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To have objected to ‘prayers’ at work

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Iamthewintersale · 21/01/2025 13:56

Will try to keep this brief… Work in a team of 12, 6 in U.K. and 6 in USA ( mid-west) and once a week we have a team meeting that we take turns in running.

Tomorrow is the turn of A. A is a Republican, church goer, voted Trump because she wanted, quote ‘More money in my pocket book and illegals dealt with’.
So far so MAGA. This came up pre-election as she’s the only Trump fan on the team and was open about it.

On the agenda for the meeting is ‘Prayer’ as point one. I pinged manager a note saying what?? A thinks it would be nice to start off with a prayer. As a team. I have asked for it to be OFF the agenda. US manager thinks it’s ‘harmless’ but has said will clarify.

AIBU to think it’s totally inappropriate??? I’m an atheist for a start, most of my U.K. team are the same or at least agnostic.

Seems weird that she’s never tried this before, but suddenly Trump ‘god saved me to MAGA’ is inaugurated and a team prayer is in the agenda.
We are a large global company, BTW, not some local mom & pop outfit that sells bibles…

YANBU - work is secular. She keeps her views and prayers to herself own time.

YABU - lighten up, what harm can it do.

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Iamthewintersale · 28/01/2025 17:11

’Faith has fuck all to do with whether a person is a good or a bad person.’

As All those paedophile and abusive ministers, priests, rabbis, etc prove day after day after day

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crockofshite · 28/01/2025 17:22

Iamthewintersale · 28/01/2025 17:11

’Faith has fuck all to do with whether a person is a good or a bad person.’

As All those paedophile and abusive ministers, priests, rabbis, etc prove day after day after day

Yep !

alwaysontheloo · 29/01/2025 10:38

Iamthewintersale · 28/01/2025 17:11

’Faith has fuck all to do with whether a person is a good or a bad person.’

As All those paedophile and abusive ministers, priests, rabbis, etc prove day after day after day

That's religion you're talking about. Which is a separate thing to faith.

A person can have faith without following a religion.

HowardTJMoon · 29/01/2025 10:51

alwaysontheloo · 29/01/2025 10:38

That's religion you're talking about. Which is a separate thing to faith.

A person can have faith without following a religion.

While it's true that faith and religion are not synonymous, the original point still stands - faith has bugger all to do with whether a person is good or bad. What determines how good/bad we are are the choices we make and the actions we perform.

alwaysontheloo · 29/01/2025 12:29

HowardTJMoon · 29/01/2025 10:51

While it's true that faith and religion are not synonymous, the original point still stands - faith has bugger all to do with whether a person is good or bad. What determines how good/bad we are are the choices we make and the actions we perform.

Obviously.

But faith is a personal thing and as you said is not synonymous with whether someone is 'good' or 'bad'. Equally being religious doesn't make someone bad either, nor does not being religious make one 'good'.

There's a lot of superior sneering at the religious on this thread. None of which makes anyone on it 'good'.

SerendipityJane · 29/01/2025 13:31

There's a lot of superior sneering at the religious on this thread. None of which makes anyone on it 'good'.

Just consider it a natural balance to the superior hectoring of religions to the areligious.

BettyBardMacDonald · 29/01/2025 13:32

@alwaysontheloo

If the "religious" would stop shoving their superstitions down others' throats, and stop trying to influence public policy, they'd encounter less sneering.

Iamthewintersale · 29/01/2025 13:55

BettyBardMacDonald · 29/01/2025 13:32

@alwaysontheloo

If the "religious" would stop shoving their superstitions down others' throats, and stop trying to influence public policy, they'd encounter less sneering.

Amen to that. I don’t care how other people worship but I do t want to hear about it, I don’t want to be told I should join in or am missing out in some way, and I sure as hell do not want it affecting my human and civil rights in anyway.

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alwaysontheloo · 29/01/2025 15:13

BettyBardMacDonald · 29/01/2025 13:32

@alwaysontheloo

If the "religious" would stop shoving their superstitions down others' throats, and stop trying to influence public policy, they'd encounter less sneering.

Some religious people do, but most don't. Do you apply that to all religious people no matter what the religion?

You're free to be atheist, agnostic or whatever you want, you don't have to be a cunt about people who don't think like you though. And it doesn't make you superior just because you don't have faith or follow a religion. I find that atheists tend to be the most aggressive bordering nasty about it, that's just my experience though.

MissCherryCakeyBun · 29/01/2025 15:47

@Iamthewintersale maybe ask to start with afternoon tea or elevenses in future as a good cuppa is just as important here Wink

BettyBardMacDonald · 29/01/2025 15:58

Well said, @Iamthewintersale

I'm not interested in superstition or fairy tales, and certainly don't want others' invisible overlords having any influence in my life.

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