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Foodbank buying items from shops?

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girlfriend44 · 04/01/2025 21:57

I always thought that foodbanks were given out of date stock when I saw them collecting from shops and supermarkets.
I have now found out they buy items from certain retailers at a reduced price.
They put orders in. Where does the money come from to purchase?
Also they have vans, which cost money in petrol etc.
Anyone else think the same, never realised they were collecting stuff they had ordered in. I thought it was donated to them?÷

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NotThisYearThx · 04/01/2025 23:53

Soangerb · 04/01/2025 22:01

Food banks started with good intentions but are now just completely broken. Around here you have people who have factored in the free food bank food in to their costs, it’s not an ‘emergency’ need but something they account for so they can spend money on other things. “Build it and they will come”.
i have no doubt some are in desperate need but unfortunately many have become reliant on them for all the wrong reasons.

Where did you get this from? Do you have any sources for this?

SantaBakula · 04/01/2025 23:55

DingDongAlong · 04/01/2025 23:41

@SantaBakula I saw it yesterday and just edited our current shop to check where it was. You can choose your own amount to donate too. It's on the very last page after you've paid for your online shop. My computer is a bit slow to load all the elements on the page, and it's one of the last ones, but it's blue and appears at the top. The text says it's part of Tesco's winter food collection for the Trussell Trust, so presuming it won't be there all year round.

You can also donate Tesco clubcard vouchers too (for anyone who's interested).

Thankyou, I will have a look for it tomorrow when I do my shopping.

CrowleyKitten · 04/01/2025 23:59

Nanny0gg · 04/01/2025 22:21

Our foodbanks have a 'treat' shelf with all the extras people donate that aren't on the list

People are allowed to choose a couple of items from there when they go.

A nice morale boost

we got pesto, anchovies and olives from our "oddities" table. gave my friend (Who also often needs a food bank) the olives as a christmas present.
people don't realise what real life is like for so many people. especially if someone in the household is disabled.

Talkingfrog · 05/01/2025 00:01

May vary from food bank to food bank, but they get donations in numbers of ways, which could include (in no particular order).

People donating food directly to the foodbank
People leaving food donations in drop of points in supermarkets (and elsewhere)
People making cash donations to the foodbank
Grants or funding that they can apply for
Collections done in places such as schools, churches etc, especially at times such as harvest (eg at harvest schools may ask for a food item in exchange for a non uniform day).

If they get donations, grants or other funding they use that to buy, often in bulk the items they need the most. People donating items may not know what is needed the most, so they could end up with lots of certain products, and not enough of others.

The food given out is in date - food banks usually request items will a long date stamp on, and often date the top of the tin/carton before putting it on the shelf so things are given out in date order.

Some food banks also offer fresh items, but it will depend on how that food bank works and where it gets its supplies from.

Still a support to people, but in a different way, some work more like a community pantry where people can pick a certain number of items from different types of products - sometimes paid for at a reduced rate other times free.

There are some organisations that use things that may otherwise be disposed of by supermarkets, but sometimes they cook meals with things that they are sure can still be used.

The foodbank I support is organised by those from a local church. Some of the volunteers are also from the church, others from the local community. The food bank is given food donations, and cash donations. They order food items that are needed -from the cash donations/funding. Knowing the people involved means I can ask exactly what they need most before purchasing.

Another foodbank I know of has a few drop off points local areas (a few houses, and a church in one village a few miles away from the foodbank). They collect each week from those drop off points. They also have a shop and sell second hand furniture, both so it is more affordable to people, and to raise funds.

There is no one way that food banks get the food - it all varies.

CrowleyKitten · 05/01/2025 00:02

mumda · 04/01/2025 22:23

Additional staff, storage and distribution costs make foodbanks an extra layer of doo-gooder interference.

well, I was very grateful for the food bank during ian duncan smiths reign of terror, when my husband was denied his disability benefits and we had to appeal and for about five months were down by more than the cost of our rent.
if his parents weren't in a position to support us, we'd have lost our home

BadeballSkihipto · 05/01/2025 00:02

Good buyers.

valentinka31 · 05/01/2025 00:06

What is the logic that people who need help with food should be given out of date food that other people would not want to eat?

Should charity be a process of additional humiliation for people who must be in a very challenging situation in the first place to be referred for the food bank?

If I had something out of date in my fridge, and I had decided to help someone who was hungry, I would be ashamed to give them what I wouldn't eat myself. I'd rather give them the nicest food I had.

