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AIBU to be surprised that the trains don't run over Christmas?

380 replies

HeritageQuay · 22/12/2024 18:13

So I've been invited by friends to their Christmas lunch in central London. Having been on my own for the last few years, I was delighted to be invited and immediately accepted.

I live about 50 miles outside London and so travel by train is clearly the most sensible option. Accordingly I have been ordering presents etc. on Amazon for delivery to my hosts.

So today I tried to look up train times, only to find that there are no trains at all on Christmas Day and Boxing Day. This came as complete surprise to me, is this a one-off or is it a regular thing?

Not quite sure how to get there now as the last thing I want to do is drive through London with all the issues re Congestion Charge / Ulez / Street parking etc., and in any case I wanted to enjoy a few drinks at Christmas!

How do other people travel at Christmas?

OP posts:
WhateverThen · 22/12/2024 19:03

LetThereBeLove · 22/12/2024 18:58

Just one day out of 365 and moaning MumsNetters are out in force because the trains don't run on Xmas Day. Perhaps station staff and railway workers like to have a day at home with their families too. Shock, horror.

“in force”? About 5 on this thread?

Londonrach1 · 22/12/2024 19:03

So glad they don't so the staff can't spend time with their family. Yabu...

AlexisP90 · 22/12/2024 19:04

Nourishinghandcream · 22/12/2024 18:18

Has been the case for as long as I can remember.

Don't they do essential maintenance over the break?

They do. My dad was a track engineer bsck in the day and christmas day was his busiest day.

Start at 4am, home by about 2pm. Quadruple pay. One day paid for christmas for our family.

Kensingswell · 22/12/2024 19:04

I lived in London for all of the 90's and never knew this. I just thought we got taxi's to work on Boxing Day because the trains had a late start.

Where I live no shops or petrol stations or restaurants open at Christmas so the fact that newsagents in London were open on Christmas day means that I thought services would also be running.

I think you are not being unreasonable OP

Bjorkdidit · 22/12/2024 19:06

LetThereBeLove · 22/12/2024 18:58

Just one day out of 365 and moaning MumsNetters are out in force because the trains don't run on Xmas Day. Perhaps station staff and railway workers like to have a day at home with their families too. Shock, horror.

But emergency services and utilities, broadcasting etc all keep running on Christmas day, and some of them need trains to get to work.

You'd not be happy if A&E was unstaffed, you had no electricity, gas or water and there was no TV/radio/internet on Christmas Day.

Even if the OP stayed in a hotel, there'd need to be people there running it and they'd need to get to work.

Just because office workers and retail/leisure and some hospitality workers get to have 'a day at home with their families' doesn't mean that everyone is off work.

RockOrAHardplace · 22/12/2024 19:06

HeritageQuay · 22/12/2024 18:25

Simply because people clearly want to travel at that time, and successive governments have been trying to persuade you to give up your car and use public transport.

Public transport is manned by people, people who also want Christmas off to spend with their families, it has always been the same. I am unable to drive for health reasons and I have always managed to work something out.

You either need to pay extortionate taxi prices, drive and/or arrange to stay over.

MumblesParty · 22/12/2024 19:06

OliviaFlaversham · 22/12/2024 19:00

Even in Christian countries, health, care, hospitality, emergency service workers etc still have to work and get to work.

I know. I’m a doctor so I’ve worked many Christmas days. I either drove or walked.

soupfiend · 22/12/2024 19:07

LetThereBeLove · 22/12/2024 18:58

Just one day out of 365 and moaning MumsNetters are out in force because the trains don't run on Xmas Day. Perhaps station staff and railway workers like to have a day at home with their families too. Shock, horror.

Thats nice, unlike carers, hospital staff, shop staff (yes there are shops open on xmas day), emergency workers, public service workers

Public transport runs at easter, there is no need for it to shut down on xmas day and barely operate on boxing day

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 22/12/2024 19:07

This post sounds like a letter to Viz

Spaceid · 22/12/2024 19:09

When do you think they should do track maintenance work? As someone who has had to work over Christmas to do this work (and Easter), I can’t think of a better time to do it!

StarDolphins · 22/12/2024 19:10

Perfectly reasonable to expect public transport to run op. I agree too. I think trains should run every day and at Christmas especially so. My elderly neighbour is going to visit her husband in a care home & it’s costing £76 in a taxi.

