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9 year old son feeling lonely and left out at school

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Moopants88 · 15/01/2025 20:49

My 9 year old son has been having a difficult time since starting Year 5, and now it’s starting to upset me thinking of him being unhappy at school. I think it’s important to say I googled this and read many threads and didn’t feel the notion ‘they have different friends every week resonated with my son’ which I came across in most posts. My son has always had 3 close friends since reception, he isn’t interested in playing football mainly because of his dyspraxia. When he has tried to join in previously the more boisterous ‘footy lads’ have driven him out the game so he doesn’t bother and that’s fine, not every boy has to want to play football. His friends were always the little musketeers playing games etc and I always felt comforted that even though he didn’t have a big circle or didn’t conform to the more rough and tumble lads that was fine because he had his people. Since starting Year 5, one of his close friends who admittedly has always fancied himself as the class clown, but was a good friend, has started picking and choosing when he plays with him, some days he’s fine with him, other days he’s not very nice to him. One of the other musketeers if you will has gone off to play football, which is fine but he’s since stopped playing with my son altogether, he now goes and sits with the football boys at lunch time and to be honest there’s a few unfavourable characters he’s started to hang out with and he’s made a bit of fun of my son almost to impress them it sounds like, which I found such a shock. He does still have the third friend, he’s a quieter boy. But my son is feeling terribly upset by this shift and has been coming home and telling me he ‘feels like he has nobody’ ‘he feels lonely’ and that he ‘doesn’t have many friends’. I have explained to him it’s quality over quantity and i’d rather have 1 or 2 good, true friends than a whole circle of people who don’t truly know me etc. He said ‘if someone in the class told a joke, they’d laugh but if I said the same joke, nobody would laugh’ - he has been made the joke once or twice but some of these boys who fancy themselves as teenagers and the parents are very immersed in that whole football parent culture which personally some of it is shocking behaviour from adults over a child’s sport. I have spoke to his teacher and he said he will keep an eye and try to encourage new friendships with group tasks, but the groups are all very established and have been for years, of course give or take the odd swapping about which I agree is normal. He does extra curricular activities but it’s sometimes a push to get him to try new things, he says he is ‘bad at making friends’ and worries how he will be perceived. I’m fairly friendly with one of the boys mums but she made a comment recently which made me think she too realises her son doesn’t play with mine now. It’s really knocked me as they were always together having play dates or if one of us was running late or had something come up, we’d help each other out. Now I don’t think I could, because i’d overthink things.

Ultimately i’m just not sure what to do or where to turn, my son is wise for his age and comes out with some pretty deep stuff about it and I hide my hurt and really try to support him and encourage him. I’ve told him to reach out to his friends, see if they want to hang out but I also dont want to force anything. I have tried to gently explain people change etc and friendships will change. I’ve told him he will meet people in high school but 18 months before then is a long time to wait feeling sad and lonely and unwanted.

Anyone in this situation or better still coming out the other side? any words of advice?

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Whatzzitz · 15/01/2025 20:55

He needs to build friendships with children who are on the outside of the popular group. Time to organise play dates and clubs to widen his circle of friends

PalisadesPatty · 15/01/2025 21:01

In my experience it can be quite difficult for the boys who aren’t into football at this age. As you say he will probably find it easier once they are a little older in senior when their interests diversify a bit more. In the mean time I would get him to choose some kids to invite for a play date and observe if there’s anything he’s doing that might be putting them off. Maybe he’d enjoy some female friendships as well, are there girls at school?

Letlooseonthedanse · 15/01/2025 21:06

Talk to the school ASAP, this is t uncommon and they will have suggestions.
DS is now good friends with a boy who sounds like yours, DS was asked to spend some time with him and help him socialise and it really helped.

PlumpUpTheJam · 15/01/2025 21:06

They do reform their friendships in KS2. I remember the first wave of parties where my dc's group started not inviting one another to parties and us adults all talking about it at pick up. It was a bit sad but at the same time they are growing older and forming their own personalties and interests.

LondonLawyer · 15/01/2025 21:35

I also have a non-football son, a year older than yours, and about years 4/5 he definitely slowed friendships with a couple of boys he'd previously been very good mates with. Nothing nasty, and they weren't rejecting him exactly, DS was also less interested in spending a lot of time with them because he found the non-stop football dull.
Does your DS have another hobby or interest, would an after school or weekend club / activity / meeting in that be good? Maybe meet some other infants who don't think the sun rises and sets over a few lads kicking balls around?

