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Nochildcare · 15/01/2025 19:52

First time posting!

I really need some suggestions with what people do for childcare over the school holidays.

Half my childcare plans for the school holidays has fell through. There's no after school service and I work 8-6 three days a week.

I'm at a loss I don't know what to do for childcare. My dm will take my dc half the school holidays. My holidays only cover 3 weeks and I've already used them for school holidays.

I can't go term time in work or work from home. Holiday clubs are £££ a week! And pay childcare for younger dc so I can't afford it.

Anyone have suggestions?

Tia x

OP posts:
NoobieDoobie11 · 15/01/2025 23:10

Also in Scotland and I’d defer a Feb child. Especially early Feb birthday.

I hope recovery goes well for your father!

Delphiniumandlupins · 15/01/2025 23:10

Ohnonotmeagain · 15/01/2025 21:10

Don’t they just skip reception though and go into Year 1?

4.5 staring school makes him on the older side. It’s the just turned 4 children that tend to defer.

Scotland doesn't do Reception. All children start in P1. Will be at least 4.5 years old.

tellmesomethingtrue · 15/01/2025 23:11

Nochildcare · 15/01/2025 19:58

Yes their dad lives with us. The clubs avaliable are really expensive. Yes we could claim back on uc but only up to 85% and most of them finish around school pick up time here.

Other grandparent was going to take dc but can't as they've fallen very ill and in hospital.

85% is a lot to be able to claim back. More than most. Suck it up and pay for the clubs or take unpaid parental leave.

user243245346 · 15/01/2025 23:12

BlanketLanyard · 15/01/2025 21:41

This isn't about childcare but the deferral - I'm really surprised at the volume of replies against it. Guess they are not from Scots as most people I know have deferred their Feb born children (incl me) and I know several born in December and even one September born who were deferred (so almost 6 when starting P1).

Yes people seem to struggle to understand that not everyone lives in England. Both my kids are summer born so I didn't need to think of deferring but both have February born kids who were deferred in their class.

Nonaynevernomore · 15/01/2025 23:29

Nochildcare · 15/01/2025 20:05

Up to...we would maybe get 15% back I know it's better than nothing but would still be struggling

Well cut your cloth and struggle! We’ve all
had to do it!

CosyRoby · 15/01/2025 23:31

I don’t agree with deferrals
I’m in Scotland
My experience is the bigger older children that have been held back cause issues , particularly boys , they are bigger physically and it’s not fair.

ThatEllie · 15/01/2025 23:34

Nochildcare · 15/01/2025 21:18

Thanks to everyone who gave good suggestions, I will definitely be looking hard for some cheaper options. Dh doesn't earn much more than min wage for self employment but he enjoys it.

I think a lot of people have missed this, but this is really the problem. If he’s barely making any money then it is little better than a hobby job. He has children so he doesn’t have the luxury of doing that.

Are you the breadwinner? Or would you be if you were full-time? Either he gets a proper job that actually pays or you go full time and he does the childcare/school run/whatever. You can’t be financially drowning and desperately searching for childcare while he buries his head in the sand with a self-employed gig that barely pays.

I was wondering why your OP sounded like you were a single parent.

sweetkitty · 15/01/2025 23:41

My DD is an end of January birthday, started school at 4 1/2 one of the youngest in her year. Academically very able was fine all throughout school until university, the course she wanted to do involved moving away, she didn’t feel ready at 17 1/2 so she chose to leave school end of 5th year and do a HNC first at a local college. I much preferred her moving out as an 18 year old adult.

As a teacher I see it all the time, children who could have really benefitted from another year in nursery?, they are at school for years let them play for another year.

Lilactimes · 15/01/2025 23:43

Nochildcare · 15/01/2025 21:20

Thanks these all seem great ideas and spreadsheet also sounds like a fab idea, staring at the calander is hurting my head

i totally understand that @Nochildcare !
what I found helped was to take it slow and start early doing little bits every day.
i used to start with a making a calendar or schedule layout that worked for me visually. . Then block in public holidays and time you were planning to take off and maybe any key summer camps (I didn’t use these until DC in year 2) Then gradually chip away at remainder of days.
Send out a few messages to family who you think would do a few days and offer them as much flexibility as possible in choosing what works for them and pencil them in.
Ask a couple of school mums if they would be up for looking after your DC if you look after theirs for a few days. (I had this arrangement with a SAHM and looked after hers at weekends which she really appreciated).
Then maybe look for a nanny: au pair student for summer help - I always used Gumtree or an agency. You may not want to do this - but I found it brilliant and had same person from 5yo until 11 years old!
i used to try and work a 4 day week in some of the holidays.
i used to work on the schedule every day from March just doing a few things a day and usually by July I had filled up the summer and anything that I couldn’t think of I would take unpaid leave!
Hope it all works out … it does get easier…!! X

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/01/2025 00:40

jannier · 15/01/2025 22:08

Why do people assume your SE so you can take unpaid holidays as much as you want?

I didn’t say as much as he wants, but in most SE jobs you can take more than the tiny amount this guy is taking?

I used to be SE for many years and one of the things I liked was not being tied in to set amounts of holiday

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/01/2025 00:42

Nochildcare · 15/01/2025 20:51

Yes because I have a crystal ball to make me aware of original childcare falling through and needing my annual leave to cover it and not to spend our money on a holiday so our children can see their grandparents they've not seen in 8 months

I think it’s very obvious I’m not saying that!

