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To find this grim and off-putting?

15 replies

Dottiemay · 26/01/2025 13:47

The other day, my boyfriend was with a group of his male friends and one lone woman. They started making jokes about being “vapists” (as in people who vape) – but it was clearly a coded joke about being rapists. I wasn’t there, but he was recounting it to me afterwards in a “how funny is this?” kind of way, and I honestly just felt horrified.

I kept thinking about how inappropriate and tone-deaf it was, especially given the dynamic of a group of men joking about rape to a lone woman. It made me feel sick. If I’d been in her shoes, I might have cried or had to walk off because I’d have felt so embarrassed, intimidated, or even unsafe. It’s just not funny. It reminded me of how much privilege men have in situations like this – to be able to laugh about something so serious because, for the most part, they don’t have to worry about it. For women, though, it’s a real fear.

I’ve had a non-consensual experience myself, so I found it particularly hard to stomach. And the whole “laughing men at the expense of a silly little woman who doesn’t get it” vibe he described just felt grim and sexist. I haven’t brought it up with him yet because I’m still trying to work out if I’m being unreasonable or overreacting.

Would this bother you, or am I reading too much into it?

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Moglet4 · 26/01/2025 13:49

It’s disgusting and unfortunately, much as you shouldn’t have to, you’re going to have to explain why to him

zaxxon · 26/01/2025 13:49

Yeesh, yes that's pretty awful, and pathetically immature. How old is this man?!

YankSplaining · 26/01/2025 13:50

Who is this woman and what did she think?

PizzaPunk · 26/01/2025 13:52

'Vapist' is a very common and unfunny word that's been around since vapes were invented.

They sound like the sort of twats who tell everyone how 'crazy and funny' they all are.

Risheth · 26/01/2025 13:53

Tell him to exercise basic human decency in keeping his hilarious bantz about vaping and rape to himself?

Dottiemay · 26/01/2025 13:54

YankSplaining · 26/01/2025 13:50

Who is this woman and what did she think?

They're all cricket pals and she was the partner of one of them. I've never met her so have no idea what she thought.

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Doggymummar · 26/01/2025 13:54

It's a teenage boy thing. One explanation should be enough to stop it. If not I think he needs to go.

LeroyJenkinssss · 26/01/2025 13:54

Ew. The fact that he told you about it as well is grim. And I don’t buy the whole “it’s men’s banter” bullshit - as an example, I’ve overheard a wonderful male by colleague rip into someone for making a sexist remark. Neither party knew I was in the adjoining office. So nope.

it would be an immediate (and lasting) turnoff

VotingForYourself · 26/01/2025 13:56

Yeah that's a disgusting sort of joke to make. Even more bizarre is that he found it hilarious enough to repeat it to his girlfriend.

Personally I'd dump him and find a proper grown up man.

VotingForYourself · 26/01/2025 13:57

Doggymummar · 26/01/2025 13:54

It's a teenage boy thing. One explanation should be enough to stop it. If not I think he needs to go.

It really doesn't need explaining. Who wants to be someone who needs this spelt out?

verycloakanddaggers · 26/01/2025 14:02

Give him one chance to understand. Explain really clearly why it's never funny.

If he doesn't look like he's got it, then he's probably done you a favour letting you know what kind of person he is.

AlleyRose · 26/01/2025 14:27

Does he find On The Beach adverts funny as well?

Knob 🙄

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 26/01/2025 14:34

Why are you calling her a lone woman?

Someone should’ve said something, maybe her or her partner, but they didn’t. That’s the way it goes. Make sure you speak up next time something like that happens.

Dottiemay · 26/01/2025 14:42

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 26/01/2025 14:34

Why are you calling her a lone woman?

Someone should’ve said something, maybe her or her partner, but they didn’t. That’s the way it goes. Make sure you speak up next time something like that happens.

Well she was a sole woman within a group of men. Hence lone woman. I couldn't speak up because I wasn't there as my original post said.

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C152 · 26/01/2025 15:34

I'd think they were all dickheads and I would dump a man who didn't understand why it's fundamentally wrong to joke about rape. I wouldn't bother giving him a chance and explaining to him why this is wrong. If I have to explain such a basic thing, he's really not worth being around.

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