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To think I could get sacked?

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Katybbb · 27/01/2025 12:51

I work from home mainly and have been logging off randomly, turning up late. My marriage ended and all I have done is cry, my ex and I were together for 20 years and I am really struggling since the split. I have been to the doctor and he has given me some antidepressants but I had a meeting with work and they said they didn’t want to go down the disciplinary route. I can’t lose my job and know what I have done is wrong.

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CornishDew · 27/01/2025 15:15

You need to check your sickness policy and get a doctors note to be signed off sick. Your other option is take annual leave (paid) or some unpaid leave, even if half days of either

However if you carry on logging off and starting late you will get sacked. Remote working is built on trust and unfortunately due to some who abuse that trust, it is always under scrutiny

Quinlan · 27/01/2025 15:17

If you won’t get full pay then take a mortgage holiday and get signed off. If you don’t take a short term hit now, you will have a long term problem to face when you lose your job.

anon4net · 27/01/2025 15:21

Speak to HR and see what you are entitled to if you take time off. How much sick leave do you get?

If you can, even using savings, try to get 4-6 weeks off and aim to maybe see a local counsellor in that time.

Keeping your job is clearly important, so you need to go back when you are well enough to be back and have maybe had time to create some new healthy norms, rest etc.

Porcuporpoise · 27/01/2025 15:49

Sick leave. Annual leave. Some unpaid leave. Reduced hours.

Anything really except what you've been doing.

ScaryM0nster · 27/01/2025 15:54

By not working when you should be, you’re getting close to fraud.

GP is a great start.

A couple of things to do:

  1. read your sickness policy. Understand what the pay situation is. If you get paid sick leave then look to take some on discussion with your GP.
  2. find out if your employer has an employee assistance program. They tend to offer support in these situations.
  3. Look for local mental health support. Most areas have something can self refer to.
  4. Consider using somr annual leave to cover the time you’re not working if can’t take time off sick. Then you’re not pretending to work when you’re not.
MixedFeelingsNoFeelings · 27/01/2025 16:42

EmmaMaria · 27/01/2025 13:36

I am not saying this to be harsh, but you need to quickly come to some serious decisions. They are being sympathetic for now, but that cannot last for ever - you cannot continue to draw a full wage and not put in the full effort, so matter how hard things are for you right now. So you either need to go off sick and take some time to recover, or you need to double down and pay attention to your work, be in work when you should be and stop making mistakes. I get it, I really do - it's a horrible thing to be going through. But you can't afford for it to get worse, and losing your job is getting worse.

I agree with others that taking some sick leave is probably best, but if you genuinely can't afford that, then you have to pull yourself together - or at least enough to get through the working day. Once the working day is over is your own time and if you need to cry, throw things, or whatever will help you deal with the emotions, you can do any and all of those things for the rest of the day.

Agree with this. I don't think you've said how long it's been since you separated OP, but it sounds like you're still in the raw early stages, when you're doing nothing but crying, and not eating or sleeping. I remember that panicky feeling of not knowing when or if it would stop. Also, not being able to stop myself bursting into tears when speaking to a client, which added to the feeling that I was incapable of working.

The good news is this intense stage DOES end. In my case, it did a screeching u-turn, when after a couple of weeks ex came to get his stuff and I noticed he'd taken his wedding ring off. My grief turned to fury - an emotion very much more useful to me!! I'd like to think that everyone in this situation has that 'blinding clarity' moment that jolts them out of the pit of despair and brings them back to something like their normal selves.

Anyway this is just to say, if possible please don't burn your bridges with work. Regular income, routine and familiar faces will all help you keep it together while you ease into this new chapter in your life.

Summon up the strength to have an honest conversation with your line manager about how your situation right now is affecting your ability to do the job. You've posted that they've started picking you up on things anyway, so they have noticed. Did they know about your personal circumstances when they talked about "going down the disciplinary route"?

It's hard, but try to see things from their point of view. Personally I wouldn't go in demanding sick leave - I'd make it more about you and the company finding a way forward that you can both agree on. And as with any negotiation, it's good to have an idea of what kind of outcome you want, eg a period of paid/unpaid leave. If you're reasonable, hopefully they will be too. If they're not - you're better off out of there, but preferably at a time of your own choosing!

EmmaMaria · 27/01/2025 16:53

SereneCapybara · 27/01/2025 14:41

Well this record would be strong grounds against constructive dismissal if they did try to ease you out.

Can you take a fortnight off sick, signed off by doctor, due to starting the ADs and your personal crisis. Spend the first week doing nothing excpet taking care of yourself, and the second week starting to gently build some structure into your new life without your ex. Get someone to help with any practical stuff like transferring bills into your name, chasing him for outstanding payment of incoming bills etc. Maybe ask to phase back in 3 days a week and really focus on those days, and use the free time around them to rest, take gentle exercise and sort out the changes in life.

I am so sorry you are going through this. I hope you don't lose your job and that you come out the other side of the break up happier and stronger than ever.

@SereneCapybara Well this record would be strong grounds against constructive dismissal if they did try to ease you out.

No it wouldn't on all counts. Constructive unfair dismissal is when someone is forced to resign and the OP is not talking about resigning at all. And I am sorry but past record counts for nothing - the OP is not doing their working hours, disappearing off to cry etc. Without wishing to be harsh, if so inclined what has happened so far constitutes a dismissable situation; and possibly, if the employer were so inclined, gross misconduct. They have been understanding it would appear, but be in no doubt that what the OP has been doing is fair grounds for dismissal. She is quite right to be worried about it, which is why she needs to either take some time to recover and sign off sick, or find a coping mechanism for work time.

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