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To ask them to organise as a separate group....

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NameChangedForThis1985 · 01/02/2025 09:02

It's my 40th coming up later this year. I had planned to have a party but by the time I'd factored in food/DJ/cake, etc. I was looking at around £1000 and decided I'd much rather put it towards my next holiday! (That was only at a local social club as well).

Instead I said I would have a day out in a big city for my female friends and family. One of the activities I want to do is the same as we did for a friend's hen do last year and everyone absolutely loved it - I now speak regularly to the rest of the girls and we meet up as a group sometimes, I know they'd love to come and do it again for my birthday (the bride is fine with me 'adopting' her group as my own friends by the way).

But because this is my only celebration, and they are a group of approx. 15 to start with, this means the day out will involve around 30 or even 40 people. I'm not sure where I'd even begin to organise (other than getting a coach!) and I don't think the activity/restaurant/bars would allow booking for such a big group - especially as it's December.

Would I be unreasonable to ask the lead hen (an excellent organiser) if she would book their tables, etc. separately? Obviously at the same place and same time, but I feel two tables of 15 ish would be much easier to book and manage. We could probably say nearer the time that oh we've realised some friends have also booked, can we sit next to each other....

It also makes things like deposits, etc. much easier - but I feel like I'm being a bit cheeky!

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TokyoSushi · 01/02/2025 09:06

I think it's too many people for anywhere to accommodate really, can you have smaller separate celebrations with different groups?

GreenPaint1 · 01/02/2025 09:12

Surely you start booking now. If anything places are often more geared up to large bookings in December. Eg 40 people for a work do lunch.
If you get in early you can probably ask for a non turkey Christmas dinner instead. Would prob have to be a set, preprder meal.

Just organise your own do, in the nicest way - happy birthday

ThatMrsM · 01/02/2025 09:22

I wouldn't ask. If it's in December you have loads of time to plan, find out restaurants/bars that can accommodate groups, check whether the activity you really want to do can take big bookings.
To be honest though I think with 30-40 people I'd rather have a party or a couple of smaller celebrations.

BlueMum16 · 01/02/2025 09:24

Organising 10 or 40. It's not different.

Ring the venue. Book a table. Collect deposits

Largestlegocollectionever · 01/02/2025 09:26

No, you’re being a CF

user2848502016 · 01/02/2025 09:31

Yes it is a bit cheeky! I think my friends would describe me as an "excellent organiser" but that doesn't mean I'd want the stress of organising someone else's birthday party.
Why can't you book 2 tables of 15 yourself?
Or find somewhere with a separate room or an area they can reserve for large parties?
If it's December they'll all be geared up for work parties anyway so a group of 40 isn't that unusual.

Plaided · 01/02/2025 09:31

So instead of making one phone call to book a table, you want to make two going through the same details, but not being able to speak to each other to make sure you’re getting the same time, similar area in a restaurant etc.? That sounds like a lot of hard work when it can easily and be better organised through one person.

There will definitely be places that can accommodate you, think of all the work Christmas parties than happen. December is the best time for organising this as most places will have set menus making it easier to split the bill. Just book it early.

Your way sounds overly complicated and annoying for the poor person who has to try and liaise with restaurants in tandem with you.

Catza · 01/02/2025 09:35

So what will happen if one group of 15 books and pays the deposit just for another group to be told the venue is now full? You are being ridiculous. You have 11 months to arrange this booking, the venue either has space for 40 or it doesn't.

JoannaGroats · 01/02/2025 09:56

Why on earth would you expect someone else to organise half your birthday celebration? You could probably do it with a couple of emails!

YoungGunsHavingSomeFunCrazyLadiesKeepEmOnTheRun · 01/02/2025 10:01

That makes it sound like they aren't really welcome in their own right, more like making up the numbers.

If you invited me to something and then asked me to book a separate table I just wouldn't come.

sonjadog · 01/02/2025 10:04

Just book two tables of 15 people each in the restaurant. You can't ask someone else to arrange your birthday party like this.

Mulledjuice · 01/02/2025 10:08

Of course venues with space can handle a booking for 40 people, it's what they gear up for.

but I feel two tables of 15 ish would be much easier to book and manage.
This sounds like a nightmare. Are you going to spend the day/night shuttling between the 2 groups?

We could probably say nearer the time that oh we've realised some friends have also booked, can we sit next to each other.... that would be super annoying for the venue. If you want them together then say upfront.

Why not just do 2 events?

