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AIBU?

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To not help my friend this time?

64 replies

cadburyegg · 26/01/2025 17:21

I have a close friend, who has 2 ds’s, one in primary and the other in nursery. I also have 2 ds’s but mine are a bit older, both in primary.

Since her dc were born she has constantly lamented about how she gets very little help from their families. However , I’ve noticed this is not actually true. I have been to their house on multiple occasions and seen her MIL help unload the dishwasher, her uncle helped them build a home office etc. I used to help her a little but it occurred to me that I was helping her do things that I can’t do myself. Her and her dh always have to do everything together and go everywhere as a family. All appointments for the children, they both go. Last year her youngest dc had to go to A&E, they were worried about sepsis, but it turned out to just be viral. I looked after their oldest dc so they could both take the little one. However, I don’t have the luxury of being able to do this - I’m a single parent, and when my youngest dc fell over last year and cut his head open I had to take them both to hospital. On weekends when I don’t have my children (they go to their dads EOW) I used to go on days out with my friend and her children and help her with them so her dh could get on with building their garden office. Since this garden office has been finished, they don’t invite me out for the day anymore, but it’s been dropped into conversation that they go out with other families. Ironically, I need a garden office built this year but I don’t have a partner to do it for me, I will need to pay someone!

Anyway just providing some background. Now, her oldest dc has to go to hospital this Wednesday for a routine but significant operation. She has asked me if I will look after her ds2 from 6am, take him to nursery for 8am, and pick him up between 4-5pm and look after him until one of them picks him up. Their older DS has to be on the ward by 7am. This is going to be a bit tricky for me… selfishly I don’t want to have to get up for 6am when my own kids don’t wake til 7. I could take her ds2 to nursery but it would mean dragging both my kids out at 7.30am to do this. I could drop him after the school run but I’d have to start work late (I’m supposed to start at 9am). Picking him up between 4-5pm would also be tricky because I’m supposed to be working til 5pm. I could call in favours at work but I feel uncomfortable asking for flexibility when it’s not for my own children.

Again, she is lamenting that no one else will help - but IMO they should divide and conquer? One of them takes the older child to hospital while the other is in charge of the nursery run and if necessary they could join the other parent and child at the hospital after. I am struggling to see their POV because I know having a kid in hospital is very stressful but I just don’t think it’s necessary for both of them to be there unless it’s absolutely essential. But it’s occurred to me that because I’ve been a single parent for so long I am just used to sorting things on my own? AIBU?

OP posts:
Tuftykitten · 26/01/2025 17:49

Oh my god.
Please don't help her.
She's taking the piss.
She is a stone cold user.
While you're at it - ditch her.

BlondeMamaToBe · 26/01/2025 17:50

You are unavailable due to your own childcare and work and it’s inconvenient without her being a user.

Frostynoman · 26/01/2025 17:51

Had she not clearly (and repeatedly) taken advantage before I would be saying it’s a bit harsh on the child having the op not to have both their parents there. However, she’s completely and utterly taken the mic so I understand that there’s no goodwill left. Say that you can’t - I’m sure someone else will help and if not, then it isn’t your issue.

TomatoSandwiches · 26/01/2025 17:51

One takes DC1 to hospital the other takes DC2 to nursery and then meets up with other parent and DC1 after drop off.
One parent goes to pick up DC2 takes them home, makes something for parent in hospital to eat and takes it so everyone can see DC1 if possible and then they either switcheroo with each other but essentially one DC each, one at home and one overnight with DC1.

I can not tell you how many times we've had to do this with our lot, it's very manageable and there's no way in a month of Sundays would I have the brass neck to ask a working single mother for help when I had my husband on hand.

willowbrookmanor · 26/01/2025 17:52

@cadburyegg Thinking about it some more…. can they both drive and both have access to a car to get separately to the hospital and nursery?

RawBloomers · 26/01/2025 17:57

YANBU to say no. It’s a lot of work and they could split the tasks. I understand why they want To both go, but it’s not a luxury that trumps you getting more sleep and your DC not being dragged out of the house super early.

Does she do any reciprocation? You mention having to take both your DC to the hospital last year when one needed care - did you ask her to look after the other one and she refused? Do you ever ask her to do things that would be helpful to you and does she do them? If so, I don’t think she’s being cheeky asking for things that you can’t do for yourself - people in a working two parent family naturally have more resources. Though if the balance seems uneven say no more or ask her for more. With friendships, helping each other out should be mutually beneficial not all one way because someone is worse off.

