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To Do Xmas Differently Next Year?

19 replies

SAHMommy · 27/12/2024 17:44

I spent Christmas this year with my family. This is my first Christmas as a parent. I have an Aunt who I don’t see very often and therefore she does not see my LO often either, but this is her own doing as she doesnt bother coming round to see us or even text/message us. She has seen baby maybe 3 times since they were born. We believe this is because she disagrees with a lot of the things we have decided to do such as no kissing and I am BF, so she couldn’t come round and bottle feed which she was really sad about at first (but thats a different story).
For context in this story I have a brother who I do not speak to for many different difficult reasons, mostly surrounding him being violent, and the way he acts under the influence. My aunt has never supported me going low contact with my sibling as she thinks ’family is the most important thing’ even if they are violent apparently, but the rest of my family are understanding about the situation. I always act civil when he is at family events, i just try my best to keep away when alcohol is involved. Obviously, during Christmas this isn't as possible as it is normally is.
On Christmas my aunt kept grabbing my LO out of my arms and passing them to my cousin without really asking. This is annoying especially because my LO is starting to walk and likes to crawl around themselves now, so they dont need to be held constantly. I tried to tell her several times to leave my child be as they were fine and didnt need held but this was ignored. I forgave this at the time though as I understand babies are very cute and the first baby in a long time in the family so i try to be understanding.
My brother was drinking and so i sat away from him and kept my child away. However towards the end of the evening my Aunt kept trying to grab my baby from me or pick them up constantly and taking them over to see their ‘Uncle’ and letting him hold my child while drinking! I said several times to stop doing this and trying to take my child back but i was just completely ignored by everyone as its ‘babies uncle let him hold them’, and it got to the point that i took my LO and held them every time my aunt came near. DH is also ignored, no matter what we say. Aunt just doesn’t listen to anyone.
I still just cant get over how disrespected i felt in the moment and next year am considering just not seeing anyone at Christmas except my parents because i am so tired of being ignored! I know this will start so much trouble with my aunt because she will want everyone at hers again for Christmas, as it is ‘traditional’. I know my DH will respect whatever decision i make, even if that means conflict. I just feel bad this might cause issues for my poor parents.
I dont know if I'm overreacting because I do have bad anxiety (mostly due to a violent event involving brother) and have been told before im being one of ‘those’ FTM because i am young (this was because of the no kissing rule), or if this is just odd disrespectful behaviour?

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Pieandchips999 · 27/12/2024 21:49

I don't think you're being unreasonable at all. You sound like you have a good grip on who is a risk and what you want your boundaries to be and they are being totally ignored. I would just explain you are having your own family Christmas next year. You don't need to make a big deal of it and can ignore if they try and make dramas from it

Juliagreeneyes · 27/12/2024 21:52

Your aunt sounds horrible - you’re perfectly right to have healthy boundaries with your DD, and next year put your foot down and have your own Christmas. Invite your parents and don’t invite either brother or aunt. If they disrespect your wishes, they don’t get invited to your house!

Bustopnumberone · 27/12/2024 21:56

Christmas is meant to be enjoyable. I would most definitely not be spending it with her (or him!) again!

AdoraBell · 27/12/2024 21:56

YANBU. Start your own tradition, Christmas with your family- DH and your children. Casually tell your mum you are having a quiet Christmas at home next year.

UtterlyOtterly · 27/12/2024 22:04

I think the most important thing about Christmas is never to get into any sort of "tradition" with family. Never let anyone always host or always come to you. Mix it up as much as possible so that nobody has expectations of it always being the same.

Your aunt sounds very unpleasant and rude. Not somebody to spend time with.

pizzaHeart · 27/12/2024 22:04

Well you can always invite parents to yours if you want for any day.
Your aunt sounds horrible. I’m aunt myself and wouldn’t even dream about not following parents instructions. It’s very disrespectful and rude. And what is this about bottle feeding? Your baby is not a doll.

pizzaHeart · 27/12/2024 22:05

UtterlyOtterly · 27/12/2024 22:04

I think the most important thing about Christmas is never to get into any sort of "tradition" with family. Never let anyone always host or always come to you. Mix it up as much as possible so that nobody has expectations of it always being the same.

Your aunt sounds very unpleasant and rude. Not somebody to spend time with.

Really good point^

SAHMommy · 27/12/2024 23:17

pizzaHeart · 27/12/2024 22:04

Well you can always invite parents to yours if you want for any day.
Your aunt sounds horrible. I’m aunt myself and wouldn’t even dream about not following parents instructions. It’s very disrespectful and rude. And what is this about bottle feeding? Your baby is not a doll.

I think thats what bothers me the most, is she constantly treats my baby like a doll to be passed around and played with, even when my LO is wriggling and trying to get away to play elsewhere.

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SAHMommy · 27/12/2024 23:22

Thank you everyone. I think I’m just glad I’m not overreacting. Its my poor DM I feel most sorry for, as when I tell them we will be doing a nice at home Christmas next year my aunt will no doubt start to complain about it and my DM will take the brunt of the abuse, as Aunt loves to have things her way (which is why they always spend Christmas day at her house).
My aunt has always been horrible, but it never bothered me much until having a baby.

