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Foodbank buying items from shops?

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girlfriend44 · 04/01/2025 21:57

I always thought that foodbanks were given out of date stock when I saw them collecting from shops and supermarkets.
I have now found out they buy items from certain retailers at a reduced price.
They put orders in. Where does the money come from to purchase?
Also they have vans, which cost money in petrol etc.
Anyone else think the same, never realised they were collecting stuff they had ordered in. I thought it was donated to them?÷

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godmum56 · 04/01/2025 23:08

FoxInTheForest · 04/01/2025 23:06

I thought there was a system where people needed referring to them and it was only short term for each referral?

It varies from place to place and between organisations. Loads of info on this thread from actual people who work in them

DorianMeile · 04/01/2025 23:08

Olderkids · 04/01/2025 23:06

Get a job?

There are full time shop assistants, nurses, people working in hospitality, charity workers etc who all use food banks because their wages don't cover their rent/utilities/emergencies such as broken down car which needs fixing/transport/groceries. Have you missed that we are in a cost of living crisis and it's not just those who don't work that can't afford to live?

TopshopCropTop · 04/01/2025 23:09

Olderkids · 04/01/2025 23:06

Get a job?

Oh to be this delusional and sheltered from reality to think that no working people are using food banks.

BIossomtoes · 04/01/2025 23:10

I have a monthly direct debit to our local foodbank specifically so they can do this.

ANGIEPANGY77 · 04/01/2025 23:10

I regularly contribute monetarily to the local food bank. I'm bothered to think of anyone going hungry due to lack of resources.

DownThePubWithStevieNicks · 04/01/2025 23:11

RegulatorsMountUp · 04/01/2025 22:04

Why can't you buy it yourself? I thought foodbanks were temporary support for basics not a regular option or meeting 'dietary requirements' surely you'd just pick up the basics from them and buy whatever special goods you need yourself? I can't imagine being unable to afford to feed myself and then asking for specific foods for free from charity. Maybe I just don't understand how this new world works.

What would you do then? Eat things you were allergic to or made you ill?

What you really mean is ‘I can’t imagine being unable to to afford to feed myself’, and the rest of your words are superfluous and offensive.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 04/01/2025 23:12

FoxInTheForest · 04/01/2025 23:06

I thought there was a system where people needed referring to them and it was only short term for each referral?

As someone else said, there are different types of food banks and some are independent. But where I volunteer we are affiliated to a national trust, and you cannot come more than a certain number of times within a certain number of months. It is not meant to replace benefits, just tide people over. Having said that, the rules have changed as the CoL crisis bites more deeply. You do need a voucher from someone authorised to give them out. Having said that, we also run a cafe, and have racks of non standard food on them (christmas puddings at this time of year, for example). People can come along to that as often as they like. We also have some people who grown fresh produce on their allotments and that is available in the cafe for people to collect and take home with them too.

PreferMyAnimals · 04/01/2025 23:14

girlfriend44 · 04/01/2025 22:13

Fair enough, but who pays the van and the running costs?

They are often volunteers volunteering with their own vehicle. Unless the charity is lucky enough to have been donated one or able to buy one themselves.

LucieChardon · 04/01/2025 23:14

I volunteer at our local foodbank, which is run mainly by volunteers and a handful of paid employees. We're a charity, we apply for grants and rely on donations to keep running the organisation (paid staff, office, warehouse and vehicles).

We are not allowed to give out-of-date foods. All our clients are referred by agencies such as GPs, schools, Women's Aid, refugee groups for example. Clients are supported for a fixed number of weeks and if they need more they need to be vetted & referred by the agency again. Many of our clients are also in work, but that's not enough to feed them.

We rarely get donations of fresh foods (but would give them out when this happens), we mainly parcel out tinned goods. It's time consuming sorting the incoming donations, takes a lot of tedious manpower to keep donations organised, and it just wastes our time when we find we've just been given 10 jars of Best Before 2023 fish paste spread... (happened this week, I kid you not.)

Thank you to everyone who donate or volunteer for foodbanks. I wish they didn't have to exist, but I'm grateful that there is help out there for those who need it.

FleaDog · 04/01/2025 23:17

gamerchick · 04/01/2025 22:47

Ok and? What's your point?

