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Marcus Fakana sentenced to a year in prison

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Zippedydodah · 30/12/2024 12:11

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I cannot believe that this lad is going to spend a year in prison- yes, I know that’s the law there, he should have known better etc, etc
I hope that the girl’s mother is ashamed of her actions.
I don’t want to think what the impact will be on Marcus 😥

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itsgettingweird · 31/12/2024 11:40

PandoraSox · 31/12/2024 11:23

I also really hope the UK Government is working hard behind the scenes to get this young man home soon

Absolutely. Lammy has come in for some criticism on this thread, but we don't know what might be happening behind the scenes. It has to be handled really carefully. Remember Johnson and Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe?

I was thinking the same - we certainly don't need another buffoon in a China shop running away with their mouth and making this worse for the poor lad.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 31/12/2024 11:57

AccountCreateUsername · 31/12/2024 10:29

A punishment set in motion by the girl’s mother.

Wrong and unfair and, that’s why people are reacting so viscerally. It’s an injustice - the law shouldn’t be used to exact revenge.

She said her daughter had been raped, she knew that she hadn’t. That’s a dreadful thing to do and I hope that should be a consideration for his release at the earliest opportunity.

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You've summed this up for me.

Also where is her consequence for perverting the course of justice in lying about rape?

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 31/12/2024 12:08

itsgettingweird · 31/12/2024 11:40

I was thinking the same - we certainly don't need another buffoon in a China shop running away with their mouth and making this worse for the poor lad.

Bit late for that.

JustCrow · 31/12/2024 12:09

TwistedWonder · 30/12/2024 13:23

Her name and the daughters name plus photos are out there on SM

They're British Indian not white but I do believe there’s a racist and classist angle to the mother’s actions.

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I can’t find any info on their identities?

Ohnonotmeagain · 31/12/2024 12:11

PandoraSox · 31/12/2024 11:23

I also really hope the UK Government is working hard behind the scenes to get this young man home soon

Absolutely. Lammy has come in for some criticism on this thread, but we don't know what might be happening behind the scenes. It has to be handled really carefully. Remember Johnson and Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe?

Tbf Nazanin was an Iranian citizen travelling on an Iranian passport. Iran doesn’t recognise dual nationality so the British authorities had no jurisdiction or any power to intervene in her case. Anything we did was going to be a shit show as we can’t interfere with a countries treatment of it’s own citizens.

markus is British so the British government can use diplomatic channels to intervene in the treatment of one of their citizens.

ChristmasCardi · 31/12/2024 12:14

JustCrow · 31/12/2024 12:09

I can’t find any info on their identities?

Type Marcus Fakana into Twitter/X search bar and under ‘top’ they are the first things that come up.

angela1952 · 31/12/2024 12:57

forgotmyusername1 · 31/12/2024 10:21

I think the big difference here is hurting other people and the element of threat.

It was a consensual relationship with a 2 month age gap. No one got hurt, he isn't a paedophile going after young children. Prison isn't protecting anyone as he isn't a threat to anyone- it is a punishment for making an error which any teen could make.

Clearly someone going around killing people is a threat to others and needs to be imprisoned for the safety of other people.

The whole case is based on the age of consent. In this country it is 16, in the UAE it is 18, in some states in the USA it is 21. Having sex with somebody under the age of consent is, in many countries, seen as rape.
Are you saying that if a British man goes to the USA and sleeps with what some Americans consider to be an under-age girl (ie under 21) he should be let off because the age of consent here is 16? I think it's very unlikely that would be taken into account, he's far more likely to be found guilty of rape.

Efacsen · 31/12/2024 13:01

angela1952 · 31/12/2024 12:57

The whole case is based on the age of consent. In this country it is 16, in the UAE it is 18, in some states in the USA it is 21. Having sex with somebody under the age of consent is, in many countries, seen as rape.
Are you saying that if a British man goes to the USA and sleeps with what some Americans consider to be an under-age girl (ie under 21) he should be let off because the age of consent here is 16? I think it's very unlikely that would be taken into account, he's far more likely to be found guilty of rape.

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Never seen any press coverage of that situation in USA with same age young people - have you??

Much older men yes - some quite famous

Ohnonotmeagain · 31/12/2024 13:21

angela1952 · 31/12/2024 12:57

The whole case is based on the age of consent. In this country it is 16, in the UAE it is 18, in some states in the USA it is 21. Having sex with somebody under the age of consent is, in many countries, seen as rape.
Are you saying that if a British man goes to the USA and sleeps with what some Americans consider to be an under-age girl (ie under 21) he should be let off because the age of consent here is 16? I think it's very unlikely that would be taken into account, he's far more likely to be found guilty of rape.

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Yet funnily enough I don’t see any cases where this has happened?

many young people go to the US to study. I don’t see any of them imprisoned for having consensual sex with a 20 year old. I’m willing to bet it’s happening with far more frequency than it is in Dubai so it would be surprising there are no cases.

In many states in the us rape is negated if you marry your victim, and the age for marriage is much much lower than the age of consent.

JHound · 31/12/2024 13:54

ChristmasCardi · 31/12/2024 12:14

Type Marcus Fakana into Twitter/X search bar and under ‘top’ they are the first things that come up.