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 19:10

You can't do a lot on christmas day. A lot if things are closed.

soupfiend · 22/12/2024 19:11

Spaceid · 22/12/2024 19:09

When do you think they should do track maintenance work? As someone who has had to work over Christmas to do this work (and Easter), I can’t think of a better time to do it!

Does track maintenance only occur on one day of the year then? I must have impagined all the rail replacement services that are seemingly constant.

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 19:11

I suppose they wouldn't be able to get enough train staff to agree to work on christmas day.

Spaceid · 22/12/2024 19:11

Bjorkdidit · 22/12/2024 19:06

But emergency services and utilities, broadcasting etc all keep running on Christmas day, and some of them need trains to get to work.

You'd not be happy if A&E was unstaffed, you had no electricity, gas or water and there was no TV/radio/internet on Christmas Day.

Even if the OP stayed in a hotel, there'd need to be people there running it and they'd need to get to work.

Just because office workers and retail/leisure and some hospitality workers get to have 'a day at home with their families' doesn't mean that everyone is off work.

But the lines need maintaining and therefore they do work over Christmas. You can’t do line maintenance on a bust commuting day.

LetThereBeLove · 22/12/2024 19:11

KindLemur · 22/12/2024 18:59

I don’t get the ‘staff need to have Christmas too’ thing… I grew up with a paramedic dad and nurse mum and they just juggled Christmas and working and made it ok, not to mention the extra pay over the Xmas period which sweetened the deal. A lot of people woukd be willing to work Xmas day or Boxing Day or whatever for more money. I used to work Xmas day behind the bar in a local pub for a wedge of cash and loved it, as a student !

That's just you but other people do want that day with their families.

SquirmOfEels · 22/12/2024 19:11

Public transport ceased in London for Christmas surprisingly recently - in the 1970s.

But that is 50 years ago, so I would have expected most people to have noticed by now.

Taxis/minicabs/ubers/Boris bikes and similar are likely be reasonably available, for those who need to get around, whether that's visiting for fun or going to work.

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 22/12/2024 19:12

HeritageQuay · 22/12/2024 18:13

So I've been invited by friends to their Christmas lunch in central London. Having been on my own for the last few years, I was delighted to be invited and immediately accepted.

I live about 50 miles outside London and so travel by train is clearly the most sensible option. Accordingly I have been ordering presents etc. on Amazon for delivery to my hosts.

So today I tried to look up train times, only to find that there are no trains at all on Christmas Day and Boxing Day. This came as complete surprise to me, is this a one-off or is it a regular thing?

Not quite sure how to get there now as the last thing I want to do is drive through London with all the issues re Congestion Charge / Ulez / Street parking etc., and in any case I wanted to enjoy a few drinks at Christmas!

How do other people travel at Christmas?

YABU to just now be realising that there's no trains /public transport on Christmas Day and Boxing Day.
I'm a non driver and non existent public transport on those days has been a thing since forever!

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 22/12/2024 19:12

Nurses have to work and get paid a damned site less.

JenniferBooth · 22/12/2024 19:12

I know this is about trains but the housing estate ive been living on for thirty years has never even had a Sunday bus service let alone a bank holiday one

Cattyisbatty · 22/12/2024 19:12

There's no congestion charge on Xmas day. I think ULEZ is 24/7 365 days a year,
I've lived in London all my life and there's never been transport on Christmas Day either.

Longma · 22/12/2024 19:12

I've not known any local public transport to run on Christmas Day.
I have vague memories of the odd bus in Boxing Day, but a severely restricted number.

AlexisP90 · 22/12/2024 19:12

AlexisP90 · 22/12/2024 19:04

They do. My dad was a track engineer bsck in the day and christmas day was his busiest day.

Start at 4am, home by about 2pm. Quadruple pay. One day paid for christmas for our family.

Also I do think YABU. Aside from this being the best time to do this maintenance it's also one day.

People like my dad could earn enough money to pay for his familys christmas and in the 90s/earl 00s that meant a lot - especially with 4 kids!

Not everything stops. Coaches run, taxis run.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to pay a little more to travel... JUST for 1 day...

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 22/12/2024 19:12

Airbnb for 2 nights?

HolyPeaches · 22/12/2024 19:13

How do other people travel at Christmas?

Drive.

If can’t drive then plan ahead and use public transport on the days they are operating.

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