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To not go on Boxing Day

43 replies

Boxingdayw · 24/12/2024 12:30

1 hour drive each way- we have a one month old. 8 adults in total including me and DH. Nobody else has kids, we are the next youngest after baby DC. One relative is also bringing along two chihuahuas known to be reactive and snappy- think baring their teeth to anyone who stands up to go to the toilet, simply because there’s been movement in the room. They wouldn’t put them in another room because their dogs are their babies and go literally everywhere with them. I don’t feel confident to ask as it’s been a point of contention before (it is not their house, they are guests, but the host is too timid and peace keeping to put in any sort of request like this). Going off previous years it usually involves a lot of alcohol and there is usually an argument. Two of them smoke quite heavily and usually go out tbf but again if they didn’t nobody would challenge it.

We feel kind of obligated to go because of the hosts who we really enjoy spending time with. They will be disappointed if we don’t go. They are the only relatives we see regularly, the others is usually once a year at Christmas or twice max not through lack of our own trying but they are not that interested generally.

We also want to be fair to both sides of the family, even though we are much (much) more comfortable and familiar with one than the other, not to mention one is on the doorstep so means not having to keep baby up too late or in the car seat for too long.

What to do? If it wasn’t Christmas we wouldn’t feel so torn!

OP posts:
PortiasBiscuit · 24/12/2024 12:31

I think you feel Covid coming on, don’t you? #cough

Boxingdayw · 24/12/2024 12:32

PortiasBiscuit · 24/12/2024 12:31

I think you feel Covid coming on, don’t you? #cough

Is it too obvious :/

OP posts:
neverbeenskiing · 24/12/2024 12:34

I agree, you're looking a bit peaky OP.

If you'd posted a couple of weeks ago I would be advising you to be honest and say that you're not comfortable having your baby around the dogs. But I think you've left it a bit late to have that conversation so just say you're not feeling well and plan ahead next year how you're going to manage the situation.

Boxingdayw · 24/12/2024 12:35

neverbeenskiing · 24/12/2024 12:34

I agree, you're looking a bit peaky OP.

If you'd posted a couple of weeks ago I would be advising you to be honest and say that you're not comfortable having your baby around the dogs. But I think you've left it a bit late to have that conversation so just say you're not feeling well and plan ahead next year how you're going to manage the situation.

DH wonders if we do that do we morally have to avoid the other side of the family too. (They don’t talk and never would/will)

OP posts:
VoyagerOfTheTeenYears · 24/12/2024 12:36

I think you should go. 1 hour’s drive isn’t that bad. Leave early to get the baby home to bed - perfect excuse. The dogs are a bit trickier but maybe ask them to keep them away from the baby so the baby doesn’t upset them or something…

MrsR87 · 24/12/2024 12:36

I’d just be honest and say you don’t feel comfortable having a young baby around two unpredictable dogs.

It’s the other guests’ prerogative to take their dogs if the host allows this but it’s also your prerogative to not go if that’s the case.

PortiasBiscuit · 24/12/2024 12:37

Boxingdayw · 24/12/2024 12:32

Is it too obvious :/

Possibly, but no one can prove anything. Just stay of SM for a bit and then arrange to meet up with your hosts early in the New Year. Take them a nice gift.

Cynic17 · 24/12/2024 12:37

Don't make an excuse, OP. Just be honest and say that you won't be joining. There is nothing "moral" about it. Be polite but assertive.

Mynewnameis · 24/12/2024 12:37

Dont lie or this will keep happening. Say you will visit once dogs dealt with!

SadSandwich · 24/12/2024 12:38

Say you’ve been up all night and actually need to rest.

DemonicCaveMaggot · 24/12/2024 12:38

I am probably precious but I wouldn't be keen on having a one month old in a car seat for one hour. Put that together with 8 adults, some drunk and loud, a row, and people stinking of smoke and I would be giving the event a hard pass.

Can you invite the host over to yours in the new year?

Edited to add
SadSandwich is right, you must be exhausted from being woken up at night. Wouldn't it be better for you to rest at home?

WilfredsPies · 24/12/2024 12:38

I’d go with Norovirus. Some people think Covid is just a cold and would be happy to risk it. Plus you’ll have to lay low for the foreseeable and maybe explain when you tested. If you tell them you’ve got highly contagious sickness & diarrhoea, they seem a lot keener to keep you at a distance. And babies are germballs, always putting things in their mouths. Blame DD.

WilfredsPies · 24/12/2024 12:41

Mynewnameis · 24/12/2024 12:37

Dont lie or this will keep happening. Say you will visit once dogs dealt with!

