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Why do Brits live in darkness except for December?

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Swedegirl48 · 29/12/2024 18:20

I am Swedish and at home if you walk down a street, most houses will have lamps in some of the windows, outside lights and usually people don’t draw curtains so you can see the lights from within the houses. I was asking British DH today why Brits tend to light up their houses so enthusiastically in December, but the rest of the year people draw their curtains and no one seems to put lamps in the windows (at least not where we live which is London). I am the only person in my street who has a lamp in every window of my house and leave some on overnight too. I think I am trying to overcompensate for my very dark street.

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Swedegirl48 · 30/12/2024 12:16

NobleDeeds · 30/12/2024 12:09

So why do it? You live in an enormous city with no need to ‘cheer up’ a street full of streetlights and other people, or to signal to lost, wandering strangers that they’re welcome to knock on the door?

No my street is very dark as are most streets around me. I don’t live on Oxford street.
I have always had lamps in my windows. I have lamps everywhere. Lightening is very important to me and I spend an insane amount of money on my lamps too.

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sadeightiesthrowback · 30/12/2024 12:16

I would imagine that OP is just doing what she is used to from her native Sweden, this seems to be important to her, such as teaching her DH to sleep with windows open, all year long. The majority of posters are doing what they feel most comfortable with and are used to doing too. Why would anyone wish to change what feels right to them for comfort, security, economy and privacy?

TooMuchRedMaybe · 30/12/2024 12:16

NobleDeeds · 30/12/2024 12:09

So why do it? You live in an enormous city with no need to ‘cheer up’ a street full of streetlights and other people, or to signal to lost, wandering strangers that they’re welcome to knock on the door?

For us that are used to the window lamps walking down a residential street in Britain is kind of like walking down a street with borded up shop windows vs walking down a street with lit up and decorated shop windows.

nextlocation · 30/12/2024 12:24

It’s one o’clock here and we have our small lights on. Same as all our neighbours. Otherwise we would hardly see what we were doing.

cosima4 · 30/12/2024 12:34

I think the dark nights go on for a bit longer in Sweden and obviously the country extends into the Arctic where there is hardly any natural light in winter, so this is where the lamps in houses tradition probably comes from?

CocoapuffPuff · 30/12/2024 12:41

TooMuchRedMaybe · 30/12/2024 12:16

For us that are used to the window lamps walking down a residential street in Britain is kind of like walking down a street with borded up shop windows vs walking down a street with lit up and decorated shop windows.

And those of us who are NOT used to it would feel uncomfortable with your way.
We get it. You believe your way is far superior. You prefer it. Great!

You do you and stop being so snooty about others who live differently.

TooMuchRedMaybe · 30/12/2024 12:53

CocoapuffPuff · 30/12/2024 12:41

And those of us who are NOT used to it would feel uncomfortable with your way.
We get it. You believe your way is far superior. You prefer it. Great!

You do you and stop being so snooty about others who live differently.

Jeez, I'm not snooty I am just trying to explain to people who don't see the point with decorating their windows why we do it. Calm down, it's just window lamps.

Swedegirl48 · 30/12/2024 13:31

CocoapuffPuff · 30/12/2024 12:41

And those of us who are NOT used to it would feel uncomfortable with your way.
We get it. You believe your way is far superior. You prefer it. Great!

You do you and stop being so snooty about others who live differently.

Gosh. Are you ok? It’s just observations and a few lamps in a window…

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crumblingschools · 30/12/2024 13:32

@sadeightiesthrowback but why does what OP want override what her DH was comfortable with?

Do you keep all the lights on when you go to bed?

PlopSofa · 30/12/2024 13:34

There’s definitely something in it OP and I’d certainly appreciate your lamps and windows.

I travelled widely in much sunnier climes than the U.K. many years ago now and it was quite the adjustment coming back. Not sure I’ve ever fully recovered!

I would personally love more lights in windows and would love more of what you describe.

DD and I recently enjoyed pausing outside different houses as we admired the Christmas lights outside each one.

You’re definitely not wrong about the mental positivity it provides. I wish my fellow country folk would perhaps reconsider.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/feeling-blue-holiday-lights-might-be-cure-2024a1000nh9?ecd=mkm_ret_241226_mscpmrk_broad_holidays_etid7116642&uac=326721PG&impID=7116642

Feeling Blue? Holiday Lights Might Be the Cure

Research has shown that just looking at twinkling lights outside of people’s homes evokes feelings of friendliness and warmth.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/feeling-blue-holiday-lights-might-be-cure-2024a1000nh9?ecd=mkm_ret_241226_mscpmrk_broad_holidays_etid7116642&impID=7116642&uac=326721PG

NobleDeeds · 30/12/2024 13:34

TooMuchRedMaybe · 30/12/2024 12:16

For us that are used to the window lamps walking down a residential street in Britain is kind of like walking down a street with borded up shop windows vs walking down a street with lit up and decorated shop windows.

Well, that’s exactly my point. Lit-up shop windows are there to attract potential shoppers, show them goods, make them think ‘I’ll go and try that on tomorrow’ — that’s literally the job of a shop window, to be outward-focused, to attract attention from passersby and advertise their goods.

