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To not want to stay at my BIL with DH and our 3 kids?

24 replies

Thesimpleway · 27/12/2024 20:38

We’ve been invited to stay with my BIL his wife and their 2 kids for a weekend next year to celebrate one of his kids’ birthday. They live in a small village near a city and we live in a big city and will travel by rail. We don’t drive and due to timings (re either being pregnant/having a newborn vice versa) whenever they’ve invited us round, since they moved there several years ago, it hasn’t been possible for us to even pay them a visit.

So this will be a first visit + sleeping over all at once. If we had a close bond, I probably wouldn’t mind but we don’t. DH and his brother aren’t close, and weren’t even before we met. Also, we only see each other at birthday gatherings, holidays and the odd do at my in-laws. We don’t otherwise “hangout”. When BIL comes to our city, he hangs out with his mates and has been known to be 5 mins away from us and not even let DH know.

My BIL has made no effort to get to know me since I met my DH and his wife is similar - when some friction occurred between us and DH’s parents years ago, BIL sided with his parents (obvs) and remarked to his brother that “the family” didn’t feel they knew me well enough before we got married - that comment and others he has made over the years have cut and have stayed with me. I think he’s projecting because DH is younger and got married + had kids first. BIL met his wife after we had gotten married and he made a point of arranging OTT holidays with his and her parents but aside from that, he made no effort for her to get to know his siblings, so the same can be said.

My BIL and his wife have only become friendlier to us since they’ve had kids of their own before which, they (especially his wife) would simply stare at me, DH and our kids at get togethers. Apart from sending our kids birthday and Xmas presents, they don’t show any interest in them when we all get together - DH and I have concluded that we might just be more at ease with kids and that is why we can be friendly with their kids, offering to hold them and play with them whereas BIL and his wife don’t treat ours the same at all. I have recently noticed how my BIL will avoid directly talking to my DD, who his daughter is very fond of, and will give all of his attention to his own child throughout. Unfortunately for him, his eldest is obsessed with her older cousin and follows my DD around at family do’s.

Technically this is fine, in that there’s nothing wrong with putting your own child first but I see the disappointment in my DD especially as she is a nervous kid, wants to get to know her uncle more and has probably subconsciously sensed or absorbed the past (and probably still present) hostility for being the first grandchild. ((Btw my MIL accidentally insinuated the other day that her elder son ie., my BIL did struggle with his brother getting married first, so this is not my paranoia)).

Problem is DH understands me but feels unable to say no on this occasion as there’s “no real reason” why we can’t make it and he doesn’t want to spend on a hotel as his brother has more than enough space for the 5 of us. My reason is we aren’t close and I don’t want to be put up for a weekend at theirs when we can afford to stay at a hotel and participate in the family activities taking place that weekend.

AIBU to not want to stay at my BIL’s given this history? If so, how do we politely decline?

OP posts:
Gymmum82 · 27/12/2024 20:40

How do you expect to get to know them and build a relationship if you make no effort?

Bex5490 · 27/12/2024 20:41

I didn’t get through your whole post because I don’t need to…to tell you not to go!

You’re not obliged to spend the night anywhere you don’t want to.

I’d avoid making it into a drama by just giving a bland excuse and not worry about t too much.

BettyBardMacDonald · 27/12/2024 20:42

No way would I stay at theirs.

Hotel or don't go.

Fedupfrankly · 27/12/2024 20:42

Is it possible to say with the kids sleeping etc at the moment its tricky to stay over? I'd say go because the kids like eachother... could you afford an air bnb?

Violinist64 · 27/12/2024 20:43

Could you afford to stay in an Air B and B or Premier Inn nearby? This would mean that you would not need to be in someone else's house for the whole time, which can become claustrophobic even when you are close to each other. It helps to keep your children in a routine and also means that you have a bolthole if things become a bit overwhelming.

ExtraOnions · 27/12/2024 20:47

If you don’t put the effort in, you’ll never get to know them.

They have invited you several times before, and you’ve never taken them up on the offer. You have also never been to visit them.

They have sent your children presents, but, looks like they have not had the chance to build up anymore of a relationship.

Not sure what has been so awful about your BIL behaviour .. they said, before you were married, that they were worried they didn’t know you well enough - was this correct?

I don’t see any “hostility” to being the first grandchild, and some “insinuation” - made by someone, who’s not even him .. isn’t really any sort of a big deal.

You’ll never get to know them better, unless you make the effort

MrsPSwayze · 28/12/2024 06:10

Would it be possible to do a day trip?
if not, I’d say this is a situation where you unfortunately just need to suck it up. It’s been several years and you’ve never visited them. Unless you want to completely sever family ties then just try to get through it and know that you won’t have to visit again anytime soon. I’d also make it easier on myself by booking a later train on the Saturday and an earlier train back on the Sunday.

Merrygoround8 · 28/12/2024 06:15

Suck it up. You might be pleasantly surprised. Them inviting you is an olive branch. If it doesn’t go well; you don’t need to go again.

