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What makes you working class?

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Bdueb · 25/12/2024 21:21

Was listening to an interview with oa well known actor talking about their childhood and growing up working class. For them a key part was lack of travel and having not left their local area much etc. That was 20 years ago. What about now - what do you think distinguishes working and middle class childhoods of today?

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ByWaryCrab · 09/02/2025 10:50

ByWaryCrab · 09/02/2025 03:18

Lack of opportunities and not mobile, lack of aspirations; inverted snobbery.
lack of understanding, better childhoods, more food, snobbery. I’ll let you work out which is which.
grew up in one, now probably in the other. Scourge of our society, class and it’s limitations. Work to illiminate it and the future is a better place.

Spoken about eloquently by the incredible giant Shirley Williams. Class that is…most destructive social construct ever, no one has the wit to solve it/eliminate it but when and if we do our country will rise far beyond its own expectations and be more productive as a result and as we do we will have to be much much fitter, from the cradle in fact intellectually and technically, we need to be fluid and and adaptable and lift up where need to being more forward thinking. Class is just in the way and keeps us stuck in old social ruts, it has both hidden and devastating impacts held up by inverted snobbery/snobbery.

Coloursofthewind2 · 09/02/2025 10:56

My mums parents are working class and dad's parents are middle class. I judge this on:
Mums parents had manual labour/minimum wage jobs and grandmother grew up in a council house with very little to go round.
Dad's parents went to university, had good jobs related to their degrees and comfortable house etc..
My mum was the first in her family to go to uni, where she met my dad.
So I consider myself middle class with working class roots on my mother's side. No idea if that's the right definition/criteria

Getitwright · 09/02/2025 11:08

Shirley Williams was so right. It’s a ridiculous self imposed concept nowadays. Majority desperate to appear “middle class” including in some strange way the Wales.

All a person needs to be is their own self. Aspire to do whatever takes your fancy, try new experiences, make the most of whatever education comes your way, don’t give yourself (or others) a label. Deference based on wealth is awful, as is ignoring those who might be less well off. Far better to look up to people who have made the World a better place, in all sorts of ways, many who are unsung heroes.

Whelm · 09/02/2025 17:15

BigSilly · 09/02/2025 10:12

What about Alan Sugar? He's a Lord, but regards himself as WC?

Alan Sugar is a working class billionaire peer.
What makes me think that extraordinary wealth and being a Lord haven't changed his class?
He failed to fully refresh tax advice before taking a leave of absence from the Lords, heading to Australia and paying himself a dividend that left him with an unexpected £186m tax bill.
Middle-class behaviour would have been more cautious and captured the change in tax rules, the few Upper-class people able to pay themselves so much would have been further insulated from financial management, so the error wouldn't have been made.

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