To not understand how this can be allowed without anyone asking local residents?

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Just read a big announcement on our local facebook page saying a 3 day festival with an absolutely enormous capacity is being held on the fields behind my house this summer (my garden backs onto the fields). I don't want to say how big exactly because it's outing (news articles that come up if you google the exact figure) but it's several times bigger than the entire population of the small town I live in! The road access is really bad already and there's really bad traffic that causes hour long delays when the annual county show is held which is only on for 1 day and is a tiny number of people compated to this festival. There's never been anything even approaching this size here before, it's about 10 times the size of any events that the fields have ever held before. It's a fairly small site so to fit in what the organisers say they're fitting in (5 stages including a dance stage run by a very famous nightclub) every scrap of the fields will have to be used right up to the residents garden fences and the noise will be horrific.

But apparently it's a done deal and is all been given the green light by the town council? It's not a busy place at all, it's a very small town and the site has a main road running through the middle of it (so half the fields are on each side of this road) and housing estate running all down one side of it. Usually it's mostly used for just sheep and one or two of the fields (there's about 6 in total) for the small local event like car boot sales or the county show or a classic car show (and those events cause traffic chaos as it is despite being only very small events ) What I don't understand is I walk over those field nearly every day for the school run and there's been no notices about the plans or anything, no local residents have had a chance to see the plans or object or anything. I can't over state how unsuitable a venue this is for what I've read is happening without outing my location but its really really not at all appropriate! Do residents not have to be told or asked about plans for something thjs big and disruptive ??

I LOVE Creamfields. Or at least I used to when I was a little younger - I used to live in Ibiza so as you can imagine, it's totally my thing.

However, the thought of living near it makes my toes curl. It's not just a few days, it's setting up, then breaking it down, the mess, the divvies pissing around where you live, the behaviour of people and the traffic - I could go on!

I can't fully remember just how close houses are to the perimeter, but I'm pretty sure I don't remember there being gardens backing onto it. OP you say it's nearly hitting creamfields capacity, that's huge and will leave your home a little vulnerable. I'm not sure of the law re: input from residents but I'd be contacting the organiser to query security by your home and I'd expect 24hrs like houses near creamfields have for the duration. If they drag their heels, make it very clear you will record anything and everything and go straight to press should anything happen to your home/should anyone fuck about on or around your property.

Lots saying go away, I wouldn't, I'd stay to ensure your home is safe, just my opinion.

Hopefully you enjoy some of it at the least 🙏🏻

Winchester?

What are you going to complain about if you're not privy to any application it seems. There could be double fencing etc. point is you need to find out before voicing any disagreement lol.
What's the line up? 😁

Book a long weekend away and don't worry about it

The hotels, restaurants, security, clear up gangs will all create lots of employment.

Security is probably bussed in. Clean up is often volunteers working for free entry. Hotels and restaurants aren't going to expand based on the extra custom of 1 weekend a year, so it will just be a couple of extra shifts for existing staff - and if they're chains the profits won't stay local. Same for shops.

Is it worth £350 to discourage people pissing in your garden? 😈
https://www.electricfencing.co.uk/50m-mains-powered-deer-kit

Don't be so ridiculous

My mum lives near where creamfields is held yearly. It's hell for the whole weekend. Good luck

You will get free tickets.

I haven't been there for decades now, but I used to think similarly when we went to Alton Towers with school at the end of the year.

All these massive coaches and huge volumes of cars regularly going through a tiny little village must be horrendous for the residents. I'm not sure free tickets would especially make up for it.

But you'll be able to hear it all clearly from your home anyway - whether you want to or not.

I’d just go away for a few days if I didn’t like the acts that were on.
It’s only 3 days in a year. I couldn’t get agitated over this.
I thought you were going to say you had a sex offenders hostel or similar opening next door. That I could get agitated about.

Listening to The Stranglers from my garden is one of the highlights of my 30 years living here.

Honestly, embrace it. It's the only way!

Not first if this is at all helpful, maybe a tiny bit, but I am sure the festival will have it's own fencing. ( Heras fencing? ) So festival goes shouldn't be right up against your fence.

OP the Town Council have no powers, neither do Parish Councils.

Planning, licensing etc is done via the District Council (not County Council).
So its the one you pay council tax to.

Get in touch with the licensing team there and find out the facts.

Just be aware that Circa 2016 Carmarthen Council agreed to a Christian festival but they were actually travellers using the guise of being Christians and they caused quite a lot of damage. Tesco had to close its toilets and cosmetics/toiletries aisle due to the mess and the shoplifting.

