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To be glad they are upping efforts to find this mother

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AtlasPine · 18/01/2025 08:01

£20,000 offered in search for parents of three abandoned babies https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg00m1mv3eo

It seems quite likely to me that she is in a position of vulnerability and in need of a lot of help. For three pregnancies with no ensuing baby to go unnoticed by everyone around her suggests she may be held against her will. Also, they need to be able to get the third baby into an adoption situation asap to give her as much security as possible. Really hope someone comes forward - perhaps the reward will help.

A dark blue reusable Boots carrier bag, with the Boots logo written on it in white lettering, lies on the concrete next to some dried grass and foliage

£20,000 reward offered as police search for parents of three abandoned babies

Police appeal for information relating to three babies abandoned by the same parents shortly after birth in east London. A reward of £20,000 is also being offered by Crimestoppers.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg00m1mv3eo

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arcticpandas · 15/05/2025 20:44

Ponoka7 · 18/01/2025 08:08

I don't understand why their ethnic background isn't being publicised. The child's adoption should be a priority.

They look very Black to me so African. I don't know if you can determine country though, I don't think so?

JHound · 15/05/2025 20:59

I am very scared it’s a Josef Fritzl type situation with the unfortunate mother restrained somewhere.

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:00

Ponoka7 · 18/01/2025 08:08

I don't understand why their ethnic background isn't being publicised. The child's adoption should be a priority.

They shared their photos so the children are black. But without knowing the parents their ethnicity is unknown.

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:02

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 15/05/2025 09:08

This story is back in the headlines - police say they've narrowed the area of the search to 400 dwellings. I wonder if this announcement could put the woman at heightened risk.

Terrible woman-blaming headline in the DM:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14714245/Hunt-mother-abandoned-three-babies-London.html#

It’s the Daily Heil. I would expect nothing less.

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:04

paranoiaofpufflings · 15/05/2025 20:18

I live very local to this case. I’m pleased it’s picking up wider attention.
It has been shared before that the babies are black, but as far as I know, no more specific than that.
I have also read that the siblings, all three, are fostered separately but the older two were having contact with each other. This was because they were fostered before it was known they were siblings.
Also from bits and pieces I’ve read previously, and putting two and two together, I believe it’s strongly suspected that it is the mother leaving the babies, so that leads me to think she is giving birth out of the home, leaving the babies and going off. The police being interviewed on this case today talked about a comparison to women who give birth in war zones and how that gives them the adrenaline to be able to walk away to safety to give birth.
This poor mother is clearly in a desperate and probably dangerous situation. I hope they find her soon for her own sake.

They apparently have the same mother and father though so if it is the mother what is rhe father doing?

And surely people would notice three pregnancies but never a baby to show for it?

paranoiaofpufflings · 15/05/2025 21:12

@JHoundI have presumed the father is abusive in some way so I’d guess he’s doing nothing to help, whether he knows about the babies or not. And easily believable that a woman can be pregnant and one one else know. Many women live isolated or restricted lives.
None of us can really know or understand what awful circumstances another person is in.

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:14

paranoiaofpufflings · 15/05/2025 21:12

@JHoundI have presumed the father is abusive in some way so I’d guess he’s doing nothing to help, whether he knows about the babies or not. And easily believable that a woman can be pregnant and one one else know. Many women live isolated or restricted lives.
None of us can really know or understand what awful circumstances another person is in.

I genuinely don’t think it’s possible the father does not know. Three kids across multiple years?

Nope.

Callie247 · 15/05/2025 21:17

I actually walked along the Greenway a couple of weeks before the last baby was found. It's a fairly busy area. Even after dark the track itself is well used.

JSMill · 15/05/2025 21:21

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:00

They shared their photos so the children are black. But without knowing the parents their ethnicity is unknown.

I don’t think it’s difficult. My ds got a kit from Costco a couple of years ago which showed the different ethnic background in his DNA. It was pretty much what you would expect knowing the family history but threw in a 1% Somali we didn’t know about! I am sure the police could access more expensive and accurate tests.

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:27

JSMill · 15/05/2025 21:21

I don’t think it’s difficult. My ds got a kit from Costco a couple of years ago which showed the different ethnic background in his DNA. It was pretty much what you would expect knowing the family history but threw in a 1% Somali we didn’t know about! I am sure the police could access more expensive and accurate tests.

I don’t really see how it would assist in the search.