I love the internet!

forgotmyusername1 · 31/12/2024 15:14

angela1952 · 31/12/2024 12:57

The whole case is based on the age of consent. In this country it is 16, in the UAE it is 18, in some states in the USA it is 21. Having sex with somebody under the age of consent is, in many countries, seen as rape.
Are you saying that if a British man goes to the USA and sleeps with what some Americans consider to be an under-age girl (ie under 21) he should be let off because the age of consent here is 16? I think it's very unlikely that would be taken into account, he's far more likely to be found guilty of rape.

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America has romeo and Juliet laws I.e. if similar age then turn a blind eye

forgotmyusername1 · 31/12/2024 15:17

Romeo and Juliet law is designed to prevent situations like Markus

Marcus Fakana sentenced to a year in prison
TwistedWonder · 31/12/2024 15:20

forgotmyusername1 · 31/12/2024 15:14

America has romeo and Juliet laws I.e. if similar age then turn a blind eye

It’s a sensible take imo. The age of consent laws in most countries are to stop teenagers and kids being groomed and taken advantage of by older predators.

In most countries a blind eye would be turned to a couple of teenagers similar age having sex

forgotmyusername1 · 31/12/2024 15:20

I have looked it up though- no where in America has an age of consent of more than 18. The only caveat is a child teacher relationship which is then 21 which makes sense due to balance of power and grooming

NewGreenDuck · 31/12/2024 15:29

And 23 US states don't have a Romeo and Juliet law.

VacuumPacked · 31/12/2024 15:29

PandoraSox · 31/12/2024 11:23

I also really hope the UK Government is working hard behind the scenes to get this young man home soon

Absolutely. Lammy has come in for some criticism on this thread, but we don't know what might be happening behind the scenes. It has to be handled really carefully. Remember Johnson and Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe?

different situation completely, Johnson was careful with his comments,
sometimes we have to listen between the lines

Lindisfarm · 31/12/2024 16:49

TwistedWonder · 30/12/2024 12:27

The mothers a vile vindictive cow who snooped through her daughters private messages, invented a violent forced rape report against him once they were safely back in the UK and won’t have a seconds remorse for what she’d done just he side her little princess dared to have sex.

Let’s be honest here, his biggest crime in the mothers eyes is that he’s guilty of being black.

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This exactly. What a horrible, spiteful and vindictive woman she is. Very probably racist too. Vile person.
I hope she reads this.

HarrietPierce · 31/12/2024 16:49

" Johnson was careful with his comments,
sometimes we have to listen between the lines"

Careful Johnson was reckless with his comments.

Lindisfarm · 31/12/2024 16:50

nogginatemycat · 30/12/2024 13:26

Man breaks law in another country gets locked up. Thats justice next 🙄

Zero fucks given.

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@nogginatemycat
Are you the girl's mother?

nogginatemycat · 31/12/2024 16:54

Lindisfarm · 31/12/2024 16:50

@nogginatemycat
Are you the girl's mother?

Yes I am 😂

PandoraSox · 31/12/2024 16:56

VacuumPacked · 31/12/2024 15:29

different situation completely, Johnson was careful with his comments,
sometimes we have to listen between the lines

Did you mean to say careless?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-prison-nazanin-iran-hostage-b2078482.html

JHound · 31/12/2024 17:00

forgotmyusername1 · 31/12/2024 15:17

Romeo and Juliet law is designed to prevent situations like Markus

Romeo and Juliet laws are incredibly sensible.

I don’t think anybody genuinely believes that Age of Consent laws are meant to punish two teens of almost the same age from dating each other.

More to protect emotionally immature youths from much older predators.

I can understand Dubai won’t have that because age of consent is a new concept over there. But in the future it may have to consider it.

nogginatemycat · 31/12/2024 17:03

JHound · 31/12/2024 17:00

Romeo and Juliet laws are incredibly sensible.

I don’t think anybody genuinely believes that Age of Consent laws are meant to punish two teens of almost the same age from dating each other.

More to protect emotionally immature youths from much older predators.

I can understand Dubai won’t have that because age of consent is a new concept over there. But in the future it may have to consider it.

life of brian GIF

They were not dating, according to Dubai law he was abusing a minor in their country. He is a convicted sexual crimial get it right, guilty as charged, he even confesed 🙄.

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 31/12/2024 17:11

I feel we aren’t getting the full story here.

We are so used to getting our news from the UK, where police and prosecutions have press teams who’ve carefully considered what information they can and can’t give, and reporting restrictions are very clear and tight.

When crimes happen abroad you can’t guarantee the same standards of reporting. And it can skew the views of idle readers - look at what Amanda Knox went through. That was trial by media, and the Italian media reported whatever the hell lies they wanted to. there is SO much conflicting reporting about this case. What we do seem to know from police reports is that it was initially reported as “Forced sex” but then the prosecution saw CCTV of her going into his hotel room at 4am so ‘downgraded’ it to statutory rape. It’s (almost) 2025 and we should know by now that consent isn’t given at a doorway. So I feel rather than casting the mother of the girl as the villain we should take what we read with a pinch of salt as we just don’t know.

Clavinova · 31/12/2024 18:00

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe's sentence was extended not because of Boris Johnson. House of Lords Library;

In April 2021, she was convicted of “propaganda activities” against Iran because she participated in a protest outside the Iranian embassy in London in 2009 and because she gave an interview to BBC Persia. She was sentenced to another year in prison.

The £400m historic debt we owed Iran obviously didn't help either;

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/detention-of-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe/

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