Would you still go on this holiday?

[Whoareyouanyway]

I had annual leave approved for end of this month over 6 months ago, to go away for 3 days, and booked the trip the next day.
Yesterday my management announced mandatory training for these dates (as well as 35 other days between now and July)

They made a point of saying if you don't attend these mandatory sessions this will impact your job and you might have to be in training for longer (in my case it'll potentially add 4 months to my training).

I am still going, my leave was approved, I gave plenty of notice and this would inconvenience my partner who's coming as well as me.
They can't expect me to cancel a holiday with 2 weeks notice when I booked it over 6 weeks ago. Would you still go?

Agreed, but to be fair nothing about this situation seems to indicate that they are bothered about pissing their staff off!

I wouldn’t want to do four extra months of training in exchange for a three day holiday, but that’s just me.

I understand that side too, but it's the principle. Both myself and my partner will lose money, and it's not fair on him either.
As others have said it sets a precedent, and if I do it this time, who's to say they won't do it to me again?

You said in the OP that you had this approved over 6 months ago only started the job in November?

(UK) I think legally they can ask you to cancel your holiday. I believe they have to give notice of twice the amount of time off but definitely fact check me because - it’s really not in the spirit of good culture, and not one I therefore come across!

I would still go on the holiday if it was me, and I’d deal with the consequences (if any) after. But if they’re serious, call ACAS to understand your rights.

Check your holiday policy. Technically, most organisations are allowed to do this but the length of notice and any compensation due should be outlined in the AL policy.
Give ACAS a call as well, although they are likely to ask you for details of AL policy too.

Save yourself the stress and just join your union.

No they wouldn’t

So you've namechanged and posted again?

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5252249-would-you-find-this-job-situation-unreasonable?reply=141358757

If you started this job in November how was the leave approved 6 months ago?
Is it in house training or do they have to get people in to provide the training? If it’s the latter that’s probably why it will take longer for your training because they have to rely on the people’s schedules. It’s not that difficult you either cancel holiday and do the training or you go on the 3 day holiday and delay your training by 4 months.

@Whoareyouanyway I'd be questioning whether I'd want to work for a company that pulls stunts like that!

I'd go on holiday, have an amazing time, then start looking for another job.

Sounds like a shitty company to work for to be honest. Going by their principles they expect you to live to iWork.
Of course I'd still go on this holiday, no question about that at all.
Is looking for a different job an alternative for you? I couldn't work in a place like that.

They've no right to put two people hundreds of pounds out of pocket. Like I said who's to say they won't do it a second or third time?
I'll be going and looking for another job.

Well, legally they absolutely do have the right to, and legally they could absolutely do it a second time or a third time. It's a shitty thing to do though, and it would make me question whether it was a company I'd want to work for.

You live once- absolutely I’d go.

I'm just wondering how many companies operate like this?
Fortunately I've never had leave cancelled before. I've had a job phone me whilst on leave to ask if I could come in, but I said no.

I'd like to know how many in senior management would be expected to have their holidays cancelled?

In answer to your questions above, I think it's a pretty unusually shitty stance to take, and not many companies would do it. Probably the only exception to this would be if it was a designated training scheme and you were warned in advance about the number of set training days that flexibility would be required, Apart from that, most people, Senior Management or not, would not expect to have it happen and would not be happy about it.

That's all irrelevant to your situation though. They can legally do it, and they have.

You need to base your decisions on what you want to do based on how your company has behaved. This is the situation you are in. Your choices are:

Cancel your holiday and carry on as normal
Cancel your holiday and look for another job
Go on holiday and accept your training is extended for 4 months and carry on as normal
Go on holiday and look for another job.

That's all.

Still go, it would be impossible to arrange training where the whole company / relevant people could attend as someone would undoubtably be off for some reason or another
If you think the training would be beneficial to you can you ask for a recording of it or the power point presentation, failing that maybe they could send you on another training course at some other time

35 mandatory training days between now and July is 6 days a month! What on earth is needing that much training?

A 29.5k salary with zero qualifications apparently !

I wouldn’t leave my job because of it if I was generally happy with the job, in a way it’s good that they are offering so much training days
If you have no qualifications will you be qualified in something (that you want ) by the end of all the training or if you stay with the company for a couple of years.

Training days are sometimes easier than actual working days and it’s a positive thing that the company is dedicated to putting so much into training it’s staff

What industry / job are you in

What sort of industry are you in? Sounds bonkers.