Onlyonekenobe · 28/12/2024 06:20

There’s nothing in what you’ve said that’s actually wrong enough to warrant not staying over. I mean, don’t if you don’t want to, free world and all that. But it seems like there’s a lot of assuming and extrapolating and going off vibes and feelings, and none of it adding up to much. It’s one weekend. Make plans to be out of the house for some of it. Do the child’s birthday party the other day. Leave right after. By the time you add in travel etc it won’t add up to much time there. You never know, they could actually be really nice and you could be totally wrong about all the things you’ve ‘sensed’ and are guessing at.

user1492757084 · 28/12/2024 06:22

Put the effort in this time.
Hopefully the BIL has grown up a bit.
It might be great.
What is the worst thing that could happen?

Also take the time to spend with your own little family - on the train, in the garden, walking around BIL's neighbourhood etc - you don't have to spend every minute with BIL.

If it doesn't work out then you have a good excuse to stay at a hotel next time. Your kids will love getting to know their cousins.

SummerInSun · 28/12/2024 06:22

I also think it's a bit unfair that you are complaining that you don't know them well, yet are avoiding visiting them. How else will you get to know them? Go this once, see how it goes. If it doesn't work out, don't go again. But go with an open mind and with the intention of all getting to know each other better and you might be pleasantly surprised. I think it's pretty impressive that they send your kinds birthday and Christmas presents- that strongly suggests they do care.

Re your BIL and your DD, sadly I think it is entirely normal for men to feel hesitant with girls other than their own daughters. They often aren't sure how to talk to them, don't feel they have anything in common, and sadly a lot are worried that it might look a bit "off" to be too interested.

I get on very well with my uncles now as an adult, but can't remember talking to them at all as a kid.

CheeseTime · 28/12/2024 06:23

I would go. With a positive attitude. For the sake of the five children spending time with cousins. How old are you all? People are often quite immature until late 20s so this might be the right time to build that relationship you think is missing.

reesiespieces · 28/12/2024 06:27

You don't know then well because you don't want to.

Don't go if you don't want to. 🤷🏻‍♀️ But don't act like they haven't tried to get to know you.

Mummyoflittledragon · 28/12/2024 06:51

Their behaviour can all be explained as a bit of social awkwardness and a belief that parents should be respected more that they think you respected yours. If you don’t give the time to get to know them, nothing will change. I get that it was annoying feeling judged. But honestly, that’s not relationship ending stuff. It’s personal choice and a bit of imaturity. Maybe your bil and sil have grown up a bit now. So I think yabu.

BarbaraHoward · 28/12/2024 07:02

Go. It's only a weekend and if it's awful you don't have to go again. I wouldn't relish staying in someone's house either but sometimes you just have to suck it up.

They've been in their house several years and you haven't made the effort to see it, that's pretty poor form. They've invited you more than once and it sounds like they were sending your DC presents for years before they had their own - time for you to make the effort.

Tel12 · 28/12/2024 07:10

They're making an effort, perhaps you should too?

saraclara · 28/12/2024 07:13

You're complaining that they haven't made the effort to get to know you, and when they do make the effort, you don't want to go.

You want things both ways, which is ridiculous.

My BIL has made no effort to get to know me since I met my DH and his wife is similar -

Well now he is. So...

arcticpandas · 28/12/2024 07:14

This is them reaching out. Up to you if you want to make the effort. It's just a week-end so even if you don't enjoy yourself It's manageable surely?

Lurkingandlearning · 28/12/2024 07:18

How would you get from the hotel to your BILs house?

It seems a very expensive way to let someone know you want to spend as little time with them as possible.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 28/12/2024 07:21

My advice is to go. You complain you do not know them, well this is your chance to form a stronger bond.

TheSeagullsSquawk · 28/12/2024 07:24

I don't really understand from your post why you don't want to stay and how you expect to get to know them if you don't make the effort. From your own post it seems they try harder than you do.

However - sounds like you've got tiny ones and when mine were very little, babies/ toddlers I did insist we stay in a hotel rather than in laws as I just needed my own space. It is hard looking after very little kids in strange environments and other people never do help in the ways you might expect - and you have to be polite and take an interest in these other people you don't know very well/ didn't choose to be related to. It's exhausting. Having our own space to escape too - hotel pool and buffet breakfast was ace.

But own it - issue is you not them. Just say you really like staying in hotels. Suspect they'll think you are weird but looks like they do anyway - put in some effort when you see them.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 28/12/2024 07:27

You say you don’t know them well but also “whenever they’ve invited us round, since they moved there several years ago, it hasn’t been possible for us to even pay them a visit.”

They clearly want to try and get to know you now, so I don’t know why you wouldn’t give it a try, if only for the kids sake. DH clearly wants to.

Don’t hold on to the past - nothing concrete has happened and feels like you are holding on to perceived issues that may not even be there.

Do you struggle with anxiety or would you be described as being quite set in your ways / control- seeker usually? It sounds like you might.

Heronwatcher · 28/12/2024 07:34

Assume you mean weekend proper, so arrive Friday evening leave Sunday? In which case I’d do it and give them a chance- it’s 2 nights and basically only one full day. How bad can it be? If you approach it with an open mind it will either be better than you think, or it won’t be great but at least you’ll have tried and know not to go again (or DH goes on his own). All of this hand wringing and history sounds a bit precious TBH.

Mookie81 · 28/12/2024 07:41

You're clearly the problem, and that's reading only your side of the story.
They invited you down multiple times, clearly to try and reconnect, but its been 'impossible'? Yeah right.
I'd be interested to know what the friction with the in laws was.

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