EmpressaurusKittyBella · 01/02/2025 10:09

When one of my friends organised something similar, the place provided a fixed price set menu & asked her to get all the orders in advance, plus details of allergies.

It’s not clear whether you’re paying for everyone - my friend wasn’t & so she asked people to transfer her their share of her bill at the same time, then pay for their drinks individually.

It made things far, far simpler.

FrannyScraps · 01/02/2025 10:13

Jeez you're a CF several times over!

mrsm43s · 01/02/2025 11:15

I would have thought an activity and meal for 30-40 people would cost far more than a party?

In any case, of course you can't ask someone else (that it sounds like you barely know) to do all the running around and organising for you!

It's up to you to make the arrangements for your own party. Pick the number of guests and activities that you can afford and make the arrangements accordingly. Honestly trying to replicate some else's hen do and inviting all their friends along is a bit odd.

NameChangedForThis1985 · 01/02/2025 11:18

mrsm43s · 01/02/2025 11:15

I would have thought an activity and meal for 30-40 people would cost far more than a party?

In any case, of course you can't ask someone else (that it sounds like you barely know) to do all the running around and organising for you!

It's up to you to make the arrangements for your own party. Pick the number of guests and activities that you can afford and make the arrangements accordingly. Honestly trying to replicate some else's hen do and inviting all their friends along is a bit odd.

I'm not paying for them.

And the group basically invited themselves as last time we all met I said I was doing x activity again for my 40th and they literally said 'oh we could make a day of it too'

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DaisyChain505 · 01/02/2025 11:51

No don’t ask other people to book something you’re more than capable of booking.

ThatShyRoseViper · 01/02/2025 11:55

If your birthday party is too big for you to manage it’s a sign it’s, well, too big.

latetothefisting · 01/02/2025 12:42

Yeah, I think it's a bit cheeky, sorry. You could maybe ask them to do the initial checking 'I'm doing X for my birthday with my friends, I know the girls said they'd like to do it again, can you send them a message and let me know how many are definitely in,' but can't expect them to do the whole thing as a separate booking.

I also don't really get the logic of the activity/restaurant refusing one booking of 35 people but being happy to accept two bookings, of 20 and 15 people, at the same time.
If anything, one big booking is surely easier for them to manage than 20 groups of 2 people.

You've got the advantage of time on your side, just start organising early - send a message now saying I know it's way in advance but there are a lot of people coming so we need to book early, but the positive is by the time we get to December we will have forgotten we'll have paid and it will feel like a free night out!

Give people a cut off date to respond and, key, MAKE SURE YOU GET THE FULL AMOUNT IN ADVANCE. That way, if people drop out, it's not your issue to keep ringing and rebooking for different numbers, they just have to accept they've lost the money.

Make a spreadsheet if you want. It doesn't have to be that complicated, just name, tick box for activity, tick box for meal, tick box for coach, although tbh I'd be tempted to just get people to arrange their own transport and say 'we're meeting in X at X time.'

The majority of the stress in organising something is getting people to commit to coming and paying. Once you've done that, even if it takes a month or two now, you can chill for your actual birthday.

I highly doubt that, if presented with a fully paid group booking in February/March, for December, many places will turn you down. They'd probably be delighted!

BBQPete · 01/02/2025 13:11

Why not do it earlier to avoid Christmas ?
a) it's the worst time to go out for a meal as a big party
b) you'll have people dropping out all over when they realise clashes (and illness / tiredness).
Or in January.

Before I get shouted down, 3 of my immediate family always have parties the month after their birthdays, due to either Christmas or August birthdays. It's great to have a couple of months worth of celebrations.

But back to the question, I agree with everyone else, your suggestion is daft.

NameChangedForThis1985 · 01/02/2025 13:28

BBQPete · 01/02/2025 13:11

Why not do it earlier to avoid Christmas ?
a) it's the worst time to go out for a meal as a big party
b) you'll have people dropping out all over when they realise clashes (and illness / tiredness).
Or in January.

Before I get shouted down, 3 of my immediate family always have parties the month after their birthdays, due to either Christmas or August birthdays. It's great to have a couple of months worth of celebrations.

But back to the question, I agree with everyone else, your suggestion is daft.

If I was having a party I'd planned to do it in early November, however the activity that we want to do is a 'festive' special and is only on in December (it will be the first weekend in December as I'm then on holiday for the rest of the month).

I have a holiday booked October 2026 with my closest friends and family to celebrate too so will be at least 11 months of celebrating :)

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