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How many jobs per week am I expected to apply for on universal credit

208 replies

jisak · 27/01/2025 20:25

My youngest has turned 3 so I am now looking for work. It's my first meeting tomorrow to check im doing my commitments.

I can only work 10 hours per week. I've applied for 15 jobs so far

How many should I be applying for?

It is hard to find many 10 hour jobs in my local area and within school hours. I can also only travel 20 mins agreed with my work coach

I'm so scared I get sanctioned

OP posts:
moshmoshi · 28/01/2025 09:40

OP have you thought about an AAT qualification, this might enable you to do bookkeeping work part-time (and possibly from home) whilst your DC is little and build up to a better paid accountancy job in the future. You might be able to get this funded and study evenings at a local college or online. Or similar with a paralegal and building to becoming a solicitor though paralegal work might not be so flexible. It sounds like you are bright and capable so might be worth making steps towards a future career.

Kitte321 · 28/01/2025 09:42

Nousernameforme · 28/01/2025 09:35

I don't despise the working parents.
I will repeat myself however that it costs the government far more in tax payers money to pay for someone else to look after the child.

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/116231/pdf/

have a read. Funding childcare can unlock 28 billion.

thatsgotit · 28/01/2025 09:44

Snowy7 · 28/01/2025 09:09

Well, OP cannot afford to stay at home without being funded by all this mum's who are, going off your post, 'shunting' their DC off in the name of paying tax and funding the work shy like OP.

nobody is saying mums cannot be with their DC but if they haven't got the money, they will just need to work.

it's also very offensive to state that working parents are 'shunting their DC off to every Tom, Dick and Harry' . What a cuntish post.

Oh, just stop it. Yes, OP probably needs to adjust her expectations of what's realistic, but 'workshy' people typically don't create threads that relate to job searching. Especially not if they know what a snake pit Mumsnet can be.

I'm sensing more than a touch of bitterness in your posts. Labelling a mother workshy because she'd like to find a way to make work fit around being with her DC if possible. I hope you don't call yourself a feminist.

littleluncheon · 28/01/2025 09:44

So many silly comments on this thread.

The OP has 15 hours of childcare available, so she needs to find work within those hours.

She can't put her child into nursery full time while she's job hunting - she doesn't have any money.

Anyone who is jealous of the OP being at home with her child or only working part time is completely free to quit their job, leave their husband and live in poverty.

SharpOpalNewt · 28/01/2025 09:46

Kitte321 · 28/01/2025 09:42

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/116231/pdf/

have a read. Funding childcare can unlock 28 billion.

I think @Nousernameforme may have forgotten to factor in the larger income tax take produced by mothers being able to work more hours.

Bankin · 28/01/2025 09:47

IVFmumoftwo · 28/01/2025 09:11

There is a lot of jealousy on here.

Whether it's benefits or being a stay at home mum with a husband that pays for everything it seems to bring out a lot of anger on here. I think some do resent putting their children in child care for long hours.

The fact that Sahms with husbands that provide attract similar vitriol is proof that it's not just about how they feel their taxes are wasted

Praying4Peace · 28/01/2025 09:51

IzzyHandsIsMySpiritAnimal · 28/01/2025 07:55

When my sibling did this, they had the grand sum of £10 per week left after paying bills and shopping for food.

Thank you but that's the reality of being a FT working parent. I talk from experience.

Blankscreen · 28/01/2025 09:53

I think the issue here is most families need both parents working and people who perceived that they have done the 'right' thing find that they are both having to work full time just to get by.

Lots of parents (not all) would love to be a sty at home parent or work less hours but their finances/career choices don't allow it.

It therefore feels 'unfair' when someone gets funded by the taxpayer to have that luxury and get away with working 10 hours a WEEK!

Some people are doing more than that in a single shift.

There are 000s or arguments for each side about what is best for the children re childcare etc but based on emotion its what feels fair.

Just the way in which the OP is written implies she doesn't want to get job.