MissUltraViolet · 15/01/2025 21:47

My DD's friendship group changed almost every day between year 5 to 6. She'd be best friends with a child or two for a couple days and complete enemies the next.

She is Y8 in secondary and just now starting to find her people. I really struggled with it for a few years, trying to advise her the best I could with no improvement and in the end decided to do my best to build her confidence and make sure she knew her worth, kept telling her to be nice to other children, be friendly, and stay away from anyone nasty - and believe me, there are some really awful kids out there.

Lancrelady80 · 15/01/2025 22:12

Re football.. my ds loves the idea of football but is highly risk averse due to developmental delays causing lots of painful falls etc in his early years. He also is dyspraxic and has low muscle tone. So playing football with the others is a scary (albeit enticing) prospect for him.

His solution, and I give full marks for thinking outside the box on this one, is to run up and down the sidelines acting as referee. The other children take it in good part and although there have been occasional disagreements over decisions it appears to work well.

Would something like that be an option, or would he just be ignored / pushed out by the others?

WinterSun20 · 15/01/2025 22:15

I've been in a similar situation with my son (who sounds very similar). It fortunately has got better recently, but I empathise with how much it pulls on the old heart strings.

I did read a lot about how best to 'respond' to him about it. And one of the things that I read was to acknowledge the situation and his feelings and empathise (eg that sounds hard, I'm sorry that you don't have the friendships you want right now type thing). I was not doing that enough. I mainly focused on trying to reassure him telling him it would get better, that boys did like him, that there are different levels of friendship etc... or I was offering suggestions in how he might make new friendships etc...

But when I focused on just listening and acknowledging his feelings, he actually seemed to come out to the 'funk' quicker. So I just let him vent to me and although it didn't help his friend situation, I think it helped him get it off his chest and then focus on other stuff when not at school. So he was dwelling on it less, which is something at least.

Zae134 · 15/01/2025 22:20

My DS was not a football boy and he was a little bit lost and lonely during Yr5+6, similar to you I kept telling him things would be different in secondary school. Is there a scout/cubs troupe nearby? We found this to be a bit of a lifeline, DS had some nice social interactions there and it wasn't all based around football. Just as reassurance, DS is 15 now and he really did find his 'people' in secondary school so I'm sure your lad will do too.

youngoldthing · 15/01/2025 22:21

I have a football mad 10 yr old. He plays pro youth and he lives and breathes it. That being said he enjoys football at school where the levels are varied and he encourages a lot of the boys to play and have fun. He knows that everyone should be included regardless of ability.

i also have a football hating 6 yr old who would rather stick rusty needles in his eyes than kick a ball about.

I think your DS needs to find his tribe for want of a better phrase. I wouldn't be happy with him being made fun of though. I’d be straight up to the school to sort that out.

Lowin2024 · 21/01/2025 16:34

Just sent you a PM as I have a 9 year old dyspraxic boy and he is in the same boat. It’s so hard to watch as he is an amazing kid with so much to offer in a friendship. I just keep hoping it will get easier at secondary but it’s a long time to wait! Not playing football really does mean kids can be left out.

WorriedJV81 · 30/01/2026 21:09

I know this is a year old thread. But it feels like exactly what my Year 5 son is going through. His friendship group since reception (all girls) have decided that they don't want to play with him any more. He's left wandering the playground alone. He's also undiagnosed dyspraxic and we're struggling with the slow support from school and the SEND team regarding other issues. Life would be easier if he was a football boy, but that's just not him. In class, his teacher has him sat alone and often works alone when other children always pair up with their friends. My heart breaks daily for him. I've no idea if things will get better. I want people to love my boy. He could be a great friend if they could love all his quirks.

Have things improved for your son since you made this post? I hope so.

KeepYaHeadUp · 30/01/2026 21:20

I read your post and it really resonated witb me. My son (now in year 6) had such a tough time in y5. He also isn’t great at football, he’s young for his year, and he’s undiagnosed but definitely has indicators of inattentive ADHD and autism which make it hard for him to connect sometimes. He cried most nights about school, not having close friends and falling out with friends he did have. It was such a hard time. His teacher was fantastic and totally understood the issue so supported with speaking to the whole class about the importance of including everyone.

he had previously done out of school activities with one or two friends but I signed him up for some different activities - think mountain biking and hockey rather than football.

those two things (supportive school environment and building different relationships and building his confidence) have helped massively. By this point his classmates seem to have mellowed out a bit and all seem to like the fact that he does different activities. Importantly it’s given him tonnes more confidence and has got him through his first of many blips with friendships and confidence which hopefully we can build on.

