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PC taking role too far

35 replies

TheMumEdit · 27/01/2025 12:52

I’m new to school life but accept most have parent councils. They do a great job. I’m surprised however how much they seem to control. Regular emails come from
them via the school office which I don’t think is appropriate. It’s a constant money grab. It’s of course voluntary but worded to make you feel terrible if you don’t contribute.

Today we got an email telling us of the acceptable use policy for their WA group - I’m astonished they took the time to even think this was necessary. Two pages of rules . The wa group runs well with a few little disagreements but nothing out of the usual. We’ve now been told that questions should only be answered by PC members and no general chat. Completely ignoring the fact that in the last week alone two of the PC gave wrong info!!! But under these rules we’ve to let it be!!

Are all PC’s this rigid ? I feel they suck the fun right out of what was a good idea. The chat is not formally ran by the school so no idea why the school agreed to send the message with the rules.

OP posts:
Love51 · 27/01/2025 16:56

What fresh hell is this?
What country are you in? What phase of education?

They were not ignoring the response to wrong information. They were responding to it! Badly.

aprayeratatime · 27/01/2025 17:01

Praise the Lord we are home ed now and all these losers are behind my ass

CatsWhiskerz · 27/01/2025 17:31

They want to control you using WhatsApp?

CatsWhiskerz · 27/01/2025 17:37

Also is PC just parents?
I'd be inclined to tell them to do one and remove all these overly controlling twatty parents involved in the parents WhatsApp

TheMumEdit · 27/01/2025 18:32

It’s only parent on the chat. Primary in the UK so age 4-11 roughly

OP posts:
TheMumEdit · 27/01/2025 18:41

Extract:

Relevant and Concise Messaging

  • Keep messages relevant to the group's purpose. Unrelated topics or personal conversations should be taken to private messages.
  • Limit the use of "latent texts," such as single-word responses (e.g., "OK,"
  • "Thanks"), emojis, or short acknowledgments that do not contribute to the conversation. These messages can clutter the chat and make it harder for members to follow important updates.
  • If you want to acknowledge a message, consider using the "like" or "react" feature instead of sending a new message.
  1. Announcements and Notifications
  • When sharing important information or announcements, please ensure that the details are clear and concise.
  • Avoid repeating information unless necessary. This helps to keep the chat organized and prevents information overload.
  1. Timing of Messages
  • Be mindful of the time when sending messages. Unless it is urgent, please avoid sending messages late at night or early in the morning.
  • Consider the impact of notifications on other members, especially during weekends and holidays.
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OneDenimRobin · 27/01/2025 18:45

It’s their WA group. You can always set up a casual one if you want a general chat.

APurpleSquirrel · 27/01/2025 18:47

Is the Parent Council equivalent to a PTA?

TheMumEdit · 27/01/2025 18:49

”they” are parents. Who come and go as their children leave the school. The last elected have done an amazing job but sadly this lot are controlling to the point what was a lovely group has been overshadowed

OP posts:
TheMumEdit · 27/01/2025 18:49

APurpleSquirrel · 27/01/2025 18:47

Is the Parent Council equivalent to a PTA?

Yes. It’s the same thing but just parents so no teachers

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HPandthelastwish · 27/01/2025 18:50

This is what happens when high powered career women give it all up and become SAHM, they start treating their children's lives and the part they play in it as if it's a formal workplace.

TheMumEdit · 27/01/2025 18:53

HPandthelastwish · 27/01/2025 18:50

This is what happens when high powered career women give it all up and become SAHM, they start treating their children's lives and the part they play in it as if it's a formal workplace.

I can’t believe you said this as I almost put that in. It’s so true . around 90% of those on the council are SAHM but no children at home and struggling to integrate back in.
I don’t have any issue with SAHM but seems a big coincidence

OP posts:
MindfulAndDemure · 27/01/2025 20:15

TheMumEdit · 27/01/2025 18:41

Extract:

Relevant and Concise Messaging

  • Keep messages relevant to the group's purpose. Unrelated topics or personal conversations should be taken to private messages.
  • Limit the use of "latent texts," such as single-word responses (e.g., "OK,"
  • "Thanks"), emojis, or short acknowledgments that do not contribute to the conversation. These messages can clutter the chat and make it harder for members to follow important updates.
  • If you want to acknowledge a message, consider using the "like" or "react" feature instead of sending a new message.
  1. Announcements and Notifications
  • When sharing important information or announcements, please ensure that the details are clear and concise.
  • Avoid repeating information unless necessary. This helps to keep the chat organized and prevents information overload.
  1. Timing of Messages
  • Be mindful of the time when sending messages. Unless it is urgent, please avoid sending messages late at night or early in the morning.
  • Consider the impact of notifications on other members, especially during weekends and holidays.