CrowleyKitten · 05/01/2025 00:06

StScholastica · 04/01/2025 22:36

And how long do you deem is "long enough" for someone to get back on their feet exactly? 2 weeks? Three weeks?
It's abhorrent that as a society we need food banks at all, much worse that we judge people who have to use them.

took us four months to get my husbands refused disability benefits back. it left us worse off by more than our rent, every month. fortunately, on the mandatory reconsideration, it was correctly reinstated.

ScholesPanda · 05/01/2025 00:07

"Hello hungry person, have some out of date chicken"

"What do you mean your kids got campylobacter last time?"

purdypuma · 05/01/2025 00:08

A lot of food banks local to me will only allow a specified number of food parcels to individuals within a certain period of time eg 6 months & then they have to wait eg 6 months before they are eligible again. This has been standard for quite some time now as some had developed a dependency on the foodbanks & instead were choosing to buy drugs and/or alcohol instead of food. In the cases of substance users (drugs/alcohol in most cases) most prefer simple uncomplicated food requiring little to no preparation eg pot noodles or pasties.

MILLYmo0se · 05/01/2025 00:21

Unescorted · 04/01/2025 23:02

Not all food banks operate in the same way... Many are independent, especially in more rural areas. Some will be by referral others allow self referrals. People can self refer to the one I work at. Because it is in a small community we find it is when people are truly desperate that they call us. There is very little / no piss taking.

We deliver in our own cars and I have yet to claim petrol money.

We get cash donations from people who have their own groceries delivered and local businesses. Also some legacies in people's wills.

We buy in groceries of all sorts... Not gluten free because we have a very generous donor that gives us more than we can use. But we do buy in things like nappies if needed as well as things we run out of. We can't rely solely on donations which come in waves... ATM we have more cereal and meatballs than we know what to do with, but have run out of rice and cat food.

The supermarket doesn't give us a discount...we get a standard delivery once a week which we order on line.

Re stuff from hampers... If it has alcohol in then we can't give it out (other FB might). Anything obviously Christmasy packaged we keep forgetting next year now... Unless it goes out of date before then... In which case we offer it up to other FB and community kitchens.

Opened or out of date things we can't give out.

Somehow I don't think the OP will feel like people using food banks should have pets either....

TiredYetWired · 05/01/2025 00:23

I volunteered at a foodbank years ago (disappointed they are now a part of the fabric but that's another debate) and people would regularly give cash donations so off we went to the local supermarket and bought the staples/whats actually need, as food donations are not hugely consistent. Not sure why you'd even think this was an issue.....MN though, innit

CrowleyKitten · 05/01/2025 00:27

theriseandfallofFranklinSaint · 04/01/2025 23:30

@Nanny0gg that's good to know as I always donate 'treat' items - biscuits, crisps, etc. (as well as basics like cereal) as families need nice things to eat as well as tinned goods and the basics often donated.

the good thing is, things like biscuits and crisps ARE likely to be included in the main parcel. ours was the week before Christmas, and we had some fancy harrods chutney, mince pies, some chocolates and biscuits etc. alongside the staples.
they also asked about if we had any pets that needed feeding. but as I had rats, not cats or dogs, they didn't have any policies for that, but after discussing it with me, they gave us extra cereal and pasta.

handsdownthebest · 05/01/2025 00:35

Food banks are not allowed to collect or hand out ‘out of date’ food and are highly regulated.
Vans are paid for and run by donations and fundraising. Sometimes food such as staples especially tin tomatoes and baked beans have to bought in.
why don’t you go and volunteer at one to find out how they work and look after people in food poverty in this country?

Crazybaby123 · 05/01/2025 00:35

PrincessofWells · 04/01/2025 22:49

Well surprise, surprise, most homeless people have mobiles and so they should - they couldn't function without them. So judgy and tbh abhorrent attitude here.

Exactly, I don't get how people are so clueless, do some people just not concern themselves with anything about other people to the point where they think homeless people are all old men from the 1890s, living under bridges feeding from the bins and tying their trousers up with string. Some people really have their heads up their bums.

CarolinaWren · 05/01/2025 00:41

KnewYearKnewMe · 04/01/2025 23:33

All, I'm sure @RegulatorsMountUp must be on a wind up.

I refuse to believe anyone is that ignorant of the working poor in this day and age.

I don't know. I recall a celebrity interview once where the person self righteously criticized people who had fallen on hard times, as this person stated that she had had times where she wasn't working and she had to sell some of her jewelry collection for money to pay her bills. She didn't understand why poor people didn't just do that.

