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heartgoesboom · 19/01/2025 01:12

Hello,

If you knew someone with a previous history of physical assaults on a child and controlling and coercive behaviours, as well as stalking and weapons during a separation, was volunteering at a sports club children attend (and a judge for the sport) would you report them to the associated agencies for that sport?

Police failure means that at the time it was all disclosed, they didn’t investigate it or take it forward until it came to light years later (that one is another ridiculous story) so what happened has only just been logged as a crime against them. As it’s historic (and one victim doesn’t want to progress it further out of fear of them), it won’t be investigated but will be held on police systems as a crime.

Sorry to be vague, don’t want to put ‘that’ much out there as I was one of the victims too.

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Dotto · 19/01/2025 01:20

Of course I would. Hope you're OK.

heartgoesboom · 19/01/2025 01:24

Thank you. I’m much stronger and determined that this person shouldn’t be able to have the opportunity to harm anyone else. I was one of the children assaulted as was one of my siblings.

I would have done it much earlier if I’d have known how badly the PC I disclosed things to failed in their job but I was young and naive at the time and having had nothing to do with the police ever, thought it would just be dealt with and I wouldn’t hear anything for confidentiality.
It came to light only recently so they may well have had a DBS done prior to this.

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TankFlyBossWalkJamNittyGrittyIAmFromAMidSizeCity · 19/01/2025 01:24

So, as it stands, it's an accusation?

He will have passed his DBS and they wouldn't take an anonomous tip off about behaviour that he hasn't been charged with seriously.

There nothing stopping you reporting him, but he could well know it's you that reported him.

If you're 100% sure about the behaviour, then I would be more likely to tell the parents who attend the club.

heartgoesboom · 19/01/2025 01:29

100% sure because I lived through it and had his hands round my neck aged 15/16, shoving me across a room by the neck amongst assaults on a sibling, physically harming the family dogs, controlling behaviour for years etc. They have actually out of the blue recently contacted said sibling after never speaking to them for years, to ask for a ‘favour’.

I reported it to the police many years ago but only recently found out they failed in their job to investigate what I’d disclosed so it was never crimed as I thought it would have been.

Many offences have a ‘time out’ period so they’ve recorded them now on him but can’t formally investigate due to the time. The things they can relate to the victim who’s too fearful to take forward.

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TupperJen · 19/01/2025 01:30

I would, but as PP said the club won't be able to "do" anything based on an allegation alone. As someone who held various positions in kids clubs, if I had received this information I would take it to the committee, then probably talk to the alleged perpetrator. If they denied/continued in the club I guess we'd be more careful when it comes to unsupervised access, but there wouldn't be much we could do officially.

heartgoesboom · 19/01/2025 01:32

@TupperJen Thank you. Is there anything from your remit where you could apply to the police to find out the information held?

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Whatzzitz · 19/01/2025 01:49

I would speak to the sport centres safeguarding lead to tell them your experience. I’d also contact DBS and the police.

heartgoesboom · 19/01/2025 01:55

@Whatzzitz The police know as it all came to light when they were letting him volunteer for them to drive a minibus collecting vulnerable women who were survivors of DA amongst other vulnerabilities, to take them to a police ran support group (despite having my full original disclosure recorded against him, the PC just failed to record and investigate the multiple crimes which came from that).

The man himself is an ex police officer. I found out, raised a massive alarm and was told they’d remove him from the role. Months later, they’d kept him as they felt bad for taking away the transport from the group. I had to fight to get him removed and it’s how it came to be that the crimes finally got recorded.

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JandamiHash · 19/01/2025 02:45

I would. Even if they do nothing with the information (which I don’t think would be the case, these days clubs would so rather be safe than sorry)at least they know

JandamiHash · 19/01/2025 02:48

I was a victim of revenge porn, assault and stalking 20 years ago. Back then revenge porn wasn’t a crime, so the fact my ex boyfriend had secretly filmed us having sex and showed it to his friends was ok within the law. He was “spoken to” about the stalking and no charges brought over the assault in the nightclub six months after we split despite there being witnesses.

I found out about 8 years ago that he’d qualified as a teacher and had got a job in a school. I rang the head and told him what kind of person they were employing. I didn’t find out what action they took, but the head was very grateful that he had been put in the picture (or was paying me lip service).

ThinWomansBrain · 19/01/2025 03:57

Whatzzitz · 19/01/2025 01:49

I would speak to the sport centres safeguarding lead to tell them your experience. I’d also contact DBS and the police.

this - the sport centre can do another DBS check.
From memory, I think they need to be renewed regularly (but that might be an internal policy of charities I've worked for in the past rather than a legal requirement).

Sorry to hear of the experiences that you lived through as a teenager - it must be tortuous to know that he is continuing to get close to young people and vulnerable women through work or volunteering.

GED1310 · 19/01/2025 08:09

Hi OP, I would advise you contact your local LADO - local authority designated officer. Checks run buy some clubs are limited and the LADO is aligned with Children’s Services. Any concerns about a person in a position of trust should go through them. If you call children’s services in the local authority he is working in they should refer it to the LADO.

JollySquid · 20/01/2025 10:39

JandamiHash · 19/01/2025 02:48

I was a victim of revenge porn, assault and stalking 20 years ago. Back then revenge porn wasn’t a crime, so the fact my ex boyfriend had secretly filmed us having sex and showed it to his friends was ok within the law. He was “spoken to” about the stalking and no charges brought over the assault in the nightclub six months after we split despite there being witnesses.

I found out about 8 years ago that he’d qualified as a teacher and had got a job in a school. I rang the head and told him what kind of person they were employing. I didn’t find out what action they took, but the head was very grateful that he had been put in the picture (or was paying me lip service).

Do you know if he’s still a teacher? A Google will confirm either way

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