Actually, this is better advice. DD is only going to get more mobile and more interested in the dogs. Babies and snappy dogs are not a good combination. I think you need to start making a new tradition with your relatives, where you visit separately. Otherwise what will you say next year?

Catza · 24/12/2024 12:42

Boxingdayw · 24/12/2024 12:35

DH wonders if we do that do we morally have to avoid the other side of the family too. (They don’t talk and never would/will)

No, you don't have to "morally" do anything. There will not be any moral police knocking on your door, I promise. Just go and see your other family and it'll be fine.

ilovesooty · 24/12/2024 12:44

PortiasBiscuit · 24/12/2024 12:31

I think you feel Covid coming on, don’t you? #cough

For goodness sake. Surely she can decline without lying?

ilovesooty · 24/12/2024 12:46

MrsR87 · 24/12/2024 12:36

I’d just be honest and say you don’t feel comfortable having a young baby around two unpredictable dogs.

It’s the other guests’ prerogative to take their dogs if the host allows this but it’s also your prerogative to not go if that’s the case.

Exactly. I don't think lying or avoiding the issue is sensible.

ilovesooty · 24/12/2024 12:48

WilfredsPies · 24/12/2024 12:38

I’d go with Norovirus. Some people think Covid is just a cold and would be happy to risk it. Plus you’ll have to lay low for the foreseeable and maybe explain when you tested. If you tell them you’ve got highly contagious sickness & diarrhoea, they seem a lot keener to keep you at a distance. And babies are germballs, always putting things in their mouths. Blame DD.

And what is she going to do when this situation happens again?

ETA sorry, I see you've addressed that.

WilfredsPies · 24/12/2024 12:51

ilovesooty · 24/12/2024 12:48

And what is she going to do when this situation happens again?

ETA sorry, I see you've addressed that.

Edited

Oooh, I don’t know. Perhaps she’ll read my second post (right underneath the first one) in which I acknowledged that a pp gave far more sensible advice than I did?

ETA an apology for being snarky!

Shinytaps · 24/12/2024 12:52

Your baby is one month old? That’s your reason not to go. You’ve just given birth and still knackered so need to rest at home. Also not ideal to do a 2 hour round trip with a tiny baby who will need feeding, etc. One month in, I was boobs out on the couch watching telly.

AnneLovesGilbert · 24/12/2024 12:53

It’s a bit late! I wouldn’t lie, I’d say I don’t feel comfortable around the dogs with the baby but they’re going to be upset because you should have said this ages ago.

PullTheBricksDown · 24/12/2024 12:55

Boxingdayw · 24/12/2024 12:35

DH wonders if we do that do we morally have to avoid the other side of the family too. (They don’t talk and never would/will)

No, morally you're obliged to rearrange for another day soon. Coincidentally that will mean the smoking dog crew won't be there. 🙂

But I agree, better to say the dogs etc are an issue with the baby. Is there any way otherwise you could go early, before they arrive with dogs? Or later?

PlanningTowns · 24/12/2024 12:55

Be honest with them, if they are as kind/timid as you suggest they probably won’t express disappointment to you.

the smoking, dogs and 1 month old baby don’t mix well so for comfort you’ll stay home this year but will see them in the new year?

Ellie1015 · 24/12/2024 13:16

I would see the 2 people who you like from the 26th gathering on 27th or 24th. If you are close you should see them, and i expect they will understand the 26th gathering is not baby friendly.

Absolutely see the other side of the family. They shouldnt miss out because some of the boxing day group arent who you want to spend time with.

JFDIYOLO · 24/12/2024 13:16

Just tell the truth.

It will be uncomfortable for you sitting for an hour in the car only weeks after giving birth.

If you're breastfeeding, it will be uncomfortable in the car and in someone else's home

It will be uncomfortable managing a baby in the car, especially if a poonami hits and you have to change in the car 👃or outside 🥶 or in their home.

And it will be uncomfortable feeling on edge with dogs around a new baby with unfamiliar smells and sounds. We have a chihuahua in the family and they can be very fast and very bitey. Especially when there are several, and pack instinct kicks in. Plus a baby is not much bigger than a chi.

Better to invite your hosts to come for lunch in 2025 and spend more serene time in your own home.

m00rfarm · 24/12/2024 13:21

An hour drive each way is not that far - but don't stay for long. Give the "new baby, not comfortable with dogs, not feeling 100% after birth" stay for an hour and go home. But let the hosts know right now so they don't have to cater for you for the whole day. Next year plan in advance if you don't want to go.