To think Princess Di was killed

[Lavenderfarmcottage]

There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

This is the 6am edition. The 6am edition is about Diana being dead. You are confused.

She was one of the most important people in the world at that time

She was one of the most famous people, yes.

Btu she was far from being important in any real sense. She didn't hold any office and wasn't even an official members of the royal family. She was basically a celebrity.

The press speculation is true, but not the pregnancy.

The tabloids were speculating that Diana was pregnant, starting on 20 July 1997, because of this photo. It had been taken a few days before when Diana was staying at Mohammed Al Fayed’s St Tropez villa. The 36 year old mother-of-two Diana had a bloated tummy in her swimsuit. (🙄)

When the photo was taken Diana had met Dodi Al Fayed for the first time literally just days before - he had travelled down from Paris to St Tropez after spending Bastille Day - 14 July - with his fiancée in Paris. So, at most, she had known him for five days when this photo was published.

A visible pregnancy to Dodi at that stage was clearly physically impossible. And, given their relationship was not revealed by the Press until 6 August, there was no speculation of Dodi being the father. It was just misogynistic press stories.
The inquest established categorically that Diana was not pregnant at the time of her death. Because of Mohammed Al Fayed’s stubborn insistence on this, all her friends and medical practitioners were questioned at length about when she had her periods etc (🙄 again). Plus of course the post-mortem confirmed it.

You didn't follow the inquiry did you.

The bar staff at the Ritz testified to how many and what drinks Henri Paul consumed at the bar.

He didn't know he'd be driving later. His days work was done he thought, so he kicked back.

When Dodi came up with the last minute plan for Henri to drive (and don't forget he was Head of Security, NOT a trained chauffeur) Henri didn't 'fess up to having drunk several Pastis.

He was thrilled to be a "player" in the scene and teased the paparazzi "You'll never catch me".

Read the inquiry transcript.

True!

My friend's mum was a full on alcoholic and it killed her. She worked as a midwife, full time, delivering babies right up until a few weeks before she died and no one had a clue, including my friend, (though I think she must have been wilfully blind), until she was blue lighted to hospital and the doctors gave everyone the real lowdown. She had been attending consultant appointments secretly and continued working and doing home visits even when her liver was shutting down. She never made a mistake in her work. She never appeared inebriated to me, ever. Always together and ultra stylish.

The mind boggles.

It was most definitely on the turn.

The rumour was started by Fayed who for some reason made Dodi and Diana’s relationship something it wasn’t

@Emilyontmoor
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/newspaper-princess-diana-death-sunday-267543187

Link this time to 6 am edition. As I said you are confused. Your story sounds like one written two years after Dianas death when an author published a book about Diana alleging what you have said.

And yet they gave their blessing for Harry to marry a mixed race woman without a second though

I can assure you that much as I was not a fan of Diana (or had any strong opinion either way) that day was very memorable. My husband woke me in the early hours. We had driven up from holiday in the south of France the previous day where we had witnessed from the hills above the coast the complete circus of helicopters and boats around Fayed’s yacht. It was my Mum who later showed me the article when they came round to see their grandchildren and the irony was certainly not lost on me.

No choice, you can’t arrange a second fatal French car crash. People would start to ask questions.

Her popularity was not on the wane. Go back and read the newspapers and magazines in the weeks and months before her death and you will see that.
I do not know where the rumour came from that she was pregnant, but lots of papers covered it. You do not know where the rumour comes from either.

I doubt very much it was the 6am edition being delivered to a North Yorkshire village at 6am……

🤣🤣🤣

Thanks for that!

No one said it was delivered at 6am. Not sure what you are on about?
I will check it on newspaper archive as well.

The bar staff at the Ritz testified to how many and what drinks Henri Paul consumed at the bar.
He didn't know he'd be driving later. His days work was done he thought, so he kicked back

Exactly this - all this evidence came out in the Paget enquiry and inquest.

The bar receipts and CCTV from the Ritz show that Henri Paul had consumed 100ml of 45% ABV pastis in the hotel bar and an unknown quantity of alcohol before arriving at the Ritz at 10pm (he had finished his shift earlier that evening, gone home visited his local and had a drink or two, then got called back to the Ritz because he was Head of Security there and the Boss’ son and Princess Diana had showed up unexpectedly).

The pastis is equivalent to around two double whiskeys. The (two) autopsy toxicology results were heavily scrutinised and experts were of the view that he’ probably had 5 drinks overall.

I don’t think it was suggested that he was visibly intoxicated, but that he had drunk well above the legal limit, and therefore was likely to be more reckless and with slower reaction times due to the alcohol in his system. This matters when you drive down a slight incline into a narrow tunnel at 70mph rather than 30mph.

@Emilyontmoor I was in Scotland and saw an early edition newspaper saying she was dead. It was how I found out about her death. Later edition had much more details.

Well I guess all they had to do was make the back seatbelts unusable. Then the car chase.

But it’s still massively far fetched

I am saying that my parents newspapers are delivered at 6am! So presumably it was the overnight edition. I remember discussing the article that day with a friend in Northern Ireland. I can also assure you that I was not especially interested in reading about Diana two years later, or at least not to have bothered to commit anything I read to memory!

I was very much Team Diana & not Charles. It was a tragedy caused by a drunk driver, Dodi's ego, a lack of seatbelts & her security being taken away.
However she was clearly flawed. I've often thought she'd have been a very difficult MIL.

It wasn't "convenient" for them at all. It almost finished them off. The period around Diana's death is THE least popular I have EVER remembered them being.

Camilla had to keep a low profile for ages because of it. She had members of the public throwing things at her. Charles thought he was going to be assassinated. He redeemed himself somewhat in people's eyes by going to get Diana's coffin. But people do remember the Earl Spencer funeral speech which was very anti the Royal family and a lot of the crowds there for it were very much of that mindset at the time. It took quite a while for them to get back to popularity and there was no guarantee that they would at the time.

I do think Chuck and Camilla would have gone on to marry, yes, eventually. Him and Diana were divorced after all. Diana would have been headlines for a bit, probably starting to fight the press a bit in the same vein as Harry. then gone and married someone wealthy and lived a glamorous life. I think she'd probably have re-emerged in the press as being in "feuds" with her son's wives, so we'd have had that for a bit, I expect.

James Bond is a fictional piece of work not a documentary

Snap! My thoughts exactly (MIL)

At the inquiry it was brought up why cameras were facing away from the road and tunnel, and it was established that the cameras were installed to face residences for THEIR security, nothing to do with roads or traffic.

I do wish more conspiracy theorists bothered to read witness and expert accounts before positing the same shite over and over and over again.

Every year thousands die in RTA's. Being rich, famous, beautiful, thin, Royal, Powerful, handsome or having a massive IQ will not protect you if your car hits a concrete pillar at +65mph and you're not wearing a seat belt.

Her HRH was taken away but her security wasn't. Diana still had her Royal Protection Officers, which she chose to give up.

It absolutely was.

As for the pregnancy rumours published by the press, given she’d only known Dodi for a matter of days and so it wasn’t possible that she would be visibly pregnant by him, I suspect the next rumour would have been to question who the father was.

Can you imagine if she’d posted on MN?

”I’ve slept with several married men over the years. AIBU to have sent threatening voicemails to one of my BFs’ wives? Oh, and my latest bf was engaged, AIBU not to care and to flaunt my relationship with him so publicly?”

If she’d been an actual MN’er she would have been actively despised because of the person she was.

You only have to look at how OW are reacted to on here, and she was a serial OW.