But you make it sound like she asks a lot of you and never returns the favour - if that’s the case you need to drop her. She isn’t a friend she’s a user and you need to free up space in your life to make friends with nice people instead.

RunningJo · 26/01/2025 18:21

Another YANBU here and an absolute definite no in helping in this situation. They’re asking too much from you.
If it were an emergency then that’s different, but it’s not. There are 2 of them and I’m sure between them, MIL & other friends they can sort something out
You don’t need to explain yourself, just say you can’t help in this occasion & hope all goes well at the hospital.

80smonster · 26/01/2025 18:21

‘Sorry - no can do’

MimiSunshine · 26/01/2025 18:29

Absolutely do not help her out. She doesnt actually need your help, she just wants it. As you say, between them both, they have it all covered.

you’d have to either drag your kids around / get up early / miss some work or call in favours to do it.

shes taking the piss and advantage. Also you need to start calling in the favours you’ve given her now. 1st one being some help from her DH with building the garden office.

commonsense61 · 26/01/2025 18:31

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WatchSaveShare · 26/01/2025 18:36

Give and take. She’s not giving, just taking AND expecting you to go out of your way. Nope.

Hdjdb42 · 26/01/2025 18:47

I'm glad that you've realised that she's been using you. I would say, sorry I'm working that day. I would not allow her to continue to use you. My husband and I divide tasks, we don't palm our kids off onto people so we can both do the same task. She can do the school run and ring him for updates. Her husband is perfectly capable of looking after their child.

PinkyFlamingo · 26/01/2025 18:51

She walks all over you and you let her. Not really sure why?

AreYouShittingMe · 26/01/2025 18:57

Completely agree with @TomatoSandwiches says.
I'm gobsmacked they are asking a single working mother of two to help them out.
CF
Please say no.

friendlycat · 26/01/2025 19:00

It would be a no from me. She can work this between themselves.

I would not put myself out for her when nothing is reciprocated and they can divide and conquer. I would also be conscious about asking favours of others at work to be limited to my own children not somebody else’s.

MatriarchalMadness · 26/01/2025 19:02

She's a CF. She's got a husband, so one of them can take the kid to hospital and the other can be with the other child.

Dollshousedolly · 26/01/2025 19:07

I would just message and say sorry, can’t help this time, am working that day kids have school, etc. Hope procedure goes well.

Itiswhysofew · 26/01/2025 19:07

Tell her to ask someone from the other families they go out with.

Because you're a single parent doesn't mean she gets to call on your time when it suits her. Don't let her take you for a fool.

What an absolute CF she is. She's got a husband to share their family burdens with. Honestly 🤨

Couldyounot · 26/01/2025 19:11

Not seeing where hubsiepops can't take a bit of time out from Important Business Success Man to look after his own fucking kids tbh

Han86 · 26/01/2025 19:16

No YANBU, like others have said there is no real reason why one parent can't do the nursery run and then join the other at the hospital.

TeenLifeMum · 26/01/2025 19:17

I’d go with “sorry friend, that’s not going to be possible for me this time. Hope you manage to sort something xx”

Pickledpeanuts · 26/01/2025 19:20

Definitely not unreasonable to say no, in fact it sounds long overdue.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 26/01/2025 19:26

Frostynoman · 26/01/2025 17:51

Had she not clearly (and repeatedly) taken advantage before I would be saying it’s a bit harsh on the child having the op not to have both their parents there. However, she’s completely and utterly taken the mic so I understand that there’s no goodwill left. Say that you can’t - I’m sure someone else will help and if not, then it isn’t your issue.

Unless a child is seriously ill, if it's for a routine procedure/operation then there is absolutely no need for them to have both parents there. They won't let 2 into the anaesthetic room or the recovery room anyway. Absolutely pointless.

This woman needs to grow up and be a proper parent rather than always having to rely on someone else. She sounds very spoilt and always used to others doing everything for her. One of life's users. Ditch her.

Praying4Peace · 26/01/2025 19:27

WompWompBoom · 26/01/2025 17:27

Definitely not being unreasonable. That's a huge huge ask. Tell her that unfortunately you can't. And leave it at that.

This in abundance!
And you are single parenting your own children and this would disrupt their day/routine.
You are clearly very kind and caring OP but this request is OTT

LookItsMeAgain · 26/01/2025 19:40

Can I ask you @cadburyegg if she put together the timetable of things that you would be needed to do as part of the ask? The reason I’m asking is because you could return the time table to her suggesting that her DH does the parts that they’re asking you to do and she would bring the I’ll child to hospital (or she could do the running around and he brings the I’ll child to hospital)

One way or the other, you're unable to help but you wish them well.