TeabySea · 05/01/2025 00:42

People donate money to foodbanks.
People who use them have allergies/intolerances and can't just have the standard stuff.
Our local buys things like dairy-free subs, eggs, and occasional treats.
Fortunately I'm in a relatively affluent area (in the main) and people are happy to help out with donations, time and organisation. Lots of shops donate end of day produce with short dates.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/01/2025 00:44

RegulatorsMountUp · 04/01/2025 22:08

Probably just avoid bread and eat what I could eat which didn't contain allergens. I certainly wouldn't ask a charity to buy in specific foods for me. Then I'd work my arse off to feed myself and family from my own means 🤷‍♀️

It's not just bread that's necessary to avoid - it's pasta (a very common foodbank item because of it being a cheap source of calories), noodles, most cereals, pulses, grains and other foods that aren't long shelf life either contain or are likely to be contaminated by gluten during manufacture. If I were dependent upon a foodbank for whatever reason, I'd have to ask for things labelled gluten free rather than risk being made ill.

It's bad enough for somebody being poor, we don't have to say 'well, you can live upon boiled potatoes three times a day, starve, be in excruciating pain or have us contribute towards your eventual death from cancer, then' as punishment.

MaterCogitaVera · 05/01/2025 01:24

Whatever the point of this thread was, it’s prompted me order some of the things from my local foodbank’s Amazon wish list, so thanks for that, OP!

SantaBakula · 05/01/2025 01:31

MaterCogitaVera · 05/01/2025 01:24

Whatever the point of this thread was, it’s prompted me order some of the things from my local foodbank’s Amazon wish list, so thanks for that, OP!

I think the op was hoping for a pile on the 'greedy / lazy ' sods that use the food banks .
But the opposite has happened, its raised awareness, proved links to how to and who to donate to .
So thank you @girlfriend44

MrsKwazi · 05/01/2025 01:36

Soangerb · 04/01/2025 22:01

Food banks started with good intentions but are now just completely broken. Around here you have people who have factored in the free food bank food in to their costs, it’s not an ‘emergency’ need but something they account for so they can spend money on other things. “Build it and they will come”.
i have no doubt some are in desperate need but unfortunately many have become reliant on them for all the wrong reasons.

i stopped donating to food banks when I read a thread on here about families accessing food banks for 2+ years continuously, and then learned this was a regular thing. And ‘shopping’ at the food bank.

The reason why there are more food banks than ever is because people cottoned on to how the system works. Same with our country’s bloated benefits bill. Food is an emotive subject, no one want to see anybody go hungry, so people donate and keeps the whole thing going.

thomasinacat · 05/01/2025 01:39

Nanny0gg · 04/01/2025 22:23

I tried that too.

Got nowhere

Surely a separate box for foodbank items isn't beyond the realms of coding - and a separate bag on the picker's trolley

Ocado has managed it. You can now add £2.50, £5 or £10 donations for food bank to your online shopping trolley and they match it, then convert to groceries for distribution to food banks. Well done Ocado.

PeppyGreenFinch · 05/01/2025 01:41

MrsKwazi · 05/01/2025 01:36

i stopped donating to food banks when I read a thread on here about families accessing food banks for 2+ years continuously, and then learned this was a regular thing. And ‘shopping’ at the food bank.

The reason why there are more food banks than ever is because people cottoned on to how the system works. Same with our country’s bloated benefits bill. Food is an emotive subject, no one want to see anybody go hungry, so people donate and keeps the whole thing going.

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I used to donate regularly but have stopped as I instead donate to developing countries now.

RubyOrca · 05/01/2025 02:26

RegulatorsMountUp · 04/01/2025 22:04

Why can't you buy it yourself? I thought foodbanks were temporary support for basics not a regular option or meeting 'dietary requirements' surely you'd just pick up the basics from them and buy whatever special goods you need yourself? I can't imagine being unable to afford to feed myself and then asking for specific foods for free from charity. Maybe I just don't understand how this new world works.

Count yourself lucky that you can’t imagine being unable to afford food. Sadly, many people struggle to afford the absolute basics (food, shelter, healthcare). I’m not in the UK, but none of these are completely free in my country. Then you add things like education (also not free, but mandatory) for kids and it doesn’t take long to see how people struggle.

Charities continue to provide and advocate for those who are struggling. Including providing food.

It’s nice to be able to think that this is just something people deal with for a week or two, but poverty is more pervasive than that. No amount of budgeting and tightening the belt can get you around an income that is below what you need to manage. Food banks make a difference for people week in week out. Including for people with medical food restrictions.