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To remind you to check your pension contributions before April 2025.

216 replies

AlisonWhatIsTheMatter · 29/01/2025 20:16

I’ve checked mine and even though I was advised to contract out of SERPS in the late 80s, (currently resting in Phoenix Life) I’m not missing any years of contributions ( I think) my forecast on GOV.UK states I cannot improve my forecast anymore.

I was reminded to check again last night after watching Martin Lewis.

Just a reminder to check your contributions before April 2025 otherwise you might not get another chance to ‘plug in’ any gaps.

I’ve attached my GOV.UK forecast so you can compare what yours states.

If only retirement age was still at 60! I’d have 5 years to go. 😩

To remind you to check your pension contributions before April 2025.
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Charlize43 · 29/01/2025 21:58

I assume if you already have the required 35 years of contribution it would be totally pointless purchasing any missing years, however recent?

I was made redundant during Covid so my recent record is patchy with missing years.

weirdoboelady · 29/01/2025 21:59

LuluBlakey1 · 29/01/2025 21:45

Yes because if you complete them they will count towards the number you need a full contribution from to get a full pension- currently 33 full contribution years- so you'll have 14 complete years and 19 complete years still to pay. If you don't complete them you them, you will have 9 years that count and 24 to pay full contributions from. Surely it is worth paying an extra £800 for a full year than starting again from nothing to pay full years?

I disagree with your advice. The poster is only in their 30's.

You seem to be assuming that pension deductions from your salary - NI contributions - stop when you have completed 35 years' worth of contributions. This is not correct, NI deductions will continue until you reach state pension age (under current rules). If you top up your previous years and you are suddenly unable to work for evermore, it might affect your pension positively. If you continue to work until you are 67, 68 or whatever random ridiculous age the government decides by the time you get there, your partly funded years won't matter at all unless you have not got 35 (or however many years it is by then) fully funded years.

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 22:00

Saracen · 29/01/2025 21:50

Yes, that means you don't have to (and can't) do anything right now. There are no missing years which you are able to top up right now.

It doesn't mean you will definitely get the full state pension, even if the law remains unchanged. It does mean that you are on track to get full state pension, either by working enough years in future or buying extra years in future. Count up the number of full years in your record to see whether you already have 35, or if not, how many more years you'd need to work in order to reach 35.

If you don't end up working enough years to get the full state pension, you'll want to consider buying extra years. But that isn't something you are able to do in advance.

This is not correct advice as the pp has built up years before 2016. The 35 years only applies to people who started paying NI from 2016. If her forecast says she can't increase the forecast anymore then she has enough qualifying years already. People who were already paying NI before 2016 had a recalculation done when the new state pension came in. Some needed less and some needed more than 35 years depending on their circumstances.

weirdoboelady · 29/01/2025 22:00

Charlize43 · 29/01/2025 21:58

I assume if you already have the required 35 years of contribution it would be totally pointless purchasing any missing years, however recent?

I was made redundant during Covid so my recent record is patchy with missing years.

I think that's the whole point of the OP's website link - the website will answer this question for you! (My understanding is that you are correct, but why not check?)

LuluBlakey1 · 29/01/2025 22:03

weirdoboelady · 29/01/2025 21:59

I disagree with your advice. The poster is only in their 30's.

You seem to be assuming that pension deductions from your salary - NI contributions - stop when you have completed 35 years' worth of contributions. This is not correct, NI deductions will continue until you reach state pension age (under current rules). If you top up your previous years and you are suddenly unable to work for evermore, it might affect your pension positively. If you continue to work until you are 67, 68 or whatever random ridiculous age the government decides by the time you get there, your partly funded years won't matter at all unless you have not got 35 (or however many years it is by then) fully funded years.

So surely it is better to have your full years completed as soon as you can complete them- then, as you get older you can choose to work part-time or retire early with a private pension knowing you have a full-state pension contribution paid already when you reach the required age?

hamsandyams · 29/01/2025 22:04

Temporaryname158 · 29/01/2025 20:34

I wish I’d known of this in my 20’s I have my 3 years at university incomplete. Why do they cut it off? Why can’t you pay in for missing years further back? I wish I could.

Missing contributions in your 20s shouldn’t matter, as even at 30 you would expect to have at least 35 working years left to make up the contributions - I knew and didn’t bother topping up as I’ll get enough years anyway so it would have been a waste.

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 22:05

Changingnameagain · 29/01/2025 21:54

Thanks for this OP.

I've just checked mine.
I have 4 payable gaps but the forecast says I will get the max amount per week £220.21 so is there any point paying the gaps? They're a lot of money that I don't have lying about.

If you pay contributions for another 19 years then you will get the full amount. If you were to never pay another NI in your life from this moment on you would get the £106 shown in the screenshot. The amount as it stands will increase with each year you pay NI up to the max. Once you have paid enough years it will say you can't increase your forecast anymore.

PartyOFive · 29/01/2025 22:06

It is the vast numbers of people who do not work, who live on benefits, contribute nothing to the state and leech money out of it who create our issues with the state pension. We can not keep carrying these people.

There are many reasons for our pension problem but I think the main one is people are living longer, so they are receiving their pension for longer. I would need to look up to confirm but since pensions form a large majority of our benefits bill I suspect pensioners are the largest group of welfare recipients in the country. I'm happy to keep carrying these people.

SpunkyAmberReader · 29/01/2025 22:08

Why April 2025?

