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To think if you are doing a childcare apprenticeship..

73 replies

LycheeBubbleTea · 29/01/2025 21:53

That you should be prepared to do nappies and not refuse to do soiled ones?

OP posts:
VotingForYourself · 29/01/2025 22:15

LycheeBubbleTea · 29/01/2025 22:04

Well, they pull like a disgusted kind of face and shake their head, I think they're just put off by the thought of the poo etc

But they don't actually say anything? And you don't pursue the question?

IdaGlossop · 29/01/2025 22:18

How about saying: 'I know you don't want to change dirty nappies. It's not something any of us particularly looks forward to. But it has to be done. You're not going to be able to finish your apprenticeship and get your qualification unless you find a way of getting rid of whatever block you're struggling with. So you have a choice. Either we talk to x at (training provider). Or work with me to learn how to do it. After all, if you want to work in a nursery, changing nappies is a basic skill. Have a think about it over night and let me know tomorrow.'

StMarie4me · 29/01/2025 22:19

littleluncheon · 29/01/2025 22:03

This is the point of apprenticeships - you are training a (usually) teenager in their first job.

Yeah they will need to do nappies but they might need a lot of support at first.

Apprentices can be up to age 64

An Apprentice who won't do nappies is in the wrong job. Please remember they are paid £6.40/ hr as a minimum.

pinkyredrose · 29/01/2025 22:24

LycheeBubbleTea · 29/01/2025 21:56

No one pissed me off but I have been shadowing an apprentice and they refuse to do any soiled nappies. But it's got to me thinking, surely if you want to work in childcare you need to be prepared for this

How strange! What do they think childcare involves, you can't just pick the bits you want!

pinkyredrose · 29/01/2025 22:26

StMarie4me · 29/01/2025 22:19

Apprentices can be up to age 64

An Apprentice who won't do nappies is in the wrong job. Please remember they are paid £6.40/ hr as a minimum.

Why does Op need to remember their wage? They're an apprentice, they're there to learn.

VotingForYourself · 29/01/2025 22:27

StMarie4me · 29/01/2025 22:19

Apprentices can be up to age 64

An Apprentice who won't do nappies is in the wrong job. Please remember they are paid £6.40/ hr as a minimum.

Why does OP care what they're paid?

Mysterian · 29/01/2025 22:30

You need to tell him it's part of the job and if he won't he needs to leave.

HPandthelastwish · 29/01/2025 22:38

So what things are in place, are they wearing gloves / aprons etc? Practice on a doll first like parents-to-be do.

Sometimes a frank sit down and reminder of expectations is useful. Their attitude is pretty common as what is found in schools since covid and is only going to become worse in the upcoming years. Generally the students who wanted to do childcare were more often then not the less academic girls with generally a poor attitude to learning and I dare say this would carry over to the less enjoyable parts of the apprenticeship. They often had an idealised view of what the course would entail too

PrincessOfPreschool · 30/01/2025 04:10

Chasingsquirrels · 29/01/2025 22:10

At what point did apprentices decide what they do and don't want to do at work and not just do as they are told (and make the decision to leave and find another job if this one isn't what they want)?.

We have apprentices at work - they do what we tell them to do.
My son is an apprentice - he comes home and moans about stuff but at work he does what they tell him.

Have you told this apprentice that this is part of their job and they don't get a choice of refusing?

Edited

Beggars can't be choosers in childcare. It's not easy to find apprentices, especially ones who actually mostly turn up to work.

Guest100 · 30/01/2025 04:18

You need a chat with the apprentice and the director. Find out if this person actually wants the job. If it doesn’t change their attitude you just have them clean all day. Don’t let them do anything with the children. Don’t do any training and write on all the sign off sheets that they aren’t doing any of their tasks. They will leave eventually, or stop carrying on.

AusMumhere · 30/01/2025 04:21

Mysterian · 29/01/2025 22:30

You need to tell him it's part of the job and if he won't he needs to leave.

why are you saying the apprentice is a 'him'?

Monty27 · 30/01/2025 04:26

If a child soils themselves what's she going to do? Call her mum?
Absolutely not fit for purpose.

Monty27 · 30/01/2025 04:28

Posted to early.
Too young and inexperienced so far. I hope training is successful.

1smallhamsterfoot · 30/01/2025 04:30

Why do they get the choice to not do it?

ThatUniqueKoala · 30/01/2025 04:36

Tell them to get on with it or give up their apprenticeship.

Mumof1andacat · 30/01/2025 04:48

Then they fail the apprentice, surely? Do they go to college too? You could contact the college and say what's happening and say the course or placement is in jeopardy because of this.

RedHelenB · 30/01/2025 05:21

LycheeBubbleTea · 29/01/2025 21:59

They are 17, will be 18 in a few months. They have been here a few weeks now so didn't start off with nappies straight away, but they just pull faces and shake their head if it comes up for them to do one

I'd say tough, it's part of the job so do it.

Savemefromwetdog · 30/01/2025 05:23

Yanbu

rwalker · 30/01/2025 05:29

This should be nipped in the bud and it’s part of the job
if they don’t want to do it then they don’t want the job

it’s like having a bus driver who doesn’t want to to drive

claudiaswinklemen · 30/01/2025 06:06

The longer you let him/her get away with not doing them, the harder it will be. Make it one of her/his targets for the week.

persisted · 30/01/2025 06:21

I work with a large number of apprentices and had this conversation yesterday.
'What you want is irrelevant, this is part of your job and we all do things at work we don't want to do. You need to ask if you have questions but you have to do it.'

Indulging them doesn't do them any favours.

VotingForYourself · 30/01/2025 06:22

AusMumhere · 30/01/2025 04:21

why are you saying the apprentice is a 'him'?

Presumably to counter the stereotype of childcare being a women only job

DorothyStorm · 30/01/2025 06:25

This is poor leadership in the training. You dont just get to say no. What happens when they refuse? That is the issue.

Confrontayshunme · 30/01/2025 06:25

When I worked as a TA in nursery/reception, we had a few of those. "I have too strong a gag reflex. I won't be able to do soiled children." This after an interview for an SEN TA for an incontinent child. 🙄But to be fair, they didn't last long anyway.

Thornybush · 30/01/2025 06:38

Ridiculous. I was babysitting and changing nappies from 12 yo. She must plan on being in the after- school room her whole life 🤣 Or maybe she is being pushed into this by her parents. How is she with kids otherwise? Does she actually seem interested in the role? Maybe this will make her reconsider her career options.