CapitalAtRisk · 15/05/2025 21:31

Oh come on. If you are imprisoning a woman, do you go out and abandon your babies in public places?

Do we even know if all the babies have the same father?

I am guessing that the mother has SEN issues, and keeps getting pregnant without being able to deal with it.

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:36

CapitalAtRisk · 15/05/2025 21:31

Oh come on. If you are imprisoning a woman, do you go out and abandon your babies in public places?

Do we even know if all the babies have the same father?

I am guessing that the mother has SEN issues, and keeps getting pregnant without being able to deal with it.

Edited

All three babies have the same mother and father.

And whoever leaves the baby is careful to avoid being seen and CCTV.

CapitalAtRisk · 15/05/2025 21:38

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:36

All three babies have the same mother and father.

And whoever leaves the baby is careful to avoid being seen and CCTV.

Thanks. I did not know that. But I will say again - if you are holding the mother hostage, why would you take the babies out to dispose of them?

It is so horrific. And it makes so little sense.

Supersimkin7 · 15/05/2025 21:40

Incest? LD? Alcohol? More likely than Fritzl.

No info on whether the babies were born withdrawing from drugs or whether they’re NT.

MamaLenny · 15/05/2025 21:44

This story has disturbed me for a while. I remember one of the babies was initially named Elsa because she was freezing cold when found, don't understand why anyone thought that would be a nice name to give her.

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:59

CapitalAtRisk · 15/05/2025 21:38

Thanks. I did not know that. But I will say again - if you are holding the mother hostage, why would you take the babies out to dispose of them?

It is so horrific. And it makes so little sense.

I think Fritzl did that (except he abadoned them on his doorstep.)

The abandoner probably isn’t heartless enough to kill a baby but also knows keeping them is not possible.

JSMill · 15/05/2025 22:43

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:27

I don’t really see how it would assist in the search.

It would narrow the field of potential parents. Pretty obvious really.

cadburyegg · 16/05/2025 00:28

I agree. It is tragic. A very worrying situation. I am glad the babies are safe, of course, but I worry for the mother.

JHound · 16/05/2025 06:22

JSMill · 15/05/2025 22:43

It would narrow the field of potential parents. Pretty obvious really.

For whom? It’s not going to assist the neighbourhood at large.

BeachRide · 16/05/2025 06:26

MamaLenny · 15/05/2025 21:44

This story has disturbed me for a while. I remember one of the babies was initially named Elsa because she was freezing cold when found, don't understand why anyone thought that would be a nice name to give her.

Agreed. I thought it was inappropriate.

NOTANUM · 16/05/2025 06:41

There is clearly more to this than the police are saying (rightly).
It is possible that the mother knows children are not safe in their home, maybe due to the potential for abuse - she might have been a child in that home - or because they’re not “allowed” if it’s a domestic service scenario.
There have been some high profile court cases where people imprison people they bring from their home county and coerce them into staying as they have no money or visa.
It sounds like the mum is suffering regardless and I hope they find her soon.

B1indEye · 16/05/2025 07:00

JHound · 16/05/2025 06:22

For whom? It’s not going to assist the neighbourhood at large.

Doesn't it go without saying that the more they know about the ethnicity of the children the more it might speed up the search for the parents?

I'm sure all possible tests will have been done to narrow things down.

I'm j intrigued as to how they identified such a specific number of houses they think the parents live in

LaurieFairyCake · 16/05/2025 07:05

I heard this on the news yesterday and I was actually wondering why they had said so much information about her being in likely 400 houses

if shes in an incredibly vulnerable situation surely covertly/discreetly searching the houses for someone kept against their will is a possibility ? Or another vulnerable situation?

I really don’t want them to publish her ethnicity

JHound · 16/05/2025 07:07

LaurieFairyCake · 16/05/2025 07:05

I heard this on the news yesterday and I was actually wondering why they had said so much information about her being in likely 400 houses

if shes in an incredibly vulnerable situation surely covertly/discreetly searching the houses for someone kept against their will is a possibility ? Or another vulnerable situation?

I really don’t want them to publish her ethnicity

I think it would put her in more danger.

JHound · 16/05/2025 07:07

B1indEye · 16/05/2025 07:00

Doesn't it go without saying that the more they know about the ethnicity of the children the more it might speed up the search for the parents?

I'm sure all possible tests will have been done to narrow things down.

I'm j intrigued as to how they identified such a specific number of houses they think the parents live in

I really don’t see how.