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AIBU to not go to my brother’s wedding

16 replies

Myeyesareopen · 02/01/2025 11:01

My older brother has for a long time made me very uncomfortable and uneasy.

He is a skilled professional in his field of work, handsome, charming, and at times very generous, but he is also volatile and aggressive. He can be highly manipulative and lies easily (and sometime unnecessarily, I think he enjoys it.)

A while ago he went through a period of ill mental health and would call me up at all times of the day ranting in a cyclical fashion, not listening to any words of comfort or advice. I had to stop taking his calls as they upset me too much, and he told me I was cold hearted and only looking out for myself. If I make a decision which doesn’t suit his agenda, (such as refusing to drive my young children across the country to attend an evening adult party,) he tells me I am selfish.

He dominates every conversation to make them about himself or steer towards a topic he will then lecture on. In conversation, he will ignore people that do not interest him, such as my little brother, unless he needs something from them. In the past year, he has not asked me a question about myself, about my life, my career. He occasionally asks about my children, but when I answer he will hijack the conversation to talk about himself when he was a child.

He has bigoted, homophobic and mysognistic opinions which jar with my values, and can be aggressive and violent when drinking. He will not have a glass or two, he will drink everything in the house until there is an incident. My family used to think he had a drink problem; I think it is more than likely a personality problem which is exacerbated with drink. He seems to manage this by not drinking for long periods of time, and then everyone uneasily gets along, until the next time he drinks (and there is always a next time.)

If you do not agree with him or call him out on his aggressive behaviour, he becomes dark and scary, will refuse to accept responsibility, deny all bad behaviour (tell me he didn’t behave in the way I literally just witnessed,) then eventually he will either apologise that I am upset (not for his behaviour, it’s “I’m sorry you feel that way,”) or he has, in the past, become violent.

For years I have kept him at a distance, maintaining minimal contact for the protection of myself and my family.

However, recently my mother died, and as my father also died 10+ years ago, I felt I had to step into the ‘mother’ role in the family and rally my brothers around me as they were both very upset. Therefore, we have been seeing more of each other as I have been hosting Christmas for everyone, etc.

My brother became engaged in the last year. His fiancée will not live with him until they are married, therefore I worry that she does not know what he is really like. She has seen him drunk on one occasion and was shocked.

She is a very sweet, gentle woman and I worry greatly that he will abuse her once they are married. He had a previous marriage which ended due to abuse. He wants to have kids right away but does not want to be active in raising them. I feel sick when I think about children having him as a father, as I worry he will physically and emotionally abuse them when he feels he cannot control them.

My brother and I fell out recently as I refused to accept his aggressive and bigoted behaviour in my home. He left without apologising, then later text to say he was sorry he upset me; he knows he was out of line.

I have decided that I will not participate in this cyclical, abusive relationship with him and plan to have no contact once my mother's house is sold.

The issue is, he is getting married this year. I do not know whether I should ‘grey rock’ for the sake of not rocking the boat or upsetting other family members and attend the wedding and smile and make all the right noises, or whether I should tell him that my family and I will not be attending, as I do not think he should marry this sweet girl and cannot in good conscience condone it.

I am afraid for when I do cut ties as he can be ruthless when seeking revenge. We are trying to sell my mother's house and it would not surprise me if he obstructed this, as he does not need the money (but my younger brother and I do.) I am also afraid that if his fiancee does leave him, he will blame me and seek revenge (and I am terrified for myself and my children of what this could be.)

I would be interested to hear from anyone who has gone through similar – what your decision was, what the fallout was, and how you managed it.

YABU – I should go to the wedding, grey rock and smile and then gently reduce contact afterwards

YANBU – I should tell my brother I will not be going to the wedding as I do not feel comfortable, and accept whatever revenge he comes up with.

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Thelondonone · 02/01/2025 11:06

The wedding will happen whether you are there or not. So unless you are going to tell his fiancée that’s he’s a cunt, you may as well go. I would certainly go if the house is not sold by then. You need to protect yourself. I fear that if you were the messenger, you could get hurt.

TooManyCupsAndMugs · 02/01/2025 11:07

If the house sale isn't sorted by the wedding, go, be polite and cut contact once house is sorted. If it is all done, RSVP saying you not going. And block on all channels. You don't need permission to cut contact.

Itisjustmyopinion · 02/01/2025 11:10

Your attendance or lack of will not make a difference to whether their relationship is a success or not. Seems a bit daft in this day and age to not fully know what a partner is like before marrying them but that’s not your responsibility

You need to be selfish and just protect yourself both emotionally and financially. Any fall out from his behaviour should not impact you

FranticHare · 02/01/2025 11:12

Sounds horrible.

