be. I'd move towards not spending any time with him if he refused to stop.

Take control.

username299 · 02/02/2025 11:56

I'm wondering if your FIL is responsible for his wife's eating disorder. God knows what's happening behind closed doors.

You have to shield your children from this prat and his comments. I would start with your husband, explain how upsetting you find FIL comments and you'd like him to have a word.

If husband won't step up, then I'd step in. "Please keep your comments to yourself." If this doesn't help then I'd manage the relationship and lessen contact.

JabbaTheBeachHut · 02/02/2025 11:57

God you all sound so exhausting!

Just eat what you want in moderation. That's the healthiest way both physically and mentally.

Food is supposed to be a pleasure as well as something we need to stay alive.

It all sounds so uptight and miserable.

Stripeyanddotty · 02/02/2025 11:59

I’d pay for childcare.

lorrainelorraine · 02/02/2025 12:01

JabbaTheBeachHut · 02/02/2025 11:57

God you all sound so exhausting!

Just eat what you want in moderation. That's the healthiest way both physically and mentally.

Food is supposed to be a pleasure as well as something we need to stay alive.

It all sounds so uptight and miserable.

Yea I do agree, foods definitely not something I really thought about other than “ooh that’s nice!” or I want to make that until I looked at posting here when these comments started. Appreciate it seems like we’re all obsessed though 😅

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lorrainelorraine · 02/02/2025 12:03

username299 · 02/02/2025 11:56

I'm wondering if your FIL is responsible for his wife's eating disorder. God knows what's happening behind closed doors.

You have to shield your children from this prat and his comments. I would start with your husband, explain how upsetting you find FIL comments and you'd like him to have a word.

If husband won't step up, then I'd step in. "Please keep your comments to yourself." If this doesn't help then I'd manage the relationship and lessen contact.

I think probably yes, he also openly slates women who wear makeup or heels for wasting time/ unpractical so has form for misogyny.

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usser3245343 · 02/02/2025 12:03

I'd suggest that everyone just focuses on themself. I do not understand why your DC are not allowed puddings, or why MIL not eating caused you massive distress or why you're so judgemental of B/SIL's weight etc. You all sound very hard work and over involved in each others meals. Just stop, focus on your little family and try and enjoy your life - and dinner!

lorrainelorraine · 02/02/2025 12:04

Stripeyanddotty · 02/02/2025 11:59

I’d pay for childcare.

Looking to up the nursery hours, however MIL claims we would “break her heart by taking GC away”. Not sure what she thinks is going to happen when they start school 😂

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Lighterlilly · 02/02/2025 12:05

Yeah I’m not sure op. I read that twice. You go for 80/20 rule. Fair enough, but your child had the fudge taken off them, whilst you sat there with a plate of upf’s. He has a point. However he was rude to point it out. He’s saying you’re not consistent and have different rules for you and the kids.

it was a long convuluted post saying how good you are, but it came down to you went out to dinner, didn’t let your kid have a fudge, they’d already got and in their hand, whilst you sat there with what appears a lot of upfs.

he was rude, yes. But he was sniping as your kid had the fudge taken off them. Whilst uou carried on eating unhealthy food.

sometimesmovingforwards · 02/02/2025 12:06

I would just laugh in his face, say jokingly “you crazy old fool” and then change the subject.
If he’s offended or wants to take me to task on what he’s started, then fuck it it’s on, and he’ll get both barrels.

lorrainelorraine · 02/02/2025 12:09

usser3245343 · 02/02/2025 12:03

I'd suggest that everyone just focuses on themself. I do not understand why your DC are not allowed puddings, or why MIL not eating caused you massive distress or why you're so judgemental of B/SIL's weight etc. You all sound very hard work and over involved in each others meals. Just stop, focus on your little family and try and enjoy your life - and dinner!

ive probably worded it wrong, my kids aren’t old enough to ask for puddings specifically, if they do and we have it in the house they can have it if they’ve had a bit of their normal tea.

MIL made herself very ill in the end and was nearly hospitalised. Two weeks later it was Christmas and she just sat at the table refusing all food while the rest of us sat and ate awkwardly, it was very sad and stressful that we couldn’t help her. You’re right I probably have described SIL unkindly, I just feel angry that I’m being judged on my eating but his own kid isn’t.

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AnnaMagnani · 02/02/2025 12:09

FIL just sounds horrid so I'd be trying to spend as little time around him as possible.

MIL clearly hasn't got it in her to leave him but is trying to use your kids to cheer herself up. At least she tries not to inflict her eating issues on others but hasn't succeeded at all

I'd try very hard for meetups with them to be rare and not centred around eating. If you have to go to a party, get very busy speaking to other relatives and try to make sure you don't sit next to them.

MinnieBalloon · 02/02/2025 12:09

lorrainelorraine · 02/02/2025 12:04

Looking to up the nursery hours, however MIL claims we would “break her heart by taking GC away”. Not sure what she thinks is going to happen when they start school 😂

Who cares what she thinks, tbh? This whole attitude around food is toxic.

And this “body positivity” nonsense can be very damaging. We should not be raising children to be happy with their body if they are overweight, because it isn’t healthy.

