To think a 3:20 finish is absurd?

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It’s mostly mums at the school gates. Because the 3:20 finish worked well at a time when most women stayed at home.

now most women work, which means two parents working, why does school finish ar 3:20?! Yes I know there are after school classes etc but some don’t go on for too long and they also cost.

what actually is the reason why the school day isn’t aligned with a work day (like it is with most private schools!)

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OK and the money for that is coming from where exactly? Do you think the increase in tax revenue from a few hours here and there is going to cover the cost of Universal After School Club? We're fortunate to have free education in this country and the Labour Government is working towards introducing free breakfast clubs. You cannot expect to get the bonuses of Private Education out of a stretched State system.

Men are just as capable as women of picking up their children from school. If you want parents to be able to work, then flexible working policies will be what enables that to happen.

What age? And yes they finish study, we probably even had days when we had random free time in the middle of the day because of the timetable. We were not forced to leave the school though/ the school didn’t close.

That was secondary school in a smallish town and we would either leave the school building or stay, and go home ourselves whenever we were finished. No pick-ups/ school run.

Can’t comment on primary in Germany as didn’t attend there.

Ha, I’d take 3.20pm in a heartbeat. DD is 7 and finishes at 2pm. Last year it was 1.50pm. The year before 12.30pm. 3.20 seems like a dream. Even in P7/year 6 she’ll finish at 3pm three days a week and 2.10pm the other two days – and this is a school with no after school club!

Only time I would be on board with a 5pm finish is probably secondary school. If they started at 10-11am I wonder if attendance would increase and it would allow teachers PPA time in the morning before the kids arrive. So same length day but moved out…..I’m sure there an EU country that does it?!

The kids don't always cope! There was a young lad fell asleep on my train on the way home two weeks ago. It was the 5.30pm train and the stop he should have got off at was about 20 mins in. Conductor woke him up, phoned his dad and then the poor kid who was maybe 10 years old had to stand outside in a strange town, in the snow, by himself and wait for his dad to drive to collect him.

I don't care how much better his education is supposed to be, it's not worth that!

Why be a parent if you want to send your child to a school for 10 hours a day.

thanks! this is interesting to compare

It is absurd, its too late.
In other countries I know small children finish at 12.

THIS.

It’s education for the child not childcare for the parents.

Wouldn’t it be great if one adult could afford to buy a family home and not require two working adult just to scrape by? The root cause isn’t schools, it’s lack of earnings from giant corporations.

Wages haven’t kept up with inflation and hard work isn’t being rewarded.

So are my kids going to school 7pm- 8am so I can do my shift?

I had to switch to nights in order to be able to work at all. That doesn't mean I think schools should have longer hours to facilitate that. Kidd's do long enough at school as it is. And they're only young once.
Schools times aren't the issue here. Childcare options are.

It used to be a lot worse! My Dad said he went home for lunch every day at primary school, it was expected that you would. A small group who weren't able to go home had a packed lunch under a slightly critical teacher's eye. School dinners only kicked in at secondary school.

I don't know. Teachers work load is massive, I go pass my kids school and some of the teachers cars are there on weekends. 3.20pm is an ok finishing time, maybe not ideal if both parents are working but there are options for help after school.

Hang on a minute. This idea of running school until 6pm is to allow women to get back to work (because having a penis stops you from working part time or picking up children).
Has anyone noticed that the majority by a large degree of school staff are women? So if they are all at school until 6pm what about their children?

If this is an idea to help women then it needs to help all women.

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When I was very young I went to school in Spain and we would do 8-12 and then go home 12-3 for lunch/siesta. No school canteen!

When you got a bit older you could do clubs in that time. If your parents worked you used a school space where you could nap/eat/do your homework. But most people didn’t use it and would go home to at least grandma being there.

then 3-5pm you would be back at school.

it was actually great as you could go home and gather your thoughts for a bit. quite often we would have eg science in the morning and then again in the afternoon and you had time to digest what you had been learning and then go back to it in a few hours.

They have much longer holidays

What?? My mum was a foundation age teacher and spent many, many hours working at home too. She didn't complain but the tiredness was visible. I doubt you do several hours work past your finish time.

I think the work day should align with the school day rather than school aligning with work. Definitely need an overhaul. In many jobs we would be more productive if we worked fewer hours and got to see our kids more. Similar to companies testing 4 day weeks, how about 5 shorter days instead?

I agree, I don't think there's a big difference. 10 yr old's private primary is 8.30am to 3.20pm, and private schools tend to have longer holidays than state.

What you are looking for is childcare OP 👌🏻 And for this, you need to pay (or don't have children!)

Schools are there for the benefit of the child's education, not the parents career 👍🏻

HTH 👍🏻

If schools were to accommodate the average work hours of 9-5 (I actually don't know anyone who works these hours) school would have to have them from 8am as most travel to work. And keep them til after 6pm. That's a very long day for teachers and even longer for the kids. And what about holidays? Are you saying schools should be open all year round? Not many people get six weeks off in summer, two plus at Christmas and same again at Easter plus the half terms.

I don't think it does, as standard. DS 2's private primary is 8.30am to 3.20pm. There's a club after school every day, straight afterwards, until 5.45pm, but they cost extra and are different activities, not general school. DS 2 did football and coding last term, for example, just football next term.

D'ya think?
One impact would be no one actually teaching your dc. Unless attracted by the vastly increased salary I suppose.