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pizzaHeart · 27/12/2024 23:37

SAHMommy · 27/12/2024 23:22

Thank you everyone. I think I’m just glad I’m not overreacting. Its my poor DM I feel most sorry for, as when I tell them we will be doing a nice at home Christmas next year my aunt will no doubt start to complain about it and my DM will take the brunt of the abuse, as Aunt loves to have things her way (which is why they always spend Christmas day at her house).
My aunt has always been horrible, but it never bothered me much until having a baby.

I just posted this advice on another thread and repeat it here: you don’t need to announce anything to anyone about next Christmas. Just make a note for yourself and wait. Then tell your mum closer to December.
And you should start loving things to be your way.

Squiillionaire · 27/12/2024 23:38

Christmas shouldn't be a time when you have to spend time with people you feel uncomfortable with for whatever reason. It should be a nice relaxing holiday (albeit with bit of stress whether the oven is big enough for the turkey). Really you shouldn't ever have to spend time with people you o feel uncomfortable with. You don't have to invite the aunt or your brother. Don't subject your DD to this for years You need to do what is best for you.

Don't buy into the wonderful family Christmas ideal, don't be blackmailed by the relatives.

Apart from one Christmas it has always been me, DH and DS. We invited my parents for one year because we thought we had to. It was a nightmare because odf my very unpleasant mother..I'm glad we did it for my lovely Dad but it was the worst Christmas.. Thankfully DS can't remember it.

He just remembers lovely Christmas 's with the three of us. Shite family members have no place in creating Christmas memories..Not good memories.

Shinyandnew1 · 27/12/2024 23:43

My aunt has always been horrible

Then don’t spend Christmas with her.

SAHMommy · 28/12/2024 00:32

Thank you everyone. I think I’m just so use to family dictating my life, I never believed it could be as easy as not spending Christmas with Aunt. I never even believed that would be an option until this year. I think because i have a child now i feel more confidence, or at least a need to protect my child from people like that, that comes with being a parent.

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BitterTits · 28/12/2024 01:39

If you want to do Christmas differently do it.

I'm intrigued by the no kissing rule. Is that your aunt's rule or yours? If it's yours, do you mean you never kiss the baby or nobody but you is allowed to?

SAHMommy · 28/12/2024 02:14

BitterTits · 28/12/2024 01:39

If you want to do Christmas differently do it.

I'm intrigued by the no kissing rule. Is that your aunt's rule or yours? If it's yours, do you mean you never kiss the baby or nobody but you is allowed to?

It is my rule. I had stated, even before baby was born, that i didnt want anyone kissing my babies face and hands. This made a lot of family upset but I put my foot down. I knew a little boy who almost died from herpes after the great grandmother kissed their face without thinking, so I was also aware of that being an issue too. I kiss my child, but I am their mother so I feel that is different, and i know i dont get cold sores. Over Christmas I had restated that i did not want anyone to kiss my baby as there is a horrible flu going around as well. I also just dont understand the obsession with wanting to kiss someone elses baby, so would rather they didn’t anyway.

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Needanewname42 · 28/12/2024 02:19

You have a DH as well as a child. Does he not have a family who you'd like to visit???

Might be slightly more palatable to say you'll be spending next Christmas day with his family.

SAHMommy · 01/01/2025 16:06

Needanewname42 · 28/12/2024 02:19

You have a DH as well as a child. Does he not have a family who you'd like to visit???

Might be slightly more palatable to say you'll be spending next Christmas day with his family.

I wish we could but they live abroad and have other DGC who spend time there at Christmas. We would be expected to stay at a hotel, and DH would not enjoy himself. They have a rather strange family dynamic.

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OnceMoreWithAttitude · 01/01/2025 17:16

OP, you worry about your Mum taking the fall out if you decline Christmas with the aunt next year, but where is your Mum in having your back?

If my Dd was being railroaded and made so uncomfortable I would step in.

If my Dd had been subjected to violence from her brother I would be hugely protective of her vulnerability and not impose events where they are expected to mix unless my Dd gave the go ahead.

I would not sit quiet and allow my sister to lecture my Dd on issues between her and my other child.

Your mother has facilitated and enabled her sister (or SIL? ) or your Dad has facilitated the same, depending who the aunt is related to, to bully and rule the roost.

You are your own self, and a Mum now. You do not have to allow your Dd to be subjected to this overbearing interference.

I would talk all this through with your Mum. Let her know, calmly and kindly but truthfully, where your own boundaries lie. Start now so she has time to get used to it.

It is not your responsibility if your Aunt kicks off at your Mum. It is not your job to protect your Mum from her own sister (or SIL).

PitchOver · 01/01/2025 19:48

Honestly, sod your Aunt. She's not your immediate family and you have no obligation to have anything to do with her, Christmas or otherwise!

I would say to your parents that because this year was such hard work that you will not be doing it again - ever. Christmas will be at yours next yr and your Aunt won't be invited.

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