It’s awful as a parent to know your child isn’t having the best time. All you can do is make them feel extra loved and supported at home and provide them with experiences and opportunities to feel good and included in other ways. Primary school is a funny time. Some friendships will be enduring but lots won’t and that’s ok!

Monvelo · 30/01/2026 21:22

It is tough, I do feel for kids in this situation, like mine have been. I've encouraged them to join clubs at lunch time, play with kids in other years, and also encouraged and supported outside school friends.

40andnotsofabulous · 30/01/2026 21:26

Do something outwith school. My DD struggled at school so I sent her to a club where she was the only child from her school. This was great to build her confidence and give her friends outwith school. In time, she cared less about what was happening in school and as she gained confidence she then naturally found it easier to make school friends. A win-win, however was about an 18month journey.

SummertoAutumntoWinter · 30/01/2026 21:26

Moopants88 · 15/01/2025 20:49

My 9 year old son has been having a difficult time since starting Year 5, and now it’s starting to upset me thinking of him being unhappy at school. I think it’s important to say I googled this and read many threads and didn’t feel the notion ‘they have different friends every week resonated with my son’ which I came across in most posts. My son has always had 3 close friends since reception, he isn’t interested in playing football mainly because of his dyspraxia. When he has tried to join in previously the more boisterous ‘footy lads’ have driven him out the game so he doesn’t bother and that’s fine, not every boy has to want to play football. His friends were always the little musketeers playing games etc and I always felt comforted that even though he didn’t have a big circle or didn’t conform to the more rough and tumble lads that was fine because he had his people. Since starting Year 5, one of his close friends who admittedly has always fancied himself as the class clown, but was a good friend, has started picking and choosing when he plays with him, some days he’s fine with him, other days he’s not very nice to him. One of the other musketeers if you will has gone off to play football, which is fine but he’s since stopped playing with my son altogether, he now goes and sits with the football boys at lunch time and to be honest there’s a few unfavourable characters he’s started to hang out with and he’s made a bit of fun of my son almost to impress them it sounds like, which I found such a shock. He does still have the third friend, he’s a quieter boy. But my son is feeling terribly upset by this shift and has been coming home and telling me he ‘feels like he has nobody’ ‘he feels lonely’ and that he ‘doesn’t have many friends’. I have explained to him it’s quality over quantity and i’d rather have 1 or 2 good, true friends than a whole circle of people who don’t truly know me etc. He said ‘if someone in the class told a joke, they’d laugh but if I said the same joke, nobody would laugh’ - he has been made the joke once or twice but some of these boys who fancy themselves as teenagers and the parents are very immersed in that whole football parent culture which personally some of it is shocking behaviour from adults over a child’s sport. I have spoke to his teacher and he said he will keep an eye and try to encourage new friendships with group tasks, but the groups are all very established and have been for years, of course give or take the odd swapping about which I agree is normal. He does extra curricular activities but it’s sometimes a push to get him to try new things, he says he is ‘bad at making friends’ and worries how he will be perceived. I’m fairly friendly with one of the boys mums but she made a comment recently which made me think she too realises her son doesn’t play with mine now. It’s really knocked me as they were always together having play dates or if one of us was running late or had something come up, we’d help each other out. Now I don’t think I could, because i’d overthink things.

Ultimately i’m just not sure what to do or where to turn, my son is wise for his age and comes out with some pretty deep stuff about it and I hide my hurt and really try to support him and encourage him. I’ve told him to reach out to his friends, see if they want to hang out but I also dont want to force anything. I have tried to gently explain people change etc and friendships will change. I’ve told him he will meet people in high school but 18 months before then is a long time to wait feeling sad and lonely and unwanted.

Anyone in this situation or better still coming out the other side? any words of advice?

Oh my goodness, I could have written this about my 9 year old year 4. He's having an awful time. There seems to be a lot of 'banter'/general unkind/thoughtless comments, not always about my son but sometimes to him or in general groups. Things that involve laughing at other people, but my son won't engage in it and it is leaving him alienated. Like your son, he had theee friends from infant school but they've branched out a bit with other children which is fine but if my son gets involved he's put off by the jokes at others expense, comments about girls bottoms etc... I don't know what to advise and I don't know what to do. I always feel if I mention to school then it is almost like it's a problem with him.

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