The point is the poster is explaining how the out of date food can have a purpose and still be used, as the assumption of out of date food may be given to foodbanks is cleared up.

Just, you know, nice to know? Useful to know? Someone night read that post and think that's a brilliant super savvy way to access free food and strech it out, maybe someone tjat needs a foodbank, maybe someone that uses a foodbank, maybe soneone that could benefit a foodbank but doesnt want to have to speak up and say they are struggling, or don't mert the criteria even if they are on the bones of their arse, or someone that is really having to watch their finances.

I tjought it was a useful post and will be another option sone people might want to see if it is available in their area.

Stanlow · 04/01/2025 23:17

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AliceMcK · 04/01/2025 23:17

RegulatorsMountUp · 04/01/2025 22:05

This is what this thread is making me wonder. I thought food banks were temporary measures to cover the basics for a short time whilst someone gets back on their feet.

Sadly it’s not always easy for people to get on their feet. We live in a world where we have professionals including nurses, teachers and many other of our much needed civil servants relying on food banks regularly and not because they are not working hard to get back on their feet.

There are always going to be people who abuse the system. I know for a fact there are several families who claim benefits, claim PIP, use local food banks but have money to spend on drugs every week around here. I had this conversation recently with a woman who got angry about it, she couldn’t understand how I am ok with donating, my response to her was that regardless of these people’s actions their children are not to blame and need food.

The people running the banks can’t judge and pick and choose who to donate to because it will be the vulnerable children who miss out.

Optigan · 04/01/2025 23:18

What are the most useful things to donate to a foodbank? I have always assumed 'staples that have long dates and are quick to cook ' such as rice and pasta, but a pp suggests there might be a surplus of those.

user1492757084 · 04/01/2025 23:21

Food banks are varied. There are the food banks that resemble food co-ops and shops where people can walk in.

Some provide ready made meals using about to expire fresh produce donated by restaurants and farmers. Donating money allows them to purchase other ingredients needed.
Some of these charities have greatly expanded their output due to the donations of money and fridges and freezers from the King's charities and generous people from all walks of life.

Many food banks are faith based charities such as Pecan and local government assisted trusts. A few are privately run at the instigation of one person. Donations of money, food and labour are used.
I have worked at a soup kitchen, along with many others, and see production of nutritious meals out of would be thrown out food. As a society we waste a lot of food. A little money, labour and good planning goes a long way.

Crazybaby123 · 04/01/2025 23:21

Foodbanks get donations in money and food. A lot of prople give up their time to campaign for money donations as the food donations arent enough.

SantaBakula · 04/01/2025 23:22

DingDongAlong · 04/01/2025 23:05

We donate monthly by standing order to our local food bank. It's harder for us to donate particular items so I figured they could use the money however helps. Although today I spotted that Tesco have an online donation option on their online shopping website (right at the very end after you've paid, just wait and it appears at the top of the page).

As a family buying GF foods, the cost really adds onto a regular shop and we have a decent income. I can't imagine struggling to buy food and then having to factor a dietary need on top of that. When my child eats gluten, she's unwell, which impacts on my employment as well as her school attendance. Providing GF foods to a food bank could be the difference in a parent remaining employed and a child receiving a good education.

Ooh mentioned this uptrend ( 22.20 & 22.40) I haven't noticed anything like that and was told ( about 3 months ago ) it wasn't possible.
Other posters have said the same. I will have a look in a bit .

Grumpyoldblonde · 04/01/2025 23:23

Optigan · 04/01/2025 23:18

What are the most useful things to donate to a foodbank? I have always assumed 'staples that have long dates and are quick to cook ' such as rice and pasta, but a pp suggests there might be a surplus of those.

What they ask for really.

I've donated pet food, toothbrushes, toothpaste, soap, sanitary protection, washing up liquid and laundry detergent because that's what my foodbank was running low of. Plus lots of biscuits because they're filling, calorific and comforting.

All foodbanks publish lists of needs but take cash donations they can use better than we can guess.

Hazylazydays · 04/01/2025 23:24

Whoknowsnotmeshrug · 04/01/2025 22:39

Those questioning how long food banks offer support:

We offer 2 food parcels for a month for 3 months and then once a month. We have some users for the last 3 years but often families dip in and out as required.