I would still go to the wedding - make sure you have a plan to leave if anything kicks off due to the alcohol - and then start to fade once your mums estate has been sorted. You don't want that getting blocked by him.

As far as his fiancé is concerned, there is little you can do. Even if you do talk to her she is unlikely to listen. She loves the version of your brother he has presented, and unfortunately she will find out the hard way like so many others.

wizzywig · 02/01/2025 11:13

Jeez he sounds scary. Is the house sale due to be finished before the wedding? I have no idea how you can help your soon to be sister in law without incurring his wrath

CrotchetyQuaver · 02/01/2025 11:13

Keep things as they are until the house is sold, I found it quite easy to keep to this myself when I was in the same situation. Once that's gone through and he hasn't got anything significant to control you with, you're free to do whatever you want. I'm very low contact (almost no contact really) with my brother now, sad, but it is what it is. You are definitely not alone!

Myeyesareopen · 02/01/2025 11:14

Itisjustmyopinion · 02/01/2025 11:10

Your attendance or lack of will not make a difference to whether their relationship is a success or not. Seems a bit daft in this day and age to not fully know what a partner is like before marrying them but that’s not your responsibility

You need to be selfish and just protect yourself both emotionally and financially. Any fall out from his behaviour should not impact you

He will see this as the worst possible betrayal if I refused to attend. Plus, as his fiancee is very family oriented (and I could see how shocked she was at his drunken behaviour and treatment of me recently,) I worry that my refusal to attend may shock her into re-evaluating whether she wants to marry him. For both of these he may come after me. (But I don't want to live in fear for the sake of upsetting him, I want to take a stand and protect myself)

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DanceMumTaxi · 02/01/2025 11:17

Yes, as others have said. You need to be strategic about this to help protect yourself and your younger brother. I’d go, be polite and stay for the full day/evening so there can be no comeback on you. Wait until everything is finalised with the house, then withdraw contact slowly over time, no drama needed.

Turophilic · 02/01/2025 11:18

Protect yourself and your family. In this case, that would mean going to the wedding so that the house sale progresses smoothly.

Attending a sibling’s wedding doesn’t imply you endorse it or that you have a healthy relationship with him. It’s basically the minimum you can do without blowing up
your relationship with your potentially dangerous brother.

Theuniversalshere1 · 02/01/2025 11:18

TooManyCupsAndMugs · 02/01/2025 11:07

If the house sale isn't sorted by the wedding, go, be polite and cut contact once house is sorted. If it is all done, RSVP saying you not going. And block on all channels. You don't need permission to cut contact.

This... keep all sweet with regards to inheritance. Just go, even if its just to show face...

Can always go low contact later.

Myeyesareopen · 02/01/2025 11:23

Thank you all for your replies, it helps me think clearly without emotion and fear clouding my judgement. I agreed to give a reading at the wedding which makes me feel uncomfortable as it seems like a lie to go up and talk about love, but you are right, I will play the part and fade away.

I will try not to think about their relationship/safety of fiancee/future children as I have no control over this and it is not my responsibility. I will focus on loving and protecting my own family.

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toomuchfaff · 02/01/2025 11:47

Theuniversalshere1 · 02/01/2025 11:18

This... keep all sweet with regards to inheritance. Just go, even if its just to show face...

Can always go low contact later.

Edited

Am absolutely amazed at all the people telling you to go, to not rock the boat, to save face.

You don't need permission to snip toxic from yoyr life, You don't need permission to cut aggressive from your life. You can walk away AT ANY TIME. People don't seem to realise, their actions drive reaction. If you're a shitty human being, I don't want to be around you.

This man is a shitty human being. It isn't your place to educate his fiancee, but you don't have to interact with him if you don't like him.

Chattycatt · 02/01/2025 16:35

Gosh sounds like you described my brother here except you have had an apology at times! Isn’t it dreadful to have a sibling like this? So draining and toxic.

sounds like you’ve been so tolerant and patient - well done

I would go to the wedding and then low contact, be strategic

unfortunately even if you say something this woman is going to marry him and sadly will have to see for herself

One time I interfered when I found out my brothers gf was cheating on him and I told him and I became the bad person! I haven’t interfered since and heard his latest gf ended up on suicide watch and ended the relationship

I have no contact with him after reaching out a few times

ACynicalDad · 02/01/2025 17:17

Go for a drink with the future sister in law.

JHound · 02/01/2025 17:22

I likely would have very little contact with this brother.

HackGrey · 02/01/2025 17:35

I wouldn't go.

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