The problem is the workers can only afford to pay so much tax and the country can't afford to have as many people out of work.

I think Labour is going to implement some pretty sharp changes.

peachystormy · 28/01/2025 09:53

@Parker231 why is that any of your business? Oh wait it's not

Praying4Peace · 28/01/2025 09:55

littleluncheon · 28/01/2025 09:44

So many silly comments on this thread.

The OP has 15 hours of childcare available, so she needs to find work within those hours.

She can't put her child into nursery full time while she's job hunting - she doesn't have any money.

Anyone who is jealous of the OP being at home with her child or only working part time is completely free to quit their job, leave their husband and live in poverty.

I know people who are better off financially on benefits than those in FT work, that's a fact and what is perceived as unfair by many, understandably so.
As for living in poverty, the people I know on benefits live comfortable lives.

littleluncheon · 28/01/2025 09:59

Praying4Peace · 28/01/2025 09:55

I know people who are better off financially on benefits than those in FT work, that's a fact and what is perceived as unfair by many, understandably so.
As for living in poverty, the people I know on benefits live comfortable lives.

Go for it then, no one is stopping you.

Praying4Peace · 28/01/2025 10:02

littleluncheon · 28/01/2025 09:59

Go for it then, no one is stopping you.

I wouldn't want to do that. I'm simply stating a fact.
FWIW, I raised my child as a single parent and always worked FT to support. From my perspective I couldn't afford to work PT. I appreciate that we are all different and each to their own

Bankin · 28/01/2025 10:05

Praying4Peace · 28/01/2025 09:55

I know people who are better off financially on benefits than those in FT work, that's a fact and what is perceived as unfair by many, understandably so.
As for living in poverty, the people I know on benefits live comfortable lives.

That's bullshit that I always read on here I was unemployed in Covid and had to claim benefits. Now I work full-time and even though it's only minimum wage definitely have a lot more money

Praying4Peace · 28/01/2025 10:07

Bankin · 28/01/2025 10:05

That's bullshit that I always read on here I was unemployed in Covid and had to claim benefits. Now I work full-time and even though it's only minimum wage definitely have a lot more money

Thank you but that's not been my experience

Grammarnut · 28/01/2025 10:08

BunfightBetty · 28/01/2025 09:26

Yes, and resentment too - 'we had to, so why shouldn't OP'.

There is a societal-level issue here, where the high cost of living and wage stagnation has forced more and more families to need both parents working full time, long hours, with commutes and high stress. This is, in most cases, not the best set up for the wellbeing of any of the family members, least of all for the tiny children, who have to spend long hours per week in childcare away from their main caregiver, during a fundamental time for their psychological and emotional development.

It wasn't so long ago that families could afford to buy a modest 3 bed house on one middling wage, and have a reasonable lifestyle, with time for rest and recreation and one parent to be spending time nurturing the children. Not any more. Now both parents are out full time, families are incredibly squeezed. That's a problem.

For OP, we don't know why she needs to only work 10 hours, so jumping down her throat, quick to condemn, is rather premature.

According to OP her work coach has told her this is the maximum because of childcare. Seems reasonable.

littleluncheon · 28/01/2025 10:11

Praying4Peace · 28/01/2025 10:02

I wouldn't want to do that. I'm simply stating a fact.
FWIW, I raised my child as a single parent and always worked FT to support. From my perspective I couldn't afford to work PT. I appreciate that we are all different and each to their own

Funny isn't it - no one actually wants to leave their husband or job so they can be a single mum on benefits. But at the same time they just want to be able to hate single mums on benefits for somehow being better off than them.

Bankin · 28/01/2025 10:15

Praying4Peace · 28/01/2025 10:07

Thank you but that's not been my experience

Can you explain your experience? When I was unemployed in covid the universal credit was only 400-500 a month after paying the rent (just the rent not the bills) and that was with one child. Now I work full-time and even with minimum wage am a lot better off. Hence I don't see how your experience can be true

MsVi · 28/01/2025 10:18

jisak · 28/01/2025 09:24

@Tubetrain this is exactly what happened to me. I was at uni doing law and met the kids dad he is extremely abusive and made me leave uni.