We ask for evidence that they need to service which alines with what the charity commission suggest.

What evidence do they provide?

Lightuptheroom · 04/01/2025 23:25

As has been said, there are different types of this service.
In my area we have a 'food bank' which is by referral only and basically emergency supplies (so yes, people will have dietary requirements as I'm sure no one wants their children or themselves to be ill as well as struggling!!) These are often affliated to the The Trussell Trust or similar.
Then, we also have a 'community fridge' where the purpose is to stop excess food going into landfill and very much helps those who wouldn't qualify for a food bank referral (helps because there's a lot of people being badly hit by the cost of living crisis and the government's decision to means test the winter fuel payments, there's a very real problem with having to chose between heating or eating, I say that as someone who works full time with a retired husband, rent and utilities take up a lot of my salary) and also stops food waste. All the food is in date but is surplus to what the supermarkets can sell. Ours is free.
Then, quite a few local councils have set up another type where you pay £2.50 or similar and you can fill up a bag.
Food banks raise money because they can't rely on the surplus donations meeting peoples needs and some areas don't have sufficient volunteers to run a food bank in the first place.

JustKeepSwimmingJust · 04/01/2025 23:25

Areolaborealis · 04/01/2025 22:47

Following with interest. I thought I'd misheard the Sainsbury's delivery driver when he said he'd just done a delivery to the local foodbank.

That’s probably more efficient than all the costs of owning and running a van as a small charity that needs a food shop once or twice a week.

SilviaDaisyPouncer · 04/01/2025 23:26

I have been given out of date food at a food bank previously. There were some cans that were two years out of date. I only noticed when I opened one because it smelled strange. I'm not in the habit of checking dates, so I hope that was the only time they gave me OOD food.

There's no chance they didn't have the opportunity to notice. They made a point of giving everyone these particular cans.

Edit to add that they often gave me food that was very close to being out of date, particularly fruit and vegetables that had to be eaten immediately. It wasn't great to try and live on these bits.

mummy3456 · 04/01/2025 23:26

It seems a very complex way to go about it. Wouldn't a voucher for the local supermarket ( given by the council or the GP or social worker etc) be smarter and easier? Then people could buy what they want and need.
I'm not in the UK and find the whole system very weird. You are wealthy but people have to ask someone for free food.
We do have here a couple of charities that get deliveries from major supermarkets and local bakeries etc of food that they wouldn't be able to sell the next day. The charity makes all the food into hot meals available to anyone that wants it. The Hari Krishnas do the same - free vegie lunches everyday.
There's another charity that goes out at night and gives out free hot meals to the homeless. They do need to raise some money but the vast majority of cooks and delivery drivers are volunteers.
The homeless community is also quite concentrated in city areas and are by far the biggest users of these services.
The samaritans do things like xmas hampers for families having a rough time.
I'm qquite surprised that the UK has so many poor people.

jannier · 04/01/2025 23:26

RegulatorsMountUp · 04/01/2025 22:04

Why can't you buy it yourself? I thought foodbanks were temporary support for basics not a regular option or meeting 'dietary requirements' surely you'd just pick up the basics from them and buy whatever special goods you need yourself? I can't imagine being unable to afford to feed myself and then asking for specific foods for free from charity. Maybe I just don't understand how this new world works.

So people with allergies etc can just starve? Special food is not always a choice and is more expensive but ignoring it can kill you.
Many people have.no choice but to use food banks as an ongoing thing I know nurses who have to use them because wages are insufficient and housing costs too much.

InfoSecInTheCity · 04/01/2025 23:27

Optigan · 04/01/2025 23:18

What are the most useful things to donate to a foodbank? I have always assumed 'staples that have long dates and are quick to cook ' such as rice and pasta, but a pp suggests there might be a surplus of those.

This is the list of stuff my local food bank doesn't have enough of. Red is really low supplies, yellow is low supplies. This is from the Bank the Food app which is used by a lot of food banks across the country to update their stocks.

Foodbank buying items  from shops?
Foodbank buying items  from shops?
Foodbank buying items  from shops?