TishHope · 02/02/2025 12:13

If I were you, Op I would spend next Christmas just your own little family.

lorrainelorraine · 02/02/2025 12:14

Lighterlilly · 02/02/2025 12:05

Yeah I’m not sure op. I read that twice. You go for 80/20 rule. Fair enough, but your child had the fudge taken off them, whilst you sat there with a plate of upf’s. He has a point. However he was rude to point it out. He’s saying you’re not consistent and have different rules for you and the kids.

it was a long convuluted post saying how good you are, but it came down to you went out to dinner, didn’t let your kid have a fudge, they’d already got and in their hand, whilst you sat there with what appears a lot of upfs.

he was rude, yes. But he was sniping as your kid had the fudge taken off them. Whilst uou carried on eating unhealthy food.

Ok thank you, maybe I should look to eat before parties then. Just didn’t want to seem rude by not eating savoury party food, I’ve no issue with DC also eating party food & brought some for her, but DH didn’t think it appropriate to eat something that sugary late at night. I wasn’t there for his intervention with the bloody fudge though.

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AnnaMagnani · 02/02/2025 12:16

If it was your DH that created the fudge issue then you direct FIL to take it up with his son. Every single time.

sometimesmovingforwards · 02/02/2025 12:17

MinnieBalloon · 02/02/2025 12:09

Who cares what she thinks, tbh? This whole attitude around food is toxic.

And this “body positivity” nonsense can be very damaging. We should not be raising children to be happy with their body if they are overweight, because it isn’t healthy.

Agreed.
Encouraging ‘body positivity’ feels lovely in the short term but has done more to damage long term mental health and physical health than fat shaming etc.

Lighterlilly · 02/02/2025 12:18

lorrainelorraine · 02/02/2025 12:14

Ok thank you, maybe I should look to eat before parties then. Just didn’t want to seem rude by not eating savoury party food, I’ve no issue with DC also eating party food & brought some for her, but DH didn’t think it appropriate to eat something that sugary late at night. I wasn’t there for his intervention with the bloody fudge though.

He just had a go over what you were eating and what your kid was allowed. He seemed to think they were not allowed dessert ie something off the sweet trolley, when you were eating upf’s. . And he seemed to think you’d a plate full. If you didn’t agree with your husband you should have said, I’m ok with them eating off the sweet trolley, it was Johnnie who had the issue.

you noth need to be aligned on food. Because honestly it sounds like you’ve both issues too, just in a different way.

food shouldn’t be a battlefield. Kids should be allowed treats now and again, and taking it off the child when they already had it was shitty. You should have said I don’t agree and spoke to your husband about it.

Doloresparton · 02/02/2025 12:23

I think fuck off and myob fil would probably work wonders.
However diplomatically I would be asking if his inlaws had commented on the way his own dc were raised or did they mind their own business like polite people.

lorrainelorraine · 02/02/2025 12:26

Lighterlilly · 02/02/2025 12:18

He just had a go over what you were eating and what your kid was allowed. He seemed to think they were not allowed dessert ie something off the sweet trolley, when you were eating upf’s. . And he seemed to think you’d a plate full. If you didn’t agree with your husband you should have said, I’m ok with them eating off the sweet trolley, it was Johnnie who had the issue.

you noth need to be aligned on food. Because honestly it sounds like you’ve both issues too, just in a different way.

food shouldn’t be a battlefield. Kids should be allowed treats now and again, and taking it off the child when they already had it was shitty. You should have said I don’t agree and spoke to your husband about it.

Yep I agree, trying my hardest to do things right and not let food be a battleground despite being told by every buggar that parents are doing it wrong (no sugar/chocolate/eggs/nuts/seeds/coconut etc in nursery), no sugar at all times or milk at night from the dentist, DH bombarded at work with statistics of obese children that need to be improved… the list goes on!

DH and I try to be united in public as I am very outspoken and he’s felt that I’ve disregarded his opinions before. However I might try redirecting FIL in this way when it comes up again.

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Doloresparton · 02/02/2025 12:26

lorrainelorraine · 02/02/2025 12:14

Ok thank you, maybe I should look to eat before parties then. Just didn’t want to seem rude by not eating savoury party food, I’ve no issue with DC also eating party food & brought some for her, but DH didn’t think it appropriate to eat something that sugary late at night. I wasn’t there for his intervention with the bloody fudge though.

Yes.
You should have pointed out
Dh is over there fil, I think you're speaking to the wrong person here.
He does sound like a misogynistic prat.

FictionalCharacter · 02/02/2025 12:28

lorrainelorraine · 02/02/2025 12:04

Looking to up the nursery hours, however MIL claims we would “break her heart by taking GC away”. Not sure what she thinks is going to happen when they start school 😂

Don't let her emotionally blackmail you. You need to prioritise what's best for your children over pleasing MIL. And what's best for your children, and you, is clearly minimising contact with your awful FIL.

JabbaTheBeachHut · 02/02/2025 12:36

lorrainelorraine · 02/02/2025 12:26

Yep I agree, trying my hardest to do things right and not let food be a battleground despite being told by every buggar that parents are doing it wrong (no sugar/chocolate/eggs/nuts/seeds/coconut etc in nursery), no sugar at all times or milk at night from the dentist, DH bombarded at work with statistics of obese children that need to be improved… the list goes on!

DH and I try to be united in public as I am very outspoken and he’s felt that I’ve disregarded his opinions before. However I might try redirecting FIL in this way when it comes up again.

Your DH's job is in danger of giving your own children issues with food.

Everything in moderation - just keep repeating that over and over.

lorrainelorraine · 02/02/2025 12:37

JabbaTheBeachHut · 02/02/2025 12:36

Your DH's job is in danger of giving your own children issues with food.

Everything in moderation - just keep repeating that over and over.

Thank you for the clear advice

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