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To ask guests to pay for air con?

168 replies

rubbergloots · 29/12/2024 10:59

We live on a tropical island. Electricity is very very expensive here. The house has floor and ceiling fans which we run. In addition to this, there is also air con in the bedrooms. We never use it as it’s fine with the fans.

It would cost about £15 a night to keep the aircon on in one bedroom. We have guests coming to stay from the UK. AIBU to ask them to pay for air con if they want to use it?

We aren’t charging them to stay in our villa of course. They are not close friends. They have probably saved about £1,000 over the week they are staying here with free accommodation. We are also happy to pay for the maid to clean their room etc.

OP posts:
IdylicDay · 29/12/2024 14:45

DreamW3aver · 29/12/2024 14:31

You must live a very sheltered life if a discussion on someone getting a free holiday but being asked to pay for an expensive resource is nasty, tight and miserable

How low is your bar for horrible 😂

You don't think telling OP to take fuses out of aircon so it doesn't work isn't petty, spiteful and miserly?? Why go to that extent? That's ridiculous. What next, removing the plumbing in case they use too much water.

BusterGonad · 29/12/2024 14:46

Mirabai · 29/12/2024 14:34

Well then you need to get out more - because many houses worldwide, particularly period houses, don’t have aircon. Some places don’t even bother with fans as nationals are used to the heat.

There’s no obligation to tell them there’s no aircon before they arrive, there’s no obligation to have it.

Edited

Get out more! You're a clown. I've lived in many countries that are classed as tropical or subtropical desert, hence why I think it's a bit of a joke to invite family that live in the UK to come stay then revoke the aircon, which is generally needed for people not used to tropical living, non nationals of a tropical climate.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 29/12/2024 14:52

coldcallerbaiter · 29/12/2024 11:55

This must be an island seriously off the beaten track. I have never heard of anywhere in the world with more than 50p per hour electricity.

I have a holiday home and the hints you get to stay are ridiculous. I even had a child sent to ask my child if her family could stay. In fact I could fill a thread with them. Only let very close friends and family stay if you really like them, for free and not often. The rest make an excuse/say no. The only exception is if they have a holiday home somewhere you like, you can swap,

Edited

Surely an hourly rate is meaningless without knowing the energy consumption…? I’ve got AC units that are 3Kw, and so at 27 cents an hour peak cost (France) that’s nearly 70p an hour. I can easily imagine that being more on an island.

But I agree when you have more than one home you need to be resolute in standing your ground about visitors. Not so much close and family - I don’t mind them using places if I’m not. It’s the people who are more acquaintances than friends that can be the least backwards in coming forwards. And often, by the time you take into account flights, car hire (they’re definitely not borrowing my car!) it’s often not the cheap holiday they’re expecting!

Having said that, if I’ve invited someone to stay with me I want them to be comfortable, and if we are talking somewhere tropical I think most of us unaccustomed to living in that environment would expect air-con.

Fluufer · 29/12/2024 14:54

BusterGonad · 29/12/2024 14:46

Get out more! You're a clown. I've lived in many countries that are classed as tropical or subtropical desert, hence why I think it's a bit of a joke to invite family that live in the UK to come stay then revoke the aircon, which is generally needed for people not used to tropical living, non nationals of a tropical climate.

Aircon is far from standard in most of the tropics. The houses are generally built such that it is close to useless. Where you lived, or your personal homes, were the exception not the rule.
Now I'm wondering if I inadvertently horrified visitors with the provision of a meager fan. Dear me.

Delatron · 29/12/2024 14:58

BusterGonad · 29/12/2024 14:46

Get out more! You're a clown. I've lived in many countries that are classed as tropical or subtropical desert, hence why I think it's a bit of a joke to invite family that live in the UK to come stay then revoke the aircon, which is generally needed for people not used to tropical living, non nationals of a tropical climate.

They are not her family. Regardless of any other opinion. She has not invited her family to stay. She said they are ‘friends that they are not close to’. And we don’t know if they invited themselves or not which does change things. We need clarification from the OP.

DreamW3aver · 29/12/2024 15:00

IdylicDay · 29/12/2024 14:45

You don't think telling OP to take fuses out of aircon so it doesn't work isn't petty, spiteful and miserly?? Why go to that extent? That's ridiculous. What next, removing the plumbing in case they use too much water.

Edited

No, I don't think it's any of those things but then I'm not generally prone to extreme reactions

It's one of a number of options to address the possible issue. We have little information to go on in this situation, the guests may be perfectly happy to pay the additional cost, we don't know, the OP is musing about options.

If water was a costly resource then yes, it would be equally valid to think about how to not incur additional costs when providing someone you aren't close friends with with a free holiday. I don't see anything controversial in that. Most of us don't have unlimited funds to do all the things we might like to

iamnotalemon · 29/12/2024 15:02

I live in the Caribbean and surprisingly very few solar panels and the electric is extortionate.