But a private house exists for the benefit of the people who live in it. Inside the house at night, they will naturally arrange the lighting to suit them and whatever they’re doing indoors, rather than to look attractive from the street.

crumblingschools · 30/12/2024 13:34

Interesting how one of the reasons for lighting up homes is that people can feel safe walking about, is it not safe to walk around outside in the evening in Sweden?

nextlocation · 30/12/2024 13:36

crumblingschools · 30/12/2024 13:34

Interesting how one of the reasons for lighting up homes is that people can feel safe walking about, is it not safe to walk around outside in the evening in Sweden?

I’m in Sweden but used to live in London. I know where I feel safer walking around.

CocoapuffPuff · 30/12/2024 13:43

Swedegirl48 · 30/12/2024 13:31

Gosh. Are you ok? It’s just observations and a few lamps in a window…

You're right. It IS just a few lamps in windows. It's a pointless, meaningless, utterly worthless discussion.
I shouldn't have allowed myself to become irritated with such a laser focus on such drivel. Apologies.

Swedegirl48 · 30/12/2024 13:45

crumblingschools · 30/12/2024 13:32

@sadeightiesthrowback but why does what OP want override what her DH was comfortable with?

Do you keep all the lights on when you go to bed?

What do you mean I override my DH? This is a massive jump to conclusion.

Yes some lamps are always on, but no bright lights.

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Shinyandnew1 · 30/12/2024 13:48

people don’t draw curtains so you can see the lights from within the houses.

I draw the curtains to keep the warmth in so we can spend less on heating bills! Maybe heating is cheaper in Sweden!?

Swedegirl48 · 30/12/2024 13:49

CocoapuffPuff · 30/12/2024 13:43

You're right. It IS just a few lamps in windows. It's a pointless, meaningless, utterly worthless discussion.
I shouldn't have allowed myself to become irritated with such a laser focus on such drivel. Apologies.

👍 See you again some time on the super serious topics!

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Wishitwasstraightforward · 30/12/2024 13:50

I'm surprised by the tone of this thread TBH. I'm on board with everyone having an opinion but surprised so few people see teh OP's suggestion as negative given the amount of posters I've seen on previous threads mentioning how much they like using candles and warm lighting once Autumn descends, along with my observation of how many people's Christmas decorations involve lights.

CatrionaBalfour · 30/12/2024 13:53

Wishitwasstraightforward · 30/12/2024 13:50

I'm surprised by the tone of this thread TBH. I'm on board with everyone having an opinion but surprised so few people see teh OP's suggestion as negative given the amount of posters I've seen on previous threads mentioning how much they like using candles and warm lighting once Autumn descends, along with my observation of how many people's Christmas decorations involve lights.

I think sometimes a generalisation like "why do Brits..." can be a little annoying. People are different, and it's not wrong to close your curtains at night time, just not what the OP is used to.

RampantIvy · 30/12/2024 13:53

Wishitwasstraightforward · 30/12/2024 13:50

I'm surprised by the tone of this thread TBH. I'm on board with everyone having an opinion but surprised so few people see teh OP's suggestion as negative given the amount of posters I've seen on previous threads mentioning how much they like using candles and warm lighting once Autumn descends, along with my observation of how many people's Christmas decorations involve lights.

I think posters are surprised at the fact that the OP can't work out why most people don't follow her Swedish customs - privacy, warmth, indoor light, feeling less vulnerable.

Perhaps the crime rate is much lower in Sweden?

TheMaddHugger · 30/12/2024 13:55

Swedegirl48 · 30/12/2024 13:31

Gosh. Are you ok? It’s just observations and a few lamps in a window…

I think she needs a hug

TheMaddHugger · 30/12/2024 13:58

awww soo sweet

[ gives you lots of hugs]🍷🌻

Iloveyoubut · 30/12/2024 14:01

romany4 · 29/12/2024 18:24

I like the dark. I always sit in the dark to watch tv.
Hate the bright evenings in Spring and Summer

Oh god so do I! I hate it!

Iloveyoubut · 30/12/2024 14:08

Swedegirl48 · 30/12/2024 13:31

Gosh. Are you ok? It’s just observations and a few lamps in a window…

Yeah calm down Enid Blyton she’s fine. I mean, good goshy hockey sticks … asking if someone is ok to be passive aggressive because you don’t actually care if they’re ok, and the real reason you’re asking is to imply is there’s something mentally wrong with them whilst still appearing ‘concerned’ is a bit… ‘very bloody obvious what you’re doing’. Just it case you didn’t know. But I’m sure you did.

NobleDeeds · 30/12/2024 14:09

Wishitwasstraightforward · 30/12/2024 13:50

I'm surprised by the tone of this thread TBH. I'm on board with everyone having an opinion but surprised so few people see teh OP's suggestion as negative given the amount of posters I've seen on previous threads mentioning how much they like using candles and warm lighting once Autumn descends, along with my observation of how many people's Christmas decorations involve lights.

But I think the people who annually get enthusiastic about candles and warm lighting are doing it indoors for the benefit of themselves and others indoors, not to ‘brighten up the street’. That’s where UK Christmas lights diverge from indoor lighting.