To think Princess Di was killed

[Lavenderfarmcottage]

There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

Well the photos say otherwise!

Well her interview once they were separated said something else.

No but when the boys said at an interview she was supposed to come home earlier but rang them to say she was staying longer you can't help thinking if she had gone home she would have lived

Where's the 'riddle?' I'm not talking about Diana.

But as you present the question:

A defunct 4th in line marrying a mixed raced woman who can comfortably pass for white (lets face it dark skin women have a harder time being accepted so who really knows) does not have as much gravitas as the most famous and influential woman in the world providing a culturally muslim (he apparently said he wasn't muslim but grain of salt) Egyptian step-father and half-sibling with a Spencer lineage to the future heir and spare (as you point out) to the British throne.

A plausible MUSLIM half-sibling to the future King of England and Head of the Anglican Church.

Diana the most famous woman on earth, able to wield strong influence on the future King of England becoming a Muslim icon....effectively a Muslim Princess, her child an important object half Egyptian (in fact typing it, I don't believe she was preggers, she just wouldn't do that to her sons it would be crazy).

Diana possibly controlled by a rich Egyptian well connected Muslim family. The social geopolitics is enough to hurt my head. This now a potential political problem.

I remember reading a book by an Australian Woman Jacqueline Pascarl I think her name is, who was abused by her husband, I think he was Malaysian royalty or something. So she's trapped and she talks about the royal clothing for women being restrictive or something. Diana visits the country wearing a traditional Malaysian attire a certain supposedly less restrictive way. And overnight the centuries old rules on dress are changed because of her. It was something like that. She was very thankful towards Diana effecting this change completely non-deliberately. That how influential Diana was abroad. I cannot imagine her influence had she been naive enough to marry Dodi.

I don't believe she was killed - though I could be compelled to believe it with enough persuasive evidence - but as regards motive, I certainly believe that reason would be enough, hell yes.

No comparison with Harry the spare (his own titled autobiography) not needed anymore, not important marrying a mixed raced American woman whose home country is strongly allied with Britain.

That they were both direct heirs at the time of Diana's death if anything that makes it far more expedient to remove her if she was pregnant for a muslim man.

Of course she wasn't carrying al fayads baby anyway so the conversation is all moot.

My point was only that we really don't know if the RF are greatly accepting of black people as Harry was less important than William so his marriage mattered less. We could only see the truth of the matter had William dated and requested to marry a woman of colour. I don't see what's controversial there.

They did not say that.
The boys said that she rang them and said she would see them tomorrow.

@WoollyRosebud why would they imprison Lady Di in Glamis? I expect you were being ironic with that theory, it seems nuts! The "monster" of glamis, if I understand it was in the line of succession and they couldn't have him ruling. I'm not saying that was justified, I think it's a horrible way to treat someone with a disability, but there would be no such equivalence with Lady Di. She had bulimia, not a deformity, mentally she was capable and she was not in line to inherit the throne.

Exactly! It took me a while to work out he was an alcoholic which I did once he started to hide bottles of alcohol, started to overuse mouthwash and (towards the end) had a red face and nose, especially in the mornings or after a heavy session.

Some of these judgements about the Diana as a mother are totally scurrilous and frankly the lowest of the low. No one here can claim to have any intimate knowledge of this subject.

The facts as we know them however are that she was on holiday with her sons at the end of July after which they were on holiday with their father.

The boys said themselves that the last time they spoke to their mother was the morning of the crash and Diana was actually on her way home to see them when she died.

The journalist Richard Kay spoke to her on the phone the night before the crash and reported that she was in very good spirits but couldn’t wait to see her boys.

Diana said on record that she found it very difficult to find available moments in the boys schedule to holiday with them, where it was safe and protected, with them being away at boarding school, with their father half of the time, and in between their availability for official and private events throughout the year.

So you don’t have to like Diana but please don’t make up really disgusting lies up about her, because tbh, with all of these alternative narratives circulating about her, it makes me more inclined to believe the rumours that it is in the interests of certain parties to damage her reputation post-mortem.

I don't think she disputed that they were happy once.

Alcoholics have liver damage.

Thank you for this.
And this is what I mean when I said that Diana's death allowed people to make up all kinds of things that if she was alive, she could easily dispute.

How have I never seen this! Brilliant.

Charles had mummy, daddy and granny telling him it was time he got married and did his duty to keep the Royal line going. What a burden when he was quite happy having trysts with Camilla in the Royal train in railway sidings.

I disagree. She married the biggest prize for a woman in her circle, I don’t think she loved him at all

They do but that would only show up on a CT scanner which, going back to the post I originally referred to, the lift at The Ritz, Paris didn't appear to have.

She introduced them to her latest shag she’d known 5 minutes after repeatedly humiliating them with her own affairs and airing of dirty laundry. Yes I think that makes her a bit of a shit parent

Ah yes it is sorry! But I think they had been seperated in all but name for some time and certainly had both been shagging around

They were also sexually active, call me old fashioned but I’d find it hard to have sex with someone I hated

The woman who had a very loose relationship with the truth?

Aside from the fact that OF COURSE young boys will be embarrassed by their mum contributing to stories about herself having affairs, one affair meant the paternity her youngest was brought into question for almost 40 years.

Its quite well documented that the boys were embarrassed by her interviews and behaviour too

Thats not made up lies.

Is it something you would do to your children? Bad mouth their dad on national TV and talk about his mistress? Contribute to a book about your extra marital lover?

Diana and Charles did not hate each other. Diana said she was unhappy in the marriage

No one has said he was an alcoholic I don’t think? Just that he was drunk.

Can you actually prove he had no liver damage?

And actually liver damage is built up over time - it doesn’t just go “bang” once someone starts on the road to alcoholism

I really do admire your withstanding all your nonsense but it’s a shame you don’t feel the need to provide any proof or insights into what you claim

I don't think she was killed, I think it was an accident caused by a series of events and bad choices as happens every day, probably every minute across the world.
Drunk driver, driving too fast because of the relationship between the paparazzi and Diana, trying to get away, seatbelt not worn. Probably other factors too. That would be hard to engineer and I genuinely think that with the paparazzi being so close to them when it happened, any story other than what happened would have been really hard to get out and believed.
The world turned on journalists at the time, they'd have not kept quiet or been bought off if they could have directly blamed someone else because what was released and what they saw didn't add up.
I do think there were quite a few people who probably breathed a bit of a guilty sigh of relief. I can't imagine how the RF in general felt on a personal level (excepting W&H obviously) because she did cause them issues but the boys were so obviously distraught and no one wants to see loved members of their family going through something like that.
She was an idol and very loved figure, and symbolised hope I think for a lot of people, and I think that people still struggle today with accepting the loss of that in society, especially in such a senseless and preventable way.

Yes it must have been hard for the boys.
Their father did the same. Bad mouthed their mother, and had several affairs.

Although note the point about James Hewitt and Harry was always an obvious load of nonsense. Harry was born years before Diana and James Hewitt

Lots of people claim he was a functional alcoholic because he was supposedly extremely drunk, and yet there is footage of him easily typing his shoelaces.