AlexandrinaH · 16/01/2025 00:46

Nochildcare · 15/01/2025 20:33

I only get 3 weeks holiday as I work 3 days a week calculating to something like 16.4 holidays. I then have to keep some for new year (the one just gone) so that's 2 days. Then off easter that's 6. Then off summer that's another 3 and then xmas that's 5.

What?!

I work three mornings a week (Tues-Thurs) and get 22 days, on average, depending on when the bank holidays fall (as I don’t work Mondays or Fridays I get BH allowance).

Do you work Mondays? You sometimes lose days for this because of the way BH allowance works.

Sodullincomparison · 16/01/2025 01:12

If DH is self employed why can’t he work Saturday and Sundays in the holidays and therefore have his weekend during the week with the children.

that would leave one day per week to cover.

JontyGentoo · 16/01/2025 05:34

Ohnonotmeagain · 15/01/2025 22:26

It’s different in Scotland though- anyone in England would be 18 starting freshers week.

most of my friends at Edinburgh had taken up the option of deferring uni entry until they were 18, or stayed on at school in education. The only ones I knew at 17 were medics who had to do 6 years instead of 5 if they started at 18.

so a decision at reception age to avoid being under 18 for freshers week seems a bit unnecessary and extreme!

Edited

Well obviously the comment about Freshers week was a joke 🙄 as I didn’t base my decision on deferral for that reason alone. My son was born over 3 weeks early and had he born when he was due there would have been no need to defer. He’s the end of February so someone born a few days after him wouldn’t be starting school until the following year.

I didn’t want him to struggle through his school years academically trying to catch up with the older kids in his class and wanted to give him the best start. It is very common in Scotland to defer and as we get the funding to do that to me it was a no brainer.

Simonjt · 16/01/2025 05:41

BabyFever246 · 15/01/2025 21:00

Why would you defer a February child?

In Scotland a February baby will be the youngest in the year.

Simonjt · 16/01/2025 05:42

Ohnonotmeagain · 15/01/2025 21:10

Don’t they just skip reception though and go into Year 1?

4.5 staring school makes him on the older side. It’s the just turned 4 children that tend to defer.

4.5 will make him the youngest in the year.

gavinandstaceychristmasspecial · 16/01/2025 05:48

Holiday clubs are all very well and good but one of my kids is autistic and can't cope. I spend all my time getting her regulated for school as it is - putting her in a strange environment with strange people would be a bit much.

bloodredfeaturewall · 16/01/2025 05:51

when dc were little we sometimes had to tag-team for childcare.
one of us started work at silly o'clock with a changeover at lunch time.
important thing is that both parents pull their weight.

denhaag · 16/01/2025 07:39

gavinandstaceychristmasspecial · 16/01/2025 05:48

Holiday clubs are all very well and good but one of my kids is autistic and can't cope. I spend all my time getting her regulated for school as it is - putting her in a strange environment with strange people would be a bit much.

You have my sympathies, but this is not the issue OP has.

Vettrianofan · 16/01/2025 07:40

@BlanketLanyard one of my DC is September born and was deferred. He is P4 now and I have no regrets. His speech was delayed and having extra time in nursery was a blessing.

Thank goodness for living in Scotland!

Vettrianofan · 16/01/2025 07:48

CosyRoby · 15/01/2025 23:31

I don’t agree with deferrals
I’m in Scotland
My experience is the bigger older children that have been held back cause issues , particularly boys , they are bigger physically and it’s not fair.

My DS that is September born is built absolutely solid and plays rugby but he does need loads of extra support (OT assessments are currently in motion re: provisional diagnosis of dyspraxia).

Don't let physical attributes of other children be your guide as to which child is deserving of a deferral!

JimHalpertsWife · 16/01/2025 13:58

Nochildcare · 15/01/2025 22:04

He attends a different nursery (it's so hard having your child in same nursery as you i done it with my eldest and it was so hard to stay professional as you get to know the parents that dont give a shit if they hurt other children plus my dm helps out with school pick ups and nursery is across the road from school so she picks him up too)

I meant book the 4yp in to your work just on your summer working days, and keep his term time arrangements as is, not a permanent move.

LondonLawyer · 16/01/2025 16:22

Nochildcare · 15/01/2025 22:32

Sorry issues was probably the wrong word, their peers most likley be further into the stages of puberty before they are on the first stage. (My old boss done some sort of training and this came up on it)

My sister and I went to a primary school with only 6 classes, and most girls repeated a year at some point, but if you didn't, the school spat you out aged 10 and you went to secondary then. Sister and I both started secondary aged 10 (me 10 & 5 months, sister 10 & 3 months). Sister actually turned 17 just after finishing her A levels. This was in England. It caused absolutely no difficulty during school/puberty/etc but did mean a year's delay in going to university - unis in England aren't keen on under 18s.

lateatwork · 16/01/2025 16:49

CosyRoby · 15/01/2025 23:31

I don’t agree with deferrals
I’m in Scotland
My experience is the bigger older children that have been held back cause issues , particularly boys , they are bigger physically and it’s not fair.

You do know that not all big kids are thugs right?

berksandbeyond · 16/01/2025 17:16

Was it somehow surprising to you that you'd have to look after your own children?

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