Dispatches- Britain’s Benefit scandal

[Sunnywalker]

Anybody watched this? It’s made me so angry. Some highlights include a company that can’t recruit an apprentice on 26k because sickness benefits would amount to 24k so it wouldn’t be worth it. 500,000, 25-34 years old on long term sick, a woman who has never had a FT job and claims 35k in benefits, this lady would like to work but says will never achieve the same income if she worked.

This country is bankrupt, public services crumbling! What is going on? Why isn’t there an overhaul!

Bloody hell, that's a lot. I'm curious, what costs are incurred due to disability? Do you have to pay carers out of that money, buy specialist food....

The highest rate of pip is extremely difficult to qualify for.
My grandson has quadraplegic ceribal palsy. He cannot walk, his hands are twisted so much that he has difficulty using them so can do very little for himself.
When he reached 16 and had to transfer from dla to pip, he got zero points at assessment . It stayed at zero points after mandatory reconsideration.
It took 18 months to go to tribunal where he was awarded enhanced rate on both for 10 years

You both need to educate yourself having a diagnosis of ADHD doesn't guarantee a DLA award. It's how the diagnosis impacts a person so if they don't need any additional help they won't get an award I suspect the pp was being deliberately inflammatory.

In any casethey aresupposed to bring in more revenue through tourists. Believe that if you like. I don't. Thyre in it for themselves not us

I earn a little over MW claim pip and UC - I'm not sure what associated benefits your talking about but this screams of yet anothet post where people think they are somehow qualified to comment but have no factual knowledge.

@caringcarer that's why I don't believe in any buy to let's over35% of a property's value and why mass investment in social and not for profit housing needed. I accept that would take a lot of time to sort - however if you genuinely can't afford to be letting out property without worrying about a months void , repairs or changing interest rates you should be selling - not renting out

I agree

benefits are low and if just on regular UC it’s really not great - but the poster is referring to the 35K plus sums handed out if claimants “entitled” to disability benefits in the form of PIP and/or DLA and/or ESA. Then you can easily pull in 5.5K monthly - which you are right is equivalent of 100k Salary.

Fuck me! I’ve just looked into it, it seems like I would qualify for PIP at enhanced rates and standard rate for mobility!! How much do I get?

You get called to all sorts here. And then you get sanctioned if you have a hospital appointment for example and can’t attend. So you lose your benefits for a bit.

If you are lucky you might know how to appeal. If not, it’s the food bank and rent arrears.

Honestly, the last government hugely cut benefits, eligibility for them and made them really difficult for people to claim. And did a lot of the stuff people here are asking for (workhouses and equivalent aside). Even they had the morals to stop when they realised it was killing a lot of people.

At what point here are people going to think this isn’t working we need to try something different?

if they can work for their benefits just give them the actual job and pay them a wage.

Just fantastic .

Hence you got a Thanks from Me.

OP YABU
Try living on UC (without DLA, or this or that for disabled kids etc etc) for a Year then get back to Us!!
Sick of being Demonized by the likes of smug You

The thing is if someone has a mental health condition like agoraphobia staying at home living on disability benefits isn't going to help them.

I get benefits, mid stage Parkinson’s, at 62, simply unfit for working, not what I chose, luckily no housing costs. Pip is being reviewed in March , criteria will change.
Gov has it in for long term disabled, will deter the chancers tho
Personally I’m concerned

Well they could apply for a job and get it- pretty simple

Good luck (and I mean it) 😅

DM is terminally ill, struggles to move without help, I pay out of pocket for laundry (incontinent), caring help, a mobility scooter, a wheelchair, the extra clothes etc associated because somehow she's still not eligible for PIP! 😬

TBF, when you have threads (like this morning) where someone on £120k is complaining they lose their childcare benefit you can see how this happens.

If someone on £120k a year thinks they are hard done by to give up their benefits, then what hope is there for anyone on less?

That's shocking. I would want someone like him to get the maximum +. I would happily pay more taxes for a genuine disability than all the other anxiety piss takers.
Glad he's been assessed and sorted. Hope he got it backdated too x

The programme was about people claiming the benefits for sickness and disability, I think that's where the higher amounts come in

Did you not see the rates for enhanced, and standard? It is all there on the information website. It is one thing to believe what you think you may be able to claim, and quite another thing trying to actually get it!

I understand these programs are made to exaggerate and shock but if even half of what is being shown is true I'm honestly disgusted.

Not only do they get £132 million in public funds to cover their costs, but they also rake in millions as LLs from publically owned companies like the NHS and RNLI. They are also raking in profits from mining, destroying local environments and impacting the wider environment, and on top of that they are slumlords and pay no tax.

If any other business or LL was behaving this way there would be a public uproar but because their last name is Windsor it's fine? But Mrs Jones and her four disabled kids getting enough money to eat is an issue?

If someone wants to swap, they can have my PIP/UC and I'll have their health and job. Any day of the week.

Exactly. They should go out to work.

Take no notice
She is full of smugness and has no idea.

Do you even know what agoraphobia is?

Yes, just tell them to go out and work. It would be like telling someone with a broken leg to run a marathon.