It depends on your financial situation I guess but I think the guests should have been given the heads up long before they booked the holiday.

On the other hand, if this is a second home they are staying in, I think you should suck up the cost and perhaps just ask them to be mindful with the usage - ie not leave it on all day.

LivingDeadGirlUK · 29/12/2024 15:02

coldcallerbaiter · 29/12/2024 11:55

This must be an island seriously off the beaten track. I have never heard of anywhere in the world with more than 50p per hour electricity.

I have a holiday home and the hints you get to stay are ridiculous. I even had a child sent to ask my child if her family could stay. In fact I could fill a thread with them. Only let very close friends and family stay if you really like them, for free and not often. The rest make an excuse/say no. The only exception is if they have a holiday home somewhere you like, you can swap,

Edited

What is '50p per hour electricity'? Do you mean 50p per kw hour? If so a small 3kw AC unit would use £15 over 10 hours use. If they leave it running all day it would cost OP £36 just for the AC.

Mirabai · 29/12/2024 15:03

BusterGonad · 29/12/2024 14:46

Get out more! You're a clown. I've lived in many countries that are classed as tropical or subtropical desert, hence why I think it's a bit of a joke to invite family that live in the UK to come stay then revoke the aircon, which is generally needed for people not used to tropical living, non nationals of a tropical climate.

I beg your pardon? You’re very gauche for someone who is claims to be cosmopolitan. Part of my family is from a tropical country, part is from a Mediterranean country, I’ve lived and stayed in places all over the world. Some places have aircon and some don’t. If it was a dealbreaker for me, I would enquire before booking.

Mirabai · 29/12/2024 15:04

Fluufer · 29/12/2024 14:54

Aircon is far from standard in most of the tropics. The houses are generally built such that it is close to useless. Where you lived, or your personal homes, were the exception not the rule.
Now I'm wondering if I inadvertently horrified visitors with the provision of a meager fan. Dear me.

Exactly.

CurbsideProphet · 29/12/2024 15:07

They aren't close enough friends to just tell them how much it costs to run the air con, so why have them stay in your home?

buttonousmaximous · 29/12/2024 15:11

When use ils cottage we pay cost of electric/gas and cleaning and we are grateful for the bargain!

Edenmum2 · 29/12/2024 15:11

rubbergloots · 29/12/2024 11:08

No they’re coming next week. Alternatively, I could just say the aircon is broken!

Do not do this

Tiredmum2kids1dog · 29/12/2024 19:39

I think it's fine to charge...just let them know now so they can budget for it

mezlou84 · 03/01/2025 18:39

As long as they know in advance I can't see why not. That way they can budget it into their holiday funds.

healthybychristmas · 03/01/2025 18:45

I think you should charge them for the air con and the cleaner but mainly I think you should've done that before, when you were discussing arrangements.

healthybychristmas · 03/01/2025 18:46

Btw is that you, A?

SimplyReadHead · 03/01/2025 19:05

Absolutely not problem saying “you’re very welcome to use the fans for free. Electricity is extremely expensive here, if you’d like to put the air con on, please could you make a contribution of £15 per night to help us pay for it”.

I can’t see anything wrong with that at all.

Someone has to pay it and if they’ve saved £1000 on accommodation and they have a choice if they want it on or not, then it should be them.

why on earth would you pay it?

ThatRareUmberJoker · 03/01/2025 19:20

£15 per night is expensive for one room. Op should definitely charge for air con. It's not an unreasonable ask for what they are getting.

ThatRareUmberJoker · 03/01/2025 19:21

healthybychristmas · 03/01/2025 18:45

I think you should charge them for the air con and the cleaner but mainly I think you should've done that before, when you were discussing arrangements.

Free accommodation in the tropics they are getting a very good deal .

PyongyangKipperbang · 03/01/2025 19:31

IdylicDay · 29/12/2024 11:47

You can afford something as expensive and opulent and a complete waste of money like a maid, but you you can't afford something as basic as airconditioning? I think you have your priorities all back to front and messed up. Sack off the maid for the time they're there if you are too tight to provide something as basic as making them comfortable in a hot climate!

This is not some Downton scenario!! In many parts of the world maid is the word for cleaner. I have american friends call their twice weekly cleaning lady "the maid".

LarkinAboot · 03/01/2025 19:53

Of course it's entirely reasonable and polite to just tell the truth. Give them the option. It doesn't have to be weird or complex

crockofshite · 03/01/2025 20:02

rubbergloots · 29/12/2024 11:08

No they’re coming next week. Alternatively, I could just say the aircon is broken!

That's what I'd do. Turn it off.

Botanybaby · 03/01/2025 20:10

I would say it probably depends on who asked who to stay, like did you invite them or did they ask and when they asked did you mention the cost at that point

Kazzybingbong · 03/01/2025 20:23

You should have said you’ll let them stay for £15 a night. Missed a trick there.