I was with you.. but then I read this and thought, yeah, I'd prefer this actually. Keep it concise and info based, then have chats for individual friendship groups if you want.

chargeitup · 27/01/2025 21:27

Glad you posted the rules. I like them.

FakingItEasy · 27/01/2025 21:30

Do other parents feel the same as you? I'd be inclined to just set up another WhatsApp group that doesn't include the PC parents and use that.

Minikievs · 27/01/2025 21:35

I thought YANBU but the rules seem reasonable to be fair.
I hate waking up to a mountain of messages sent at stupid o'clock with acknowledgements of a piece of info someone's given, which you then have to scroll back for ages to find.
I don't think those rules are too authoritarian 🤷‍♀️

TheMumEdit · 27/01/2025 21:52

Those are a sample of the rules there are 2 pages of them.
Yes the other parents think it’s ridiculous and some are quite upset. I think they have shot themselves in the foot as many people found the group inclusive but it’s clearly not.

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TeaHagTeaBag · 27/01/2025 22:14

We have similar guidelines for class WA groups in our primary. They also send a reminder at the start of the year that WA groups are not the place for teacher gripes, with a link to the school complaints policy. It hasn't happened with my kids' classes but I know others have gone completely feral over the years so it's useful guidance. Parents can be worse than preteens with new phones and no wifi curfew.

Costcolover · 27/01/2025 22:58

Have only read the OP so far but had to say that I've never heard of parent council? This surely isn't a UK school

Costcolover · 27/01/2025 23:00

aprayeratatime · 27/01/2025 17:01

Praise the Lord we are home ed now and all these losers are behind my ass

Sorry to jump on you but may I ask how you're finding Home Ed please? DD (ASD, age 10) is really struggling socially at school so I'm considering it for high school

Saracen · 27/01/2025 23:09

Costcolover · 27/01/2025 23:00

Sorry to jump on you but may I ask how you're finding Home Ed please? DD (ASD, age 10) is really struggling socially at school so I'm considering it for high school

There's a home ed board here on Mumsnet where people will be happy to chat.

You also might like to make contact with your local home ed group to see what's readily available in terms of social and educational opportunities organised by other parents. Maybe someone would be willing to meet you for a coffee and chat. People tend to be generous with their time because they may have been where you are now. Most local groups are on Facebook these days: go on FB and type into its search bar "home education" followed by the name of your county or city or nearest big city.

GetDownkeith · 28/01/2025 06:05

Costcolover · 27/01/2025 22:58

Have only read the OP so far but had to say that I've never heard of parent council? This surely isn't a UK school

Don’t know where op is but it’s called parent council in Scottish schools. Hadn’t been PTA for decades.

Mishmashs · 28/01/2025 06:31

Parent Council is not the same as PTA? I’m at a Scottish school and we have both. In ours PC helps to put forward the voice of the parents, raise issues with senior leadership egc - they have regular meetings with the head and six weekly meetings available to any parent. They have nothing to do with fundraising, that’s the PTA’s job. Must be different in your school!

JustAskingThisQ · 28/01/2025 06:38

Had this at primary school. It all soon stopped when I used to openly mock their ridiculous ideas in group settings. "Oh Diane stop being so silly, we will send what messages we want and people can read and reply to what messages they want to". "Laura this is a kid's summer fete, not the Queen's tea party". Or just long stares with twitching lips. Get some parents together who think it's silly and just confront them and say it needs to stop.

JustAskingThisQ · 28/01/2025 06:39

Minikievs · 27/01/2025 21:35

I thought YANBU but the rules seem reasonable to be fair.
I hate waking up to a mountain of messages sent at stupid o'clock with acknowledgements of a piece of info someone's given, which you then have to scroll back for ages to find.
I don't think those rules are too authoritarian 🤷‍♀️

Leave the group then?

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