To feel a bit like everyone hates me when I'm a British tourist in Europe now

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I try with the language, I try not to get in people's way, I tip and I don't complain.

But everything still feels much more hostile than it used to.

I feel sad about not really being able to visit Spain again. Feels the world in general is changing a lot

I found other parts of spain to be fine.

I just felt the hatred in Barcelona.

But they've always been a little bit like that. (Hating outsiders).

They call themselves a closed culture. They don't like the rest of spain either

Yes Catalonia has always felt a bit that way (I remember a waiter once telling me he couldn't speak Spanish so it would have to be Catalan or English 🤣).

Andalusia is not delighted to have us now either though. I found similar in Valencia where a woman in a bar moved away from us as though disgusted by our presence.

I know mean girls and dickheads exist everywhere but the point is when you fit in you don't catch their eye so much.

Why can’t you visit Spain again?

Andalusia is not delighted to have us now?
Really? I don't think it helps to generalise to the extent you're attributing a personality to an entire region. I've had amazing holidays in Andalusia, and felt most welcome.

Just wondering where your favourite places are that you will be sad not to be able to return to?

Top favourite is Seville.

Do you just ignore all the tourist go home graffiti or what?

What do you mean by racism ? Are you black / brown?

if so it could be that ??

what reason do european have to hate us ? we didn’t colonise most if them ( recently anyway) and can’t see why they would be that fussed about brexit ?

Do you think residents of Magaluf consider Brits to be overly formal, overly polite, too reserved and insular?

Disliking someone for their national or ethnic origin is racism. The south of Europe is particularly racist about "gringos".

That’s how the Spanish perceive the English.

That we are too formal and don’t get to the point when asking for things.

And that we are too concerned about timekeeping.

We've always found that now and again people are unfriendly/imply/hostile thinking we're British and then are much nicer to us when they realise we're Irish. But that's always been the case and I haven't noticed any change in the last few years.

You've confused racism with xenophobia

I do agree that the English are not liked around Europe.
England has the reputation as being the nasty coloniser that invaded everywhere.

It's weird because Germany has caused much more destruction, and colonised countries much more recently round Europe.

Yet Germans don't have the reputations as "the colonisers". England has that reputation. It doesn't really make sense.

No she hasn't. Look up racism
It includes country of origin.

It does. The British did it for a thousand years and colonised half the world. It's not the same.

No it doesn't.

Of course it's the same.

Germany colonised nearly the entirety of Europe!

They murdered millions of people. And they displaced millions of people around Europe

Yet people somehow forgive germany but don't forgive England?

Why? It doesn't make sense.

Possibly they are intrigued by this floral vision rather than full of hate!

England has the reputation as being the nasty coloniser that invaded everywhere

Er.. France? Portugal? Spain?

A shopkeeper in Amsterdam was vehemently anti-English a few years ago. She herself was from a Scandinavian country but her husband was English and she said she had found English people intolerant of others in recent years. I don't know if it was something lost in translation (she was speaking in English) but she was very very sweary when speaking about it. Other than that, I haven't really encountered any hostility.

Agree. I used to live and study in Venice, and speak Italian, and Venetian dialect too. It's been weird going back as a tourist, and being treated as such, especially when they don't know that I understand what they're saying. I was on the island of Torcello late one evening, and peered round the back of the church because there was a strange noise. It was a guy fixing the AC unit, and he went off on an extended rant about just when you finally think the tourists are gone someone's staring at you and you're never left in peace for a moment etc etc...😳😆 God, I could see his point though! I'm not surprised people are frustrated, but it's hardly personal.

In Venice, and again in Genova, which is a relatively untouristed city where people on low incomes can still live in the historic centre, I have seen anti tourism graffiti. I don't take it personally, but understand that people don't want their home utterly transformed and their communities destroyed.

Did you read the rest of my post?

I said it doesn't make sense that England has the reputation as being the coloniser.

When germany brutally colonised nearly every country in europe last century.

Er ..not remotely on the same scale?