I'm terrified he hears from someone I'm working because he will find away to ruin it for me and have me trapped once again with no income.

I'm extremely grateful for the governments benefit system as without it I'd not have been able to feed my kids. But it is only temporary in a few years time with my degree or with my school qualifications (I did really well at school and got the dux) I can have a good job with a good income. I never thought this would happen to me but it has. I never intended on getting into an abusive relationship but it happened.

I have extreme anxiety as a result of this so getting work has been made even harder for myself. I am so worried from friends of friends or since it's a small area he finds out about me working and ruins it for me.

I know it isn't everybody's first choice but could you do some cleaning or a few hours in a care home to work around nursery.

Vettrianofan · 28/01/2025 10:20

caringcarer · 28/01/2025 00:25

This. I thought if a child was over 3 the parents had to work 16 hours a week or spend that time searching for work and document your efforts.

I study part time with the OU and I have DC aged 17, 14, 9 and 7. I am also in receipt of Carer's Allowance and various other benefits. My point being I have never been asked to look for work.

Pickledpoppetpickle · 28/01/2025 10:24

Being in work has many positive benefits and will open new doors. We can’t keep thinking working is optional

OP isn't thinking of work as optional, is she? At no point has she said she won't work. Until we have 24 hour a day childcare as standard and non-resident parents are forced to financially support their children, there will be very many women out there who struggle to work full time.

As for opening doors, sure, it does. But frequently those doors are slammed in your face if you are unable to attend early/late meetings, not able to work weekends, don't have your own transport etc. etc. etc.

And whilst I have some pension as a result of all the work I have done as a single parent, I genuinely don't think it was worth it in terms of my children's mental health and long-term security. And I won't be living the high life as a single person on a very average wage. I'll be lucky if I stay afloat.

LostTheMarble · 28/01/2025 10:28

Praying4Peace · 28/01/2025 10:07

Thank you but that's not been my experience

What is your experience? Living on benefits with no additional factors? Because as a parent of high needs children, on paper my household income isn’t on the breadline. If there were no extenuating circumstance, I’d absolutely be scraping by every month living only on UC. I know because before our youngest was born, both me and my partner were made redundant. The following year or so was the toughest (and at times most humiliating) of my life financially. So would you like to expand on your experience?

Miaowzabella · 28/01/2025 10:33

WhiteLily1 · 28/01/2025 08:54

Perhaps they actually want to spend time with their baby and small kids, raise them themselves rather than shunting them off to every Tom dick and harry for the working week?
Jesus what’s happened to the world that mothers can’t actually be with their babies and toddlers anymore without being called a shirker.

If 'they' want the full tradwife setup, they need to find a man who is both able and willing to finance it. It is not the taxpayer's role to do so.

thatsalad · 28/01/2025 10:36

When I was on UC, they never asked me how much jobs I've applied for. They just ask how is the job search going and do I have any job interviews coming up. You'll be fine op

Bankin · 28/01/2025 10:40

Bankin · 28/01/2025 10:15

Can you explain your experience? When I was unemployed in covid the universal credit was only 400-500 a month after paying the rent (just the rent not the bills) and that was with one child. Now I work full-time and even with minimum wage am a lot better off. Hence I don't see how your experience can be true

And this is with a nice guy landlord who charged reasonable rent. There's a limit to how much welfare helps pay your rent and most people would have to cut into their 400-500 meant for everything else in that situation. I Don't believe the poster who claims to know people better off on welfare than working, sorry

maddening · 28/01/2025 10:45

I would ask your coach how it works if you go back to your studies - I think now would be a great opportunity to get yourself back on track - and then you can build your career once the dc are in school.

For 10 hours a week you could consider cleaning - you can find slots that work around childcare and studies.

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