Not if her garden directly backs on to the fields!

Someone needs to stay to make sure their property and garden is not damaged by wandering people looking to go to the toilet, have sex, sleep, steal or just wantonly damage stuff because of alcohol or drugs.

Thanks, we definately pay council tax to the county council, not a district council. I just assumed it was the town council who had the power because they were saying on facebook that the festival had their full backing, and why say that if it wasn't anything to do with them!! I might call up the license people on Monday and ask if a copy is available to local residents?

The lineup hasn't even been posted yet for those asking. World class acts is all the organisers have said and also that full plans will be posted by the end of the month.

I really really am not a nimby, I have lives here years and I welcome the local events that happen on the site despite the traffic chaos and noise they cause, my children enjoy the county show every year for a start and I think it's great for the town to host events and get on the map and bring people in. But this is seriously a much bigger event, it's 10 times the size of anything that's ever been on that site before. The one day county show is loud enough plus mayhem with traffic and parking that goes on for days either side, and that is only about 10% of the numbers coming to this festival!

I can't believe I didn't think about the fencing though. Of course big festivals always have a massive fence all round! Remember photos of people trying to climb the Glastonbury fence though I'm sure it won't be that big! So that makes me feel a bit better about it, still not happy this is the first we heard though!

What happens to public footpaths though when a festival fences off the area? Do they stay open or will they be closed?

If you google your county council name and view event licenses, it should be online to view.

For example:

www.westminster.gov.uk/licensing/view-licence-applications-and-temporary-event-notices

Didn't realise it was that simple, thanks, I will look at this while I'm waiting at swimming later on!

Also for those saying I should just name the festival because I'm anonymous on here, anyone who knew the location would then immediately know what road I live on. Local people are mostly seeming very excited about this event and the few who have voiced concerns on facebook have been shouted down and called Karen etc so I'd really rather not make it obvious to anyone local that I'm not in favour!!

If you lived across the road or behind one of these sites and had to deal with the debris and antics of festival goers you mightn't be quite so blase.

I'm speaking as one who had people pee up/throw up against my property, fight outside my window and block in my car and the noise for 3-4 day periods. I was grateful at the time it wasn't any worse.

These events weren't a thing when we bought the place, if they were I'd have thought twice. You can't appreciate how much of an issue it is until you experience it.

I live right near a massive festival. I’ve either embraced it and had a blast with my free tickets, or sold them and gone away for the weekend.

Part of the site is just over my back fence - massive fencing is erected every year and the bit that backs onto people’s houses is away from the main arenas and areas where festival goers can get to - they want to keep non-payers out of the festival site as much as they want to stop their customers wrecking the locals’ houses and gardens.

I’d have a look at the plans and see how they plan on setting up the site, the traffic management plans, the local police involvement, what the plans are for late night noise, etc.

The set up isn’t too bad here, I barely notice it other than part of the park where I walk my dog is closed, but from about the Wednesday before the festival to the Monday the traffic management plans kick in and it is a massive pain in the arse. We have a one way system put in and loads of roads are closed so it’s a right pain but we just work round it to be honest.

Friday and Saturday nights the main arenas are done by midnight and 10:30pm on the Sunday. It’s fine during the day. The most annoying bit is people walking out of the site squealing and screaming at 2am but there’s security and police down the main road who keep people from pissing in gardens and vandalising people’s property. The worst I’ve found is a load of rubbish in my front garden, but you call the waste management team and they come and clean it up.

Permission has been given so it’s going to happen, so I’d try and stop getting wound up about it and either embrace it and go and have a blast, or be looking at ways to make the most of it. Loads of people here rent out their driveways for parking or to traders and stuff like that.

The organiser is generally keen to keep locals onside, is there any way to speak to someone about your concerns? You may find it a bit reassuring.

The line up has been a bit shit the last few years so I’ve sold my free tickets and fucked off for the weekend and I’ve honestly never had any issues with my house.

And those who say it’s great for the local economy- I don’t know about other festivals, but here, pretty much everything is shipped in. Some businesses benefit, but as general tourists stay away that weekend, the whole area loses out. People used to wander into the local town and spend money in local shops, restaurants and pubs, but there’s so much on the site these days, that people don’t tend to venture out, so the town is as dead as a dead thing. Some locals work in the bars and litter picking and stuff, but most staff, security, traders, etc are brought over.