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 22:09

Charlize43 · 29/01/2025 21:58

I assume if you already have the required 35 years of contribution it would be totally pointless purchasing any missing years, however recent?

I was made redundant during Covid so my recent record is patchy with missing years.

You would need to check your forecast depending on when you started paying NI it could be more or less than 35 years. If your forecast says you cant increase the forecast anymore then you have enough years. If not it will tell you how many more you need.

SpunkyAmberReader · 29/01/2025 22:10

Do you need to do anything to get access to the pension forecast?

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 22:10

LuluBlakey1 · 29/01/2025 22:03

So surely it is better to have your full years completed as soon as you can complete them- then, as you get older you can choose to work part-time or retire early with a private pension knowing you have a full-state pension contribution paid already when you reach the required age?

Not really as the chances are you would end up paying more than you need to. It would be better to pay class 3 at a later date than back fill a year that you might never have needed.

Blinkingbonkers · 29/01/2025 22:11

So - it seems to be telling me that I have 13 years left to pay to get to the full amount BUT I have another 21 years before I hit 68 (& I plan to work) so there’s not much point me paying to make up the missed 5 years at this point - am I right?! Thanks….. I’ve been worrying about this for ages so am really grateful you signposted this @AlisonWhatIsTheMatter !

Likewhatever · 29/01/2025 22:12

I was missing a few years due to unexpectedly taking early retirement. Also I fall into the WASPI group.

I paid £4,800ish to make up the gaps, I’ll make that up in 2 ½ years. From then on I’ll be better off. Definitely worth doing.

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 22:12

SpunkyAmberReader · 29/01/2025 22:10

Do you need to do anything to get access to the pension forecast?

Follow the link in the OP you will need to register for a government gateway account and then you will.have access to everything.

BashfulClam · 29/01/2025 22:12

I have a shortage in 1998/99 but I was at college and not employed. Although it does say as long as I have 4 more full years I’ll get my full pension.

PartyOFive · 29/01/2025 22:13

SpunkyAmberReader · 29/01/2025 22:10

Do you need to do anything to get access to the pension forecast?

Was a while ago I first checked but think you just need to create a government gateway account. It's here https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension

Check your State Pension forecast

Find out how much State Pension you could get (your forecast), when you could get it and how you could increase it

https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension

fashionqueen0123 · 29/01/2025 22:13

Temporaryname158 · 29/01/2025 20:34

I wish I’d known of this in my 20’s I have my 3 years at university incomplete. Why do they cut it off? Why can’t you pay in for missing years further back? I wish I could.

Don’t worry you have loads of time after uni to gain enough years. It wouldn’t be cost effective to plug the gaps for those years.

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 22:13

Blinkingbonkers · 29/01/2025 22:11

So - it seems to be telling me that I have 13 years left to pay to get to the full amount BUT I have another 21 years before I hit 68 (& I plan to work) so there’s not much point me paying to make up the missed 5 years at this point - am I right?! Thanks….. I’ve been worrying about this for ages so am really grateful you signposted this @AlisonWhatIsTheMatter !

Correct, as long as you make NI contributions for 13 years.

AQuickDeathInTexas · 29/01/2025 22:13

Blinkingbonkers · 29/01/2025 22:11

So - it seems to be telling me that I have 13 years left to pay to get to the full amount BUT I have another 21 years before I hit 68 (& I plan to work) so there’s not much point me paying to make up the missed 5 years at this point - am I right?! Thanks….. I’ve been worrying about this for ages so am really grateful you signposted this @AlisonWhatIsTheMatter !

Correct

Cyclingmummy1 · 29/01/2025 22:14

Spicykitten · 29/01/2025 21:23

I cropped those parts out. I’ve paid in for 6 full years (this year is my 7th). 29 years to go, which is a kick in the teeth since I’m shattered already…

Just checking that you know that you don't stop paying once you've got 35 years?

fashionqueen0123 · 29/01/2025 22:15

Blinkingbonkers · 29/01/2025 22:11

So - it seems to be telling me that I have 13 years left to pay to get to the full amount BUT I have another 21 years before I hit 68 (& I plan to work) so there’s not much point me paying to make up the missed 5 years at this point - am I right?! Thanks….. I’ve been worrying about this for ages so am really grateful you signposted this @AlisonWhatIsTheMatter !

Yeah that’s right. It’s not worth paying for gaps to be filled in that situation. It’s more relevant if you don’t have long enough left to work and have gaps.

Cyclingmummy1 · 29/01/2025 22:17

Charlize43 · 29/01/2025 21:58

I assume if you already have the required 35 years of contribution it would be totally pointless purchasing any missing years, however recent?

I was made redundant during Covid so my recent record is patchy with missing years.

Correct.

But when it changed from 30 to 35 years, DH went from being paid up to needing 6 more years.

denhaag · 29/01/2025 22:18

I checked mine last year and plugged a gap (I worked abroad for a few years).
The uk.gov site is refreshingly straightforward.

Thanks OP, this feels like something people think we should all know, but we often don't.

AQuickDeathInTexas · 29/01/2025 22:19

SpunkyAmberReader · 29/01/2025 22:08

Why April 2025?

Because the deadline has already been pushed back twice, at the moment it's April 2025 and then after that you would only be able to pay any missing years going back 6 years.
So it's a limited opportunity to pay for other years.

I understand the reason for the deadline being extended was that there wasn't a system set up for easy payments. It involved phoning a department, potentially being told to phone another department, getting a reference number etc